Well at least it has the benefit of being in a language they can speak. If I started using Japanese words like it's normal people's eyes would glaze over. Also, incidentally, that is what a weeb would do, using random Japanese in everyday English speech is super cringe lol. I'm actually old enough to remember the original definition and not the reclaimed one for that term that is more like a synonym to otaku or something nowadays, so I avoid acting in that way at all times XD.
Then, use something like femboy or tomgirl instead. Those are in a language they can speak, and have the benefit of actually conveying the meaning of feminine boy much better to someone who is not kneedeep into anime subculture, while also not carrying the negative connotation of trickery that trap does (as well as being a poor translation of otokonoko).
Such distinctions presumably being lost on transphobic types. It gets used as a slur against trans people (or did a few years ago, I might be a bit behind the times).
To me femboy sounds more like a diss, like calling someone a sissy if that makes sense, like you're not really a boy, you're a weaker version of one! Meanwhile a lot of otokonoko would literally proclaim their manliness with utterances like "I am a man among men!" and so on. And this is the first time in my life I see "tomgirl", never heard that one before lol.
Yeah so from this I guess the important thing here is context.
Maybe, but I've still never really seen it used in a negative way. The term certainly has that connotation, but I've only seen it used in the affirmative, such as a 'trap thread' where people want to see traps. Maybe I stopped being a /b/tard before it really came into their lexicon.
You have a tendency to deflect criticism by saying it's written out in problematic language. That it's telling of the critic that they devalue some group of people. But some people do sad and pathetic things sometimes even though it doesn't hurt anyone else. They can be criticized for that nevertheless.
Not really? Still not quite sure what you are talking about here, can you rephrase? Cause I really don't fully understand your point here.
Yeah I don't like Reddit either to be honest, while I do like shitposting it shouldn't be the only thing to do and having an earnest discussion is good from time to time, though I'll admit I'm more of a lurker for that type of stuff rather than an actual participant, but I get what you mean, to be honest what little I've seen of reddit since it isn't a platform I use seems to be purely memes.
I'm always shitposting, but I do have some opinions on things that I guess need to be stated more earneastely if I am to communicate them effectively, as fun as shitposting is , it's hard to deduce what the poster's intention's are from it.No brother! Return to the shitposting side!
The thing is that language is fluid, the meaning of words is always changing and as such it's impossible to keep them consistent, I mean the actual definition of the word trap has very little to do with what's actually being discussed here, the problem is that it was given a negative connotation by transphobes, then it became an anime meme and now that it's used and status as meme has been solidified it's slowly being claimed by transphobes again under the guise of it just being an anime meme, like I get it can be funny and that there's lots of good memes with that word, but due to the fluid nature of language it's impossible to restrict it's use specifically to anime.
Just because you haven't seen it doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
Is it really? Or are a group of malicious actors trying to change language for their own benefit?
Hmm, I assumed that 'trap' generally refereed to feminine but male in pronouns and gender where trans was which ever gender they felt best suited them. From a perspective of this conversation, I know trans is much more complicated irl. Didn't realize it had made that much of a jump to the real world assholes.
If there's one thing I can say about modern day it's how I hate how accelerated everything is. No time for anything, and what was ok one day is bad the next, what was a word that meant one thing now doesn't mean that and so on and so on. It's not change in itself that's so frustrating but how fast everything is going, it feels like there's nothing solid to hold onto and we're just free-falling.
What, like the Swastikas was maliciously turned into a pro-genocide flag?... yeah we know. It happens all the time. Maybe instead of complaining about the people who are pointing out the problem, why don't you deal with the people who MADE the problem
You can think whatever you want, the fact of the matter is that hate groups like the KKK are using it, if that isn't enough for you to be convinced that's perfectly fine but to be frank I find your argument to be laughable, I have already stated why I believe the word trap when referring to men that look like women is inherently negative, in my previous posts before that video.
I can understand that, the fast pace of modern society is difficult to get a grasp off, often when you learn of something it's already obsolete or disproved and it can be quite stressful to keep up to date with everything and oftentimes it requires a great amount of effort just to know what is even happening today.
I agree with this..
Citation needed because that sounds made-up.
You yourself said it. Every word has the potential to be another theater of war. Every word has the potential to be taken over by malicious actors who want to try and use it for their own benefit.
I think the issue is that people are assuming that everyone knows everything about everyone. Let us just take the animemes on its own, I bet you almost none of the people that visit that subreddit even had any idea that anyone was using the term maliciously but then suddenly its bad to use a term and from the view of the people being told that it looks completely arbitrary.
