Why are you asking me a question that has nothing to do with my post?
Fake news: https://lawandcrime.com/high-profil...-mass-hysterectomies-at-ice-detention-center/
I am talking about the second part of your post. Did you misclick and quote me with something that has nothing to do with what I said?
You ask if we cannot criticize people. I'm writing, not if you are just making fake news. I am not finding in this thread convincing evidence that US policy holds that if a nubile woman illegally enters the US, she is to be sterilized. At best you have a few anecdotes where an individual MAY deserve that criticism. For such an individual, please, critisize away.
Yes, in response to you saying that people should just not come in illegally.
Okay that's kind of creepy that you wanna describe it that way, I'm not sure why. Can you try not to do that and stick to less editorializing with the nubile crap?
Not sure what "crap" you are writing of... you object to the term nubile? Are there women who are not nubile complaining of being sterilized against their will?
As an issue of syntax, these two ideas are not causally linked.
Republicans have found ways to be pro-genocide. If you break even a misdemeanor law while having dark skin, you will be sterilized against your will to protect society to prevent you from turning out any more genetically-compelled criminals. This all totally ethical and moral.
Which things in this thread are perfectly okay to be doing to the detainees again?
Separating children from the adults they had been accompanying takes the lead. I'm sure there are others that object to the very detention itself. That some holding facilities include chain linked fences.
Okay, but why are you talking about them in *this* thread?
And this is why Trump supporters should never be allowed to live their moral failings down.
From the article, this quote was interesting.
Interesting how? Not sure what conclusions to draw from that on its own
The child separation issue was raised in this thread. That while it's main topic is about anecdotes suggesting it is US policy to sterilize nubile women illegally entering the USA, there is an over all subtext of objection to the very notion of border protection.
@Specter Von Baren too: correct me if I'm wrong but I think the quote shows this is NOT a systemic problem. It may not even be a problem.
I didn't realize you considered human rights border protection. Anyways, it isn't so you're wrong there. It's about how we treat them in these facilities not about 'border protection'. Once they're in there how they are treated is a matter of human rights.
Yes, but my stance that you asked for does not rectroactively means it's chill to suggest that we shouldn't look into how they're treated because of a desire to be callous and just say they shouldn't come anyways instead of considering whether the treatment is fine.
Pretty bad points. Punitive element needn't involve children, that's just fucked up. Not being in adult facilities should be for their benefit, not detriment to fulfill some urge to punish people. If that is a problem they should seek more humane solutions. Yeah, no, real concern doesn't mean separate them from their families. They're being detained as is, not tossed out to traffickers.
Assuming I'm reading it correctly (No guarentees there with me) it means that only two women were officially sent to a gynecologist from that facility since 2018 which is less than the number suggested by the whistle blower which means either the whistle blower is making things up or the other women were sent there unofficially and thus I would assume that means this is not a systemic issue but a problem with a specific person.
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