Funny events in anti-woke world

[thebobmaster]

Peacetime degeneracy also makes it so that quality of life will decrease.... when we are all dead from climate change.

...How the FUCK would a long war help with climate change? Look...I'm going to get slightly personal here. You claim most of us "didn't even try" to get into the military. First off, that's already faulty logic to dismiss anyone's criticism. After all, have you ever had a problem with a meal in a restaurant? Well, have you ever tried to become a chef? No? Then what right do you have to comment on the meal when you couldn't even cook it yourself?

That aside, I have tried to enlist. Non-combat position, so may not count in your mind, and I didn't make it through basic training due to depression kicking in. One of my drill sergeants was struggling with PTSD due to losing several friends in tours of Iraq. I can't help but wonder how many of those friends he would have lost if Iraq had been finished in even half the time, let alone the actual "planned" completion time. Long wars don't help anyone other than people who look from the outside and don't have to make sacrifices themselves. If your idea of an ideal general is Douglas MacArthur, you may want to readjust your optics, and consider that war is not a game, moving people on a board for the betterment of the world. It's ugly, brutal, and extending it just makes things worse all around. I'd like you to walk up to someone who actually served in a war zone and tell them you think wars/engagements should take even longer to make sure the "wrong" side is punished. See what responses you get.

 

[Silvanus]

Peacetime degeneracy also makes it so that quality of life will decrease.... when we are all dead from climate change.

OK. But war exacerbates climate change. So what's your point?

This is all just aimless, callous nonsense.

 

[Gergar12]

OK. But war exacerbates climate change. So what's your point?

This is all just aimless, callous nonsense.

...How the FUCK would a long war help with climate change? Look...I'm going to get slightly personal here. You claim most of us "didn't even try" to get into the military. First off, that's already faulty logic to dismiss anyone's criticism. After all, have you ever had a problem with a meal in a restaurant? Well, have you ever tried to become a chef? No? Then what right do you have to comment on the meal when you couldn't even cook it yourself?

That aside, I have tried to enlist. Non-combat position, so may not count in your mind, and I didn't make it through basic training due to depression kicking in. One of my drill sergeants was struggling with PTSD due to losing several friends in tours of Iraq. I can't help but wonder how many of those friends he would have lost if Iraq had been finished in even half the time, let alone the actual "planned" completion time. Long wars don't help anyone other than people who look from the outside and don't have to make sacrifices themselves. If your idea of an ideal general is Douglas MacArthur, you may want to readjust your optics, and consider that war is not a game, moving people on a board for the betterment of the world. It's ugly, brutal, and extending it just makes things worse all around. I'd like you to walk up to someone who actually served in a war zone and tell them you think wars/engagements should take even longer to make sure the "wrong" side is punished. See what responses you get.

In peace-time technological growth slows, and people start inventing useless bullshit like Facebook/META's VR glasses when it could have gone to heavy industry, and mass production. 100 billion towards that could have gone into making EVs, and emerging technologies like anti-climate change technologies. Even the video games, and bread and circuses are getting degraded. Also none of you guys replied that nationalization of certain industries in wartime culturally ramps up production whereas in peacetime people slack off on government salaries.

And my point was ins respond to a certain commenter said I shouldn't have an opinion because I didn't serve, that's my reply is that I tried. So it's aimed towards that person, it was not meant to offend it was meant to counterpoint it.

Also it's not about punishing people, it's about the cost benefit analysis of getting more than you put into an effort to increase national power that could work. Also if the US doesn't for moral reasons be geopolitically aggressive, is averse to combat losses, and etc. Than Russia, and China who have less moral qualms about doing so will win, and in doing so that would mean the quality of life for Americans, and many allies of America like Japan will decrease. So it's cost benefit analysis. And what are you complaining to me about, go complain to Moscow, Beijing, or even Tehran who will beat little girls to maintain and expand cultural supremacy in the middle east in the form of geopolitical influence expansionism. If they act moral, we act moral depending on the cost benefit analysis.

Edit: Long wars are a tool like any other, Russia and China can fight them so can we. Or else it's unilateral disarmament.

Edit2: My ideal general is the one that wins wars, and my ideal president are Jefferson, and Polk.

Edit3: In theory drones could make long wars worth it if they are the ones who do most of the fighting for Americans.

 

[bluegate]

I'd like to think that inventions come easier when not having to run to bomb shelters every other day.

 

[Silvanus]

SNIP

I'm not entertaining this "might makes right" feudal tripe anymore. If you want to live in a world in which you're in greater risk of death and suffering, all in some vain hope of spurring hypothetical "innovation" that you speculate cannot happen in peacetime, then I only hope you never attain a modicum of power, because you would immediately abuse it to harm others.

 

[Gergar12]

I'm not entertaining this "might makes right" feudal tripe anymore. If you want to live in a world in which you're in greater risk of death and suffering, all in some vain hope of spurring hypothetical "innovation" that you speculate cannot happen in peacetime, then I only hope you never attain a modicum of power, because you would immediately abuse it to harm others.

I am a product of my environment, those ideas didn't come from me. Look at your country, it's a security state because local might makes right occurs. If you let citizens have too many freedoms, they could protest, and have a non-zero chance of upstaging the powers that be. There are more states with declining democracies than others, people are getting overworked, I worked 13 hours one day on a homework assignment(Master's degree that's online), an internship, and at a full-time job. And that will become the norm, thanks to opportunity cost I therefore cannot protest the Trump admin without economically harming myself.

My ideas were alive when I was born (Unless I am a AI like you said), and they will be alive after I die, and you die because that's the pattern of human history. Power begets power, and might makes right is the de-facto rule. Is it shitty for an island whose dependent on trade to sustain it's economic power sure, but it;'s eventual.

But the aftermath for the survivors will be great, provided there is any.

I'd like to think that inventions come easier when not having to run to bomb shelters every other day.

Still better than the Metaverse.

 

[Silvanus]

I am a product of my environment, those ideas didn't come from me. Look at your country, it's a security state because local might makes right occurs. If you let citizens have too many freedoms, they could protest, and have a non-zero chance of upstaging the powers that be. There are more states with declining democracies than others, people are getting overworked, I worked 13 hours one day on a homework assignment(Master's degree that's online), an internship, and at a full-time job. And that will become the norm, thanks to opportunity cost I therefore cannot protest the Trump admin without economically harming myself.

This is such a confused mess of a paragraph, I can't really make out what point you're trying to make. Security forces exist, so therefore it's fine for powerful countries to invade and conquer others? You're enormously overworked, so therefore... something? What?

My ideas were alive when I was born (Unless I am a AI like you said), and they will be alive after I die, and you die because that's the pattern of human history.

Yes, shitty "I'm stronger than you so I can take what you have, unga bunga" attitudes are indeed very old. That's not a point in their favour. So are viruses.

But the aftermath for the survivors will be great, provided there is any.

"Great" in what way? What is the purpose of attaining power, if you just use it to heap endless suffering in the pursuit of more power?

The aftermath of your envisioned world would be a burnt-out husk, devoid of kindness or art, ruled by thugs. A hellscape.

 

[Gergar12]

This is such a confused mess of a paragraph, I can't really make out what point you're trying to make. Security forces exist, so therefore it's fine for powerful countries to invade and conquer others? You're enormously overworked, so therefore... something? What?



Yes, shitty "I'm stronger than you so I can take what you have, unga bunga" attitudes are indeed very old. That's not a point in their favour. So are viruses.



"Great" in what way? What is the purpose of attaining power, if you just use it to heap endless suffering in the pursuit of more power?

The aftermath of your envisioned world would be a burnt-out husk, devoid of kindness or art, ruled by thugs. A hellscape.

Viruses have their uses in science, and so does war in politics. Almost everyone on this forum and Reddit is boring, Trump bad, Trump evil, Israel bad, Israel evil. Without supporting evidence or an explanation, I try to understand why they do what they do, and unlike useful idiots in America, and it's 'Allies', I understand why Russia, China, and Iran fight. They like Trump do it poorly but I understand. Every single non-allied actor in international politics is a non-zero percentage chance at a regime chance in their countries, and they have their own local audiences to compete with who also follow the same logic. Most of you guys don't understand this, and yell slogans by Code Pink, the DSA, and liberals without understanding your manipulated one way or the other by pro-USA, and nowadays anti-US actors.

The language of force is the music of international relations, there is no police in international relations only mob rule or coalitions, and oftentimes there isn't even that.

Plus even morally which I detest this logic since life/society/humanity based institutions(AKA most of the world) hasn't treat me fairly as someone with my conditions will have worse life outcomes than neurotypicals so I don't want to treat it fairly. Iran was given every chance to enter the world community provided they don't pursue after nuclear weapons instead they killed hundreds of UN sanctioned Marines in Lebanon, got Jimmy Carter the nicest 'modern' US president out of office over petty historical grievances that their population used to pacify their populations who were too smart to be manipulated before the idiots in Tel Aviv bombed a oil processing plant and rained acid rain on Tehran and American Warplanes blew up a school based on faulty intel or pettiness. They/Javad also had yelling matchs with Obama officals who was atleast nicer than Bush, and all other previous presidents. The Americans elite are sick of iranian elite stubborness so they had to bomb Iran at their lowest moment*. The enemy gets a vote. Also what has pursing nuclear weapons, missiles, and proxies done for Iran, their economy sucks, right now they barely have electrcity for a fraction of the day. And all for what? To own the liberals in Washington? To spread thier religion while bombing arab countries? To go to a heavon that isn't 100% likely to exist on a guess.

 

[Seanchaidh]

 

[Dirty Hipsters]

I am a product of my environment, those ideas didn't come from me. Look at your country, it's a security state because local might makes right occurs. If you let citizens have too many freedoms, they could protest, and have a non-zero chance of upstaging the powers that be. There are more states with declining democracies than others, people are getting overworked, I worked 13 hours one day on a homework assignment(Master's degree that's online), an internship, and at a full-time job. And that will become the norm, thanks to opportunity cost I therefore cannot protest the Trump admin without economically harming myself.

My ideas were alive when I was born (Unless I am a AI like you said), and they will be alive after I die, and you die because that's the pattern of human history. Power begets power, and might makes right is the de-facto rule. Is it shitty for an island whose dependent on trade to sustain it's economic power sure, but it;'s eventual.

But the aftermath for the survivors will be great, provided there is any.



Still better than the Metaverse.

I have no idea what you're even trying to say here. Late stage capitalism go brrrrr so long war is the answer because...reasons?

We need to have long wars so that...people don't complain and protest...?

What the fuck are you even on about?

You've written nonsense because your position is dumb and indefensible.

 

[Seanchaidh]

In peace-time technological growth slows, and people start inventing useless bullshit like Facebook/META's VR glasses when it could have gone to heavy industry, and mass production.

There are much better ways to solve this problem (if it's even a problem). Prioritizing the capacity to fight war is a very particular thing, but what you want seems quite a bit less particular than that.

 

[Satinavian]

Plus even morally which I detest this logic since life/society/humanity based institutions(AKA most of the world) hasn't treat me fairly as someone with my conditions will have worse life outcomes than neurotypicals so I don't want to treat it fairly.

Oh, so you are just contrarian to common sense out of some grudges and to vent ? Lashing out against the world because you have a difficult time ? Well, that makes at least more sense, misguided as it is.

Iran was given every chance to enter the world community provided they don't pursue after nuclear weapons

And they took it. Remember the Iran deal ? The one that worked until Trump blew it up ?

Also what has pursing nuclear weapons, missiles, and proxies done for Iran, their economy sucks, right now they barely have electrcity for a fraction of the day.

Nuclear weapons ? They probably never actually pusued it but used the enrichment as leverage in negotiation.
Missiles ? They are proving to be the only credible defense again and again, including this time. Iran absolutely needs the missiles as long as Israel and the US can bomb them.
Proxies ? Allies are great. Making you all stronger together.

 

[Agema]

In peace-time technological growth slows,

No it doesn't.

Technological growth simply relates to R&D effort and funding. Wars may increase R&D funding because governments pour resources into R&D - but that R&D is focused towards war. However, wars also may harm technological growth, because even if war-related R&D increases, investment into all sorts of other R&D declines by a greater amount. Plus, once the war is over, many war technologies may be of much more limited value to a peacetime economy than peacetime technologies would be.

You've written nonsense because your position is dumb and indefensible.

I think he's possibly having a bipolar manic phase.

 

[tstorm823]

"Blackout" is a variation of "drunk", which violates the policy on excessive drinking content. Try searching "power outage" instead.

Edit: I clicked the tweet and found out it's even dumber, kids were doing a "blackout challenge" where they try to strangle themselves to unconciousness, so that got banned after children died. The point remains the same, but you can't even be bothered to read the comments before linking a tweet.

 

[Hades]

..How the FUCK would a long war help with climate change

There is actually historical precedent for this. Apparently Ghengis Khan killed so many people polution levels dropped massively because there were so few people left to go polute things.

Though of course wars no longer being fought with spear and bows means the end result will be different these days.

 

[Seanchaidh]

"Blackout" is a variation of "drunk", which violates the policy on excessive drinking content. Try searching "power outage" instead.

Edit: I clicked the tweet and found out it's even dumber, kids were doing a "blackout challenge" where they try to strangle themselves to unconciousness, so that got banned after children died. The point remains the same, but you can't even be bothered to read the comments before linking a tweet.

i did not read all of the comments. of which there are many. but you're right, both of those are dumb reasons to censor such a search.

 

[tstorm823]

i did not read all of the comments. of which there are many. but you're right, both of those are dumb reasons to censor such a search.

It takes a bold man to openly declare that he thinks it more important that people can use one specific slang for power outages than it is to discourage children from strangling themselves on social media.

It takes a fool to think making that claim will make us forget he was just spreading a conspiracy theory that the US government was suppressing coverage of Cuba on TikTok.

 

[XsjadoBlayde]

Is a bit frustrating seeing ppl on some areas of the left fall for Carlson's and Candace's bullshit, though seems mostly online so who knows how astroturfed that shit is - object permanence plz!

(I do not endorse every single part of every single video, in case there's some shit in here I forgot about lol)


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[Seanchaidh]

It takes a fool to think making that claim will make us forget he was just spreading a conspiracy theory that the US government was suppressing coverage of Cuba on TikTok.

The person who posted that has some experience with being punished in various ways for his political advocacy, or having his videos deleted by TikTok after changes to their guidelines that for some strange reason had the effect of suppressing coverage of Gaza.

https://ohiocapitaljournal.com/2025/09/19/aclu-of-ohio-sues-ohio-state-university-for-expelling-student-over-series-of-israel-palestine-videos/

Youtube Restores Pro-Palestinian US Activist’s Account After Backlash

YouTube, pro-Palestinian, video-sharing, shutdow

www.bernama.com

And the fact that TikTok has been trying to influence politics via censorship is not all that controversial at this point, even if they might have plausible deniability in some cases. https://middle-east-online.com/en/us-ownership-tiktok-leads-bans-palestinian-influencers-journalists

 

[Gergar12]

No it doesn't.

Technological growth simply relates to R&D effort and funding. Wars may increase R&D funding because governments pour resources into R&D - but that R&D is focused towards war. However, wars also may harm technological growth, because even if war-related R&D increases, investment into all sorts of other R&D declines by a greater amount. Plus, once the war is over, many war technologies may be of much more limited value to a peacetime economy than peacetime technologies would be.



I think he's possibly having a bipolar manic phase.

That may be true I have a cold, which may increase stress on my body, but might makes right still holds as sound logic. Also imagine if we could get a 1950s after a war without the racism, and sexism, that's my logic.

There are much better ways to solve this problem (if it's even a problem). Prioritizing the capacity to fight war is a very particular thing, but what you want seems quite a bit less particular than that.

Read above.

Oh, so you are just contrarian to common sense out of some grudges and to vent ? Lashing out against the world because you have a difficult time ? Well, that makes at least more sense, misguided as it is.

And they took it. Remember the Iran deal ? The one that worked until Trump blew it up ?

Nuclear weapons ? They probably never actually pusued it but used the enrichment as leverage in negotiation.
Missiles ? They are proving to be the only credible defense again and again, including this time. Iran absolutely needs the missiles as long as Israel and the US can bomb them.
Proxies ? Allies are great. Making you all stronger together.

So I personally like the Iran Deal, but it pissed off half of Washington, their logic is why do you basically have to paid the Iranians to do what 100+ countries who have signed the Nuclear non-proliferation act, AND put up with their proxies. That's not even mentioning Israel, and the Saudis hating it/our allies in the region not agreeing behind closed doors. Not to say I agree with than Senator Schumer, and the republicans but that was their logic.

I have no idea what you're even trying to say here. Late stage capitalism go brrrrr so long war is the answer because...reasons?

We need to have long wars so that...people don't complain and protest...?

What the fuck are you even on about?

You've written nonsense because your position is dumb and indefensible.

Don't attack me I am not in charge, I am just stating what I believe to be American elite consensus which isn't much different from say Russian, or Chinese elite consensus.

The weakness in that consensus in all countries is that by elites being lazy forcing other people to work for them, and only socializing they lose domain knowledge skills like fighting wars, tech skills etc.

There are rich people who want to put shock and or bomb collars on security personnel, want armed robots, likely human cloning with docile humans, but they will lose because they can't think tactically relative to their security personnel.

That said I do it funny, and don't know why they don't just fund better neuroscience, bio-medical engineering, radical life extension so they can truly be the gods they try to be.