Oh sweet baby Jesus no, burn AI to the ground, humanity can't be trusted with it

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Thaluikhain

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Let's also consider other recent events. Making AI is incredibly expensive and requires huge amounts of investment, to support datacentres that use vast amounts of power. Power from electricity that is still largely generated by fossil fuels.

What's happened to the price of oil and gas recently? Oh dear.
That's a good point, but it looks like the trend had started before the latest kerfuffle.
 

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That's a good point, but it looks like the trend had started before the latest kerfuffle.
Definitely.

OpenAI still seems to want an IPO this year. This is... interesting for a company with finances so deep in the red. I doubt it's got a significant chance of making a profit, but it needs to look as minimally bad as possible before it goes public - dump the most cost-wasteful elements like Sora and try to monetise the most it can of what's left. That's probably why the adult content chatbot has gone as well: porn has got to be a good earner, but it's a really bad look for a public company.

I'm guessing here that these specialist AI corporations have realised that venture capital and dodgy circular trading with nVidia is fast running out of rope, so they need to go onto the open market and hope that everyday shareholders are willing to subsidise their insane losses instead.

I don't know I'd want my pension in such a high risk asset, and I can definitely imagine how venture capitalists may be desperate to dump that risk on the wider market (and recoup their investment with massive profit).
 

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Even Take-Two can't make everything AI, because it's a waste of time, resources, and people who want to make actual games. They should have not bothered in the first place.

 
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Comfortable shock collars, for herding cattle. Yes indeed
Yeah, essentially an "invisible fence" for cows. And somehow it's supposed to herd them? How is that going to work? Also:

More efficient farming could eventually translate to more stable food prices for consumers, though that connection is still playing out.
Yet another "Step 2: ???" financial scheme.
 
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Yeah, essentially an "invisible fence" for cows. And somehow it's supposed to herd them? How is that going to work? Also:



Yet another "Step 2: ???" financial scheme.
Among the various ways Thiel is an insane misantropic tech evangelist, is being one of those wealthy doomsday preppers looking into ways to protect their bunker and assets from the rabble when the apocalypse comes, and also ensure servant loyalty.
 
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Yeah, essentially an "invisible fence" for cows. And somehow it's supposed to herd them? How is that going to work?
"Vibrations and audio cues", apparently. Which sounds to me like someone's got to train the cattle to respond correctly to the vibrations and audio cues. This feels like there's a lot to go wrong. And I cannot help but feel that, as Chimpzy says, there's a painful electric shock device as enforcement somewhere in there.

Also, I suspect for a number of reasons that farmers might still need fences anyway, so now they can pay for fences AND expensive collars.
 
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One imagines one's cows wandering loose after an update bricks your expensive AI fence, and other farmers using wire fences having a good laugh at one's expense.

Oh, wait, could you hack into the system, and use the vibrations/audio cues to make the cattle leave the area? Cyberpunk cattle rustling?
 
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Considering a majority of farmers don't even want to bother with AI tech companies constantly trying to buy their land, a majority of them are not gonna even bother touching this.


 
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One imagines one's cows wandering loose after an update bricks your expensive AI fence, and other farmers using wire fences having a good laugh at one's expense.
Or the company goes bankrupt, and bricks all the collars permanently.
 

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People have lost sight of what an amazing accomplishment LLMs are. When I first used GPT-3, I had a moment of wonder: a computer is responding intelligently to natural language in natural language.

And I was using the original Curie/Davinci model variants that weren’t even instruction tuned - they functioned primarily as autocomplete. These models fundamentally changed how I thought about technology from that point onwards.

If we keep up our guard and only look for failures, we can lose track of how amazing the technology is, and how striking its pace of improvement has been. Capabilities acceleration that would be stupefyingly fast in other fields is often brushed off.

Just this week a model that is arguably superintelligent at computer security research (and likely many other tasks) has been announced, a difficult-to-fathom development that many people are a bit dull to. We are currently possibly in something that looks like a singularity - AI models accelerating AI development - and it hasn't been remarked on widely outside of specialist press.

Have people lost their sense of how ridiculous this is? Or am I mistaken? It sometimes feels like in trying to slot LLMs in the same bucket as a crypto token or new phone, we dramatically undersell their significance. For good or for bad.

Dude has beyond lost it. Just another foolish old biatch who wants to force their false reality on everyone else.
 
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Dude has beyond lost it. Just another foolish old biatch who wants to force their false reality on everyone else.
"LLMs are great! Just stop worrying whether you'll still have a job next year!"

I suppose I did read an economist say that the idea of long-term mass employment due to AI is not possible. If unemployment reaches 20-30%, our societies will probably collapse - whether catastrophically, or through a more constructive radical transformation into a new and sustainable form.

But the more likely option is that once enough people become unemployed, someone with money and an idea is going to find a way to employ them in the hope it generates profit. The issue is what the big new mode of employment will be... and whether the pay is any good. Because assuredly, if there is a major shift from middle-high paying jobs to low, it's a huge societal shift and the ramifications will be huge. We're still democracies (for the moment at least, although I fear there are forces working on that as we speak) and I have to suspect a major shift in the dynamics of wealth and income distribution would lead to major policy changes.
 

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The brand used to have quite a lot of goodwill in the shoe community. Even considered buying a pair myself a few years ago. I can't believe with how much AI bullshit already in the market, people think their stock is worth owning.
All a company has to do is just say "AI" and investors will start throwing money.

Still, I can't wait to see AI-powered shoes on the market, that'll be a laugh riot
 
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I can see this company crashing in a few years when that bubble bursts. Hope it was worth it you dumb fucks.
To be fair, they've already crashed. They may as well pivot crazily, because they already failed to make it big as a shoe company.
 
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