Yeah I tend to avoid JRPGs for that reason, as they are FAR too long for their own good and I share Yahtzee's criticisms of them "separating gameplay and story with a wrought-iron fence", western RPGs like the Fallout and Mass Effect games I find far more interesting.
TLOU2 Review Thread
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*Looks at some of the stuff that happens with Furries in the west*
*Looks at the 'clopping' fans *
And you're saying people in the West aren't into some weird shit?
Hell there's Session Wrestling which is a fetish for strong / muscular woman beating the shit out of men.............I'll leave that knowledge with you and let you determine the relevance to the game in question and the creative directors history.
A return to the glory days of companies not giving a fuck about offending people?
Stop trying to make 1 game for everyone and start making multiple different games for different audiences?
I mean can you imagine food companies trying to do this?
Make a Perfect Past Sauce for everyone?
Um that's not Transphobia. That's pointing out a recurring criticism from pop culture critics can be applied here. The literal "Man with boobs" concept.
Abby is apparently built like a man, is fairly violent / brutal and based on the sex scene she's not really one for passion / Romance and even much foreplay.
Apparently in an interview with GQ or something Druckman claimed to want to 'Take down gaming sacred cow' so to speak
So don't Lesbians find conventionally sexy women sexy?
Do Lesbians not like Big boobs?
I'm sorry this argument seems stupid to be considering it's not just Abby who was changed.
I mean this is who was allegedly who Dina is modelled after
Comparison to Dina in game
It's a trend in modern gaming and I really can't believe this is actually being done to be inclusive to LGBTQ people unless they're literally the kind of people who go on about "The breeders" or who yell that female character designs are too sexy on twitter while posting gay furry muscle porn.
Sorry but it seems more of a conspiracy theory to suggest the changes to characters were done for LGBTQ people to make them feel comfortable and not you know it's a bunch of neo-puritan being neo-puritan again pushing for "modesty standards"
Those people who shame attractive femininity in video games while calling themselves feminist are sexist themselves. It's also why Lara Laura Croft is shorter and more average looking now. To be feminist would be to accept that it's fine to have bodies like Lara Croft (adjusting for the old cartoon art style) or that model above.
Every country has weird shit. Thank you for pointing that out to @blackdiamond.
That would be a good start, yes. That Jim Sterling episode is always in the back of mind.
Satire doesn't mean opposite, sarcasm is opposite.
He kinda did take the coward's way out though. Very little of the game is actually a continuance of Joel and Ellie's relationship or story. You could've done this story without Joel and Ellie if you wanted to.
Which I said all the way back in the beginning when the sequel was first announced. That is what they should have done.
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A recurring criticism from chuds on 4chan is not valid, i've not seen any critics that reviewed this game make any such claims about Abby. There's plenty of women built like that in real life, i've got to say you're coming off as awfully sexist here.
I'm mainly talking about commercially released products, Japan has some beyond creepy shit in their fictional media like Dear S that would NEVER in a million years be allowed in the USA.
LOL no, then it would've been like every other dime-a-dozen video game sequels, i'm glad part 2 had the fucking balls to try something that very few games did.
There ain't nothing "Cowardly" about part 2, cowardly would've been playing it safe and making it more like the first one.
Do not insult other users.
Oh spare me the fake outrage, nobody is "Shaming attractive feminity" edgelord incel troll, go back to Kiwifarms fool.
Lara Croft got changed because her original look was frankly outdated.
You clearly don't know a goddamn thing about feminism, it's about accepting ALL body types, not JUST attractive ones.
I'm guessing you're a creepy stalker.
I'm well aware of that, but Japan is unique in that they have the youngest age of consent of any country(13, i'm not joking) and that innevitably bleeds over into their fictional media in some truly creepy ways.
Look I like a lot of anime, but i'd be lying if I said there wasn't some seriously icky stuff that made me seriously question who it was for.
Exactly! Anyone who believes that nonsense probably also thinks Qanon is real.
Never implied it was. I can tell you're gonna be here long.Also, what outrage? Sounds like you're the one who is pissed for some reason.
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Do not insult other users.
Longer then you incel troll.
Also, what outrage? Sounds like you're the one who is pissed for some reason.
You sounded pretty butthurt and pissed over me pointing out that women like Abby exist in real life.
Huh? My response was to Dwarvenhobble directly above me, post 603. I have no idea what you're talking about now. You're weird.
This thread is not about Anita Sarkeesian. Please drop this subject.
Yeh there isn't a critic review saying it........... which is even more hilarious because for fucking years we've been having stuff like "Old Lara Croft was just a man with boobs" or "[insert strong female character people like] is just a man with boobs".
Suddenly here we have Abby who both looks like and acts like a man with boobs and suddenly not a damn sound.
And there's plenty of women built like Quiet in real life or Dead or Alive characters but apparently they're probleatic
just as a reminder Bigfoot erotica exists in the USA........... I'll say that again. Bigfoot Erotica.........Those are actual products you can buy.........
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It got changed in the name of realism and complaints that she was too unrealistically different than women could look......... Except there was literally a movie with Angelina Jolie playing her and no-one went "Well she doesn't look like Lara Croft"
Also have you ever read Anita Sarkeesians Masters thesis?
It's a ride
Most of it is how the Feminine is bad character creation.
Hell if that's not enough Anita herself did a handy video on why Lego is problematic because they decided to make lines to appeal to each sex
Hell even if that's not your thing. Have an image from an alleged protest that happened many years ago outside a Hooters restaurant.
Oh and before you pull the "Creepy Stalker card" may I just say the name Matt Hickey.....
1) No it's not that's a misnomer, it used to be decades ago in some areas due to the way the laws worked but most have been superseded since by he governmental laws that mean in most areas it's 16 and in some areas 18.
2) It's not actually the youngest in the world that would be the Philippines which is 12 (according to google) Also depending on how you interpret it Saudi Arabia has no age of consent laws only that you must be married.
Sorry to say, but Part II does not have the balls you think it does. Their story was complete with nowhere else to go. Anything else afterward is a bad fan fic. Is misery piled on more mistery for little to no reason. It thinks it handles grey areas well, but it does not. Dark, brooding, and edgey thinking its deep "art" or "profound" once again. All of that sound and fury; signifying nothing. Gee, never seen that billion times before. A dime dozen misfire on what some director or execs that thinks they're inventing slices of bread. Just another edge lord crawling in the shit maggot pile.
I'm aware, but like I said before, you blew off criticism and singled out a country for nothing that has to do with the LoUs Pt. II or anything. All countries have messed up values. It is just a matter whether you bother to acknowledge, are aware, ignorant, or choose to not know, give some a pass, or act oblivious to certain countries. I am not going to throw everyone under blanket because of a few fucking pervs.
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Japan’s laws are also too confusing. The penal code (which was established in 1907) uses 13yrs as a base, but the Juvenile Obscene Acts takes precedence over it and is based on individual prefectures. Since the age of adulthood is 20yrs that means it could be considered illegal to have any type of sexual relationship with someone under that age, or whatever age is set by the individual prefecture.Yeh there isn't a critic review saying it........... which is even more hilarious because for fucking years we've been having stuff like "Old Lara Croft was just a man with boobs" or "[insert strong female character people like] is just a man with boobs".
Suddenly here we have Abby who both looks like and acts like a man with boobs and suddenly not a damn sound.
And there's plenty of women built like Quiet in real life or Dead or Alive characters but apparently they're probleatic
just as a reminder Bigfoot erotica exists in the USA........... I'll say that again. Bigfoot Erotica.........Those are actual products you can buy.........
Yes, Bigfoot Erotica Is Absolutely a Thing
Republican candidate Denver Riggleman may not like Sasquatch porn — but that doesn't mean plenty of other people aren't big fans
It got changed in the name of realism and complaints that she was too unrealistically different than women could look......... Except there was literally a movie with Angelina Jolie playing her and no-one went "Well she doesn't look like Lara Croft"
Also have you ever read Anita Sarkeesians Masters thesis?
It's a ride
Most of it is how the Feminine is bad character creation.
Hell if that's not enough Anita herself did a handy video on why Lego is problematic because they decided to make lines to appeal to each sex
Hell even if that's not your thing. Have an image from an alleged protest that happened many years ago outside a Hooters restaurant.
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Oh and before you pull the "Creepy Stalker card" may I just say the name Matt Hickey.....
1) No it's not that's a misnomer, it used to be decades ago in some areas due to the way the laws worked but most have been superseded since by he governmental laws that mean in most areas it's 16 and in some areas 18.
2) It's not actually the youngest in the world that would be the Philippines which is 12 (according to google) Also depending on how you interpret it Saudi Arabia has no age of consent laws only that you must be married.
It's cowardly in the sense that Druckmann described as being cowardly. Only like 10% of the story actually continued on from the 1st game (which was by far the best bits). The other 90% of the story could've replaced any characters and it would've been the same. Hell, half the game was literally not Ellie and not Joel. Thus, in the sense that Druckmann himself said would be cowardly, the game was just that for the most part.