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TotK initial dev meetings were probably like,

“Soooo, Zelda…what number are we one again?”

“Twenty, I think?”

“Wow a milestone entry. Well, what can we do differently this time?”

“…Have we talked to the engineers in the basement yet?”
 
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Like the Metal Gear Solid 3 remake but worse, it will be jarring to see the Ocarina remake's high level of (ugly) detail plastered over the same old simplistic maps. The answer is to significantly alter the levels, and at that point it's wiser to make a new game that gets more players excited.

But they don't want to make a new 3D game that doesn't forsake the series' grand sense of adventure for the Breath of the Wild sandbox formula that has no sense of urgency. I like Breath and Tears, but their campaigns are pretty poor. The worst I ever beat in this series. You can't design a good campaign if Link has all the main abilities from the start (including climbing most walls and flying up into the air) and the world is too massive to return to old secrets with new items. Players say they want the big open world with the good dungeons and progression of the old games, not realizing that the two are incompatible.
 

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I may not begin to it but I am more than happy for the fans and you won't see me complain.


I can already tell this remake is a testing ground for whatever their next new mainline game is going to be. That's how it usually works and a strategy I noticed with Capcom.
It is using a new engine that Star Fox Switch 2 Remake is using.

Its no Unreal Engine 5 or 4
 
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Like the Metal Gear Solid 3 remake but worse, it will be jarring to see the Ocarina remake's high level of (ugly) detail plastered over the same old simplistic maps. The answer is to significantly alter the levels, and at that point it's wiser to make a new game that gets more players excited.
We literally only just saw one glimpse of Link in his enclosed room. And I have a feeling it is going to be an expanded on Remake ala Resident Evil 2 or Final Fantasy 7.
 
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We literally only just saw one glimpse of Link in his enclosed room. And I have a feeling it is going to be an expanded on Remake ala Resident Evil 2 or Final Fantasy 7.
When I saw this remake get announced, I expected to see the internet blow up they way FF7's announcement in 2015 did. Ocarina of Time is supposedly the GOAT of all Zelda games right, and so many peoples favorite game ever.

Yet i have seen more people reluctant about it than anything else. I don't really understand why, I wanted people to get a remake for a game they loved the way I am thrilled about FF7's. But that's not the case and I don't get it.
 

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We literally only just saw one glimpse of Link in his enclosed room. And I have a feeling it is going to be an expanded on Remake ala Resident Evil 2 or Final Fantasy 7.
I'm not sure. Nintendo doesn't usually do those. Their remakes tend to stick very close to the original. The closest thing to that they ever made was Mario 64 DS and that feels kinda like the exception that proves the rule.

When I saw this remake get announced, I expected to see the internet blow up they way FF7's announcement in 2015 did. Ocarina of Time is supposedly the GOAT of all Zelda games right, and so many peoples favorite game ever.

Yet i have seen more people reluctant about it than anything else. I don't really understand why, I wanted people to get a remake for a game they loved the way I am thrilled about FF7's. But that's not the case and I don't get it.
Well, it's pretty much the Citizen Kane of gaming... in that it's a really great and innovative work that holds up very well and still should be enjoyed by everyone who sincerely loves the medium. But much like I don't think Citizen Kane is the best movie ever made or even the best Orson Welles movie, I don't think OoT is the best game ever made, nor even the best Zelda game. And it hasn't been since the moment Majoras Mask came out. (Which, incidentally, might actually be the best game ever made, but that's personal bias speaking here)

I think, and everyone's free to disagree, Ocarina does nothing some of the subsequent Zelda's don't to better. With Twilight Princess just pretty much being a better OoT.

Unless Nintendo does something really interesting and weird with it (I dunno, add the Light Temple, make the Triforce an actual item, let you unfreeze Zoras domain, really play into the myths that have formed around it.) it seems like it would be a waste to make this instead of a new Zelda. And like I said, Nintendo usually doesn't stray far off the beaten path when they remake a game. So there's a decent chance all this is gonna have are modernized graphics and controls, and a couple of quality of life features. And they already did that the last time they remade it, for the 3DS.
 
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So there's a decent chance all this is gonna have are modernized graphics and controls, and a couple of quality of life features. And they already did that the last time they remade it, for the 3DS.
I forgot you already got a 3DS remake of this. Maybe I wont be as excited when Final Fantasy 7 Remake Remaking comes out in 2075.....actually who the fuck am i kidding.
 

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I'm not sure. Nintendo doesn't usually do those. Their remakes tend to stick very close to the original. The closest thing to that they ever made was Mario 64 DS and that feels kinda like the exception that proves the rule.



Well, it's pretty much the Citizen Kane of gaming... in that it's a really great and innovative work that holds up very well and still should be enjoyed by everyone who sincerely loves the medium. But much like I don't think Citizen Kane is the best movie ever made or even the best Orson Welles movie, I don't think OoT is the best game ever made, nor even the best Zelda game. And it hasn't been since the moment Majoras Mask came out. (Which, incidentally, might be the best game ever made but that's personal bias speaking here)

I think, and everyone's free to disagree, Ocarina does nothing some of the subsequent Zelda's don't to better. With Twilight Princess just pretty much being a better OoT.

Unless Nintendo does something really interesting and weird with it (I dunno, add the Light Temple, make the Triforce an actual item, let you unfreeze Zoras domain, really play into the myths that have formed around it.) it seems like it would be a waste to make this instead of a new Zelda. And like I said, Nintendo usually doesn't stray far off the beaten path when they remake a game. So there's a decent chance all this is gonna have are modernized graphics and controls, and a couple of quality of life features. And they already did that the last time they remade it, for the 3DS.
I'd say closer to RE 2 Remake then, the overall structure of the game was still similar to the original game
 
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I forgot you already got a 3DS remake of this. Maybe I wont be as excited when Final Fantasy 7 Remake Remaking comes out in 2075.....actually who the fuck am i kidding.
The one obvious thing I'm gonna love with this remake. The music re-done and orchestrated music

And being able to play with the Ocarina again. Hero of Time is the best Link because he can play the tunes.
 

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I'd say closer to RE 2 Remake then, the overall structure of the game was still similar to the original game
If there's any remake that Nintendo should be modelling theirs on, it's that one. They probably won't though because Nintendo, for better or worse, generally do their own thing even when they're chasing a trend. Worked for Breath of the Wild, so it definitely could work for OOTR.

I don't even own a Switch 2, so I'm just gonna be keeping an eye on it from a distance.
 
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When I saw this remake get announced, I expected to see the internet blow up they way FF7's announcement in 2015 did. Ocarina of Time is supposedly the GOAT of all Zelda games right, and so many peoples favorite game ever.

Yet i have seen more people reluctant about it than anything else. I don't really understand why, I wanted people to get a remake for a game they loved the way I am thrilled about FF7's. But that's not the case and I don't get it.

Well quite a few of the comments still seem grateful, although it seems to have been kinda shadow dropped and then they go and remove info the fans went digging for. Typical draconian Nintendo. With FF7 Remake, Sony really teased and built up that nut for years before it exploded all over the fanbase.
 
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Well quite a few of the comments still seem grateful, although it seems to have been kinda shadow dropped and then they go and remove info the fans went digging for. Typical draconian Nintendo. With FF7 Remake, Sony really teased and built up that nut for years before it exploded all over the fanbase.
Ever since that PS3 Tech Demo using Final Fantasy 7 as an example, along with the Advent Children movie.


Nintendo Gamecube getting Remakes of Resident Evil 1 and Metal Gear Solid 1 were also contributing factors I think. (Hey if they can get these cool remakes, why not FF 7?)