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Honestly, if he dies I have no idea what the effect would be on the election. Like we've not had anything like that happen any time recently. Like does his campaign (no doubt inherited by the VP pick) lose momentum? Does it stay the same? Can't imagine it gains.
I don't want to have suffered through Trump for 4 years only for Pence to win another fours years as a republican. And given Pence's hawkishness on foreign policy, I doubt most of the world will either.

Pence defeated Hillary's VP pick, Tim Kaine, in a Vice-presidential debate. If it's him vs Biden he will win due to Pence being younger, and more politically savvy, if it's him against Harris, and Harris comes out swinging at him, he will win because Trump set the standard so low for republicans in a debate. That and the idiot news media, and much of the American people like it when a calm midwestern person tells them things they want to hear vs angry black women talking about the truth of say racism, etc.

By the way, I am just stating that I believe the MSM will state Harris is an angry black woman, or at least I fear the framing.
 
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I don't want to have suffered through Trump for 4 years only for Pence to win another fours years as a republican. And given Pence's hawkishness on foreign policy, I doubt most of the world will either.

Pence defeated Hillary's VP pick, Tim Kaine, in a Vice-presidential debate. If it's him vs Biden he will win due to Pence being younger, and more politically savvy, if it's him against Harris, and Harris comes out swinging at him, he will win because Trump set the standard so low for republicans in a debate. That and the idiot news media, and much of the American people like it when a calm midwestern person tells them things they want to hear vs angry black women talking about the truth of say racism, etc.

By the way, I am just stating that I believe the MSM will state Harris is an angry black woman, or at least I fear the framing.
I mean, I don't think the presidential debates are gonna have that significant an impact necessarily. Haven't checked, but have heard the percent of viewers who are undecided while watching them is not that high?
 

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I mean, I don't think the presidential debates are gonna have that significant an impact necessarily. Haven't checked, but have heard the percent of viewers who are undecided while watching them is not that high?
In a race as close as 2016, anything could have put Trump over the edge. If I were Biden's team I would immediately start doing opposition research on Pence, and look over every day of his record as Indiana's governor, and that' the easy part, the hard part's finding out how to counter his midwestern appeal.
 

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I mean, I don't think the presidential debates are gonna have that significant an impact necessarily. Haven't checked, but have heard the percent of viewers who are undecided while watching them is not that high?
It can impact whether or not someone decides to vote at all though. IF Trump says something that makes them think "Now I have to vote to stop that from happening" or it could make them not want to vote at all. I Hope they do find a way to have them continue after Trump recovers.

Though I am expecting it to be mild for Trump and due to such, he will reduce his pandemic efforts and it will directly result in many more deaths that could have been prevented due to Trump removing their resource access. In his mind it is likely: " losers that got it worse than me don't deserve to live anyhow".
 

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It can impact whether or not someone decides to vote at all though. IF Trump says something that makes them think "Now I have to vote to stop that from happening" or it could make them not want to vote at all. I Hope they do find a way to have them continue after Trump recovers.

Though I am expecting it to be mild for Trump and due to such, he will reduce his pandemic efforts and it will directly result in many more deaths that could have been prevented due to Trump removing their resource access. In his mind it is likely: " losers that got it worse than me don't deserve to live anyhow".
He's in the high-risk group.
 

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In a race as close as 2016, anything could have put Trump over the edge. If I were Biden's team I would immediately start doing opposition research on Pence, and look over every day of his record as Indiana's governor, and that' the easy part, the hard part's finding out how to counter his midwestern appeal.
We already know everything about Pence. He is a pray away the gay sexist, bigoted holy roller and so bad that Trump picked him as an insurance policy against impeachment because NO ONE wanted him to be president in either party.
 

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He's in the high-risk group.
He is going to be under 24/hr personal care, and have access to all of the most expensive treatments available in the world, which makes him now in a much lower risk group. Most patients in ICU do not even have access to that. They aren't going to allow him to die, unless of course he gets a physician who wants him to.
 

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We already know everything about Pence. He is a pray away the gay sexist, bigoted holy roller and so bad that Trump picked him as an insurance policy against impeachment because NO ONE wanted him to be president in either party.
He still beat Tim Kaine in a VP debate, he's not an idiot. And no we don't know everything, he may have done things that journalists and the democrats aren't aware of now in his state, but could be aware of in the future.
 

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Color me sceptical.

Mighty convenient way for him to not have to attend more debates.

Also mighty convenient way for him to downplay the severity of covid-19, pretend to be infected and then make a miraculous recovery and claim that the virus is just a simple flu, nothing to worry about, forget about those 212.000 dead Americans.
 

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He is going to be under 24/hr personal care, and have access to all of the most expensive treatments available in the world, which makes him now in a much lower risk group. Most patients in ICU do not even have access to that. They aren't going to allow him to die, unless of course he gets a physician who wants him to.
Given his health, I disagree. Someone who is overweight, old, doesn't do exercise, eats bad food, and etc.

 

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Lose 1d20 sanity points.
He is going to be under 24/hr personal care, and have access to all of the most expensive treatments available in the world, which makes him now in a much lower risk group. Most patients in ICU do not even have access to that.
She's 100% right about this, as I explained before my friend that was in the worst medical condition is the only one of my friends that survived Coronavirus because he had access to better medical attention, the worst part is when he survives this he's probably going to start a misinformation campaign claiming it's not as bad as everyone's saying which will suck.
 

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He still beat Tim Kaine in a VP debate, he's not an idiot. And no we don't know everything, he may have done things that journalists and the democrats aren't aware of now in his state, but could be aware of in the future.
No one said he was an idiot, he is a snake. He does something extremely harmful and lies straight to your face telling you how great it is. He doesn't announce everything he does, he works silently behind the scenes, making him worse than a bumbling idiot like Trump.
 

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He is going to be under 24/hr personal care, and have access to all of the most expensive treatments available in the world, which makes him now in a much lower risk group. Most patients in ICU do not even have access to that. They aren't going to allow him to die, unless of course he gets a physician who wants him to.
And anyone who would do that is not worthy of the appellation of physician.
 
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No one said he was an idiot, he is a snake. He does something extremely harmful and lies straight to your face telling you how great it is. He doesn't announce everything he does, he works silently behind the scenes, making him worse than a bumbling idiot like Trump.
Which is why we need to do opposition research on him.
 

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She's 100% right about this, as I explained before my friend that was in the worst medical condition is the only one of my friends that survived Coronavirus because he had access to better medical attention, the worst part is when he survives this he's probably going to start a misinformation campaign claiming it's not as bad as everyone's saying which will suck.
Yea I had already talked about that on the pandemic thread like over an hour before this thread was created.
* gets irritated about multiple threads on same topic so you can't keep up with the conversation and wind up repeating yourself*
 

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And anyone who would do that is not worthy of the appellation of physician.
Exactly, so that is why I am saying this will be very bad for the people due to how he will respond after as I already discussed on the first thread about this:

 

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Exactly, so that is why I am saying this will be very bad for the people due to how he will respond after as I already discussed on the first thread about this:

Hey can you try a bit harder to keep plugging that as 'the first thread about this' when it was originally about coronavirus, I can't feel enough passive aggressiveness about me thinking this deserved its own thread yet
 
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Which is why we need to do opposition research on him.
They already did that in 2016. What we already know about him is why democrats didn't want to remove Trump from office, as he is still worse.
 

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Hey can you try a bit harder to keep plugging that as 'the first thread about this' when it was originally about coronavirus, I can't feel enough passive aggressiveness about me thinking this deserved its own thread yet
I have to keep repeating myself. I DO THIS EVERYTIME someone makes multiple threads. I have to keep repeating myself because that is what happens every time someone makes multiple threads without asking for a merge
LOL

It isn't just irritating to me to have to have to duplicate discussions to keep up. Who wants to do that? * ALWAYS asks for people to merge threads when it is same topic* No one made a thread just for Boris Johnson when he came down with it either.
 

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I have to keep repeating myself. I DO THIS EVERYTIME someone makes multiple threads. I have to keep repeating myself because that is what happens every time someone makes multiple threads without asking for a merge
LOL

It isn't just irritating to me to have to have to duplicate discussions to keep up. Who wants to do that?
It's irritating to me to see you keep being passive aggressive about it.

I think that this specific topic deserves it's own thread over a general coronavirus thread as this is not just about coronavius, it's about a specific individual and the effect it can have on the election (not a coronavirus topic) and the presidency (also not a coronavirus topic)