Also can't help but notice you skipped over the link to community self organization as a solution to overzealous police posted up there.
You mean the link? The link that demonstrates the existence of an armed militia? You mean the link that lists CHAZ as some kind of template, when crime spiked once the police pulled out, before the whole thing collapsed? You mean that?
The entire thing seems more like an argument for replacing a police force with a militia force. I'm dubious of the difference.
That isn't an answer.
Have you considered that you might be very wrong?
Also not an answer.
Yes, of course I might be wrong. I might be wrong about a lot of things. You might be wrong. "What if you're wrong" isn't a counter-argument.
I have never used the police, I have been in many situations where I could’ve used the police but did not because I hate the police.
And were these situations where you yourself were threatened, or when others were threatened?
And Capitalism is the reason for the decline of the entire world, not just México.
Actually, on average, the world's getting better, not worse.
I'm not attributing that solely to capitalism mind you. But claiming everything bad in the world is due to capitalism is just as assinine as claiming everything good is due to it as well.
I'm not, I'm living in the North of the country which coincidentally resembles what Capitalists call "Anarchy" a lot more than the actual anarchic region of the country,
And would police make that state of affairs worse or better?
tell me Hawki when you were in school did you ever see a girl get kidnapped in the parking lot?
Did you see so many corpses in the street that you became indifferent to the violence?
Have you been in so many shootouts that you are completely indifferent to them and in fact just walk through hoping a stray bullet would kill you?
Have you ever passed out from hunger despite working at a restaurant that is throwing shit-loads of food per day?
The answer is no to all questions. But most of what you're describing comes off as an argument for more police, not less of them.
I have Hawki, this is what Capitalism gets you,
Because murder, kidnapping, and starvation never happened before capitalism.
Seriously, why do these ideas keep coming up? Either capitalism is responsible for everything bad, or for everything good. Neither of these positions are tenable.
you people just don't realise it because you live in the country that exploits the poor countries, not in the exploited one.
Let's take that as being true. Exploitation isn't the sole purview of capitalism. You only have to look at China or the Soviet Union, or heck, all of human history for evidence of that. Also, even if we focus on capitalist countries, the United States is even more capitalist than Australia, and has far more geo-political influence. By your logic, it should have less crime than Oz, not more.
Saying "get rid of capitalism and everything will be better" isn't really an argument. All the problems of the world didn't evaporate when we got rid of feudalism or mercantilism. They certainly weren't solved when, in the 20th century, various countries adopted socialism.
Also, I actually looked it up. If we're focusing on police killings, the most peaceful countries in the world are Switzerland, Denmark, and Iceland, whereas the most violent is Venezuela. The former are capitalist, the latter is socialist. Which countries are those three exploiting?
In case you're asking whether I think "capitalism is peace, socialism is murder," no, of course not. But there's no real linear relationship between an economic system and the level of police brutality.
(Seriously, how the hell did a discussion about policing get entwined with economic systems?)
It's not like black communities in the USA are suffering from this same thing in country with more cops and supposedly less corruption?
Oh! Wait, that was the original subject of this thread.
Fuck that all cops need to get fired.
I love your logic. It's the logic of "X has a problem, let's get rid of X."
I noticed that no-one answered my original question. The police in the United States kill about 1000 people per year. Annual gun deaths come to around 40,000. If the police were removed, would the latter figure go up, or go down? And that's a question that every country in the world would have to answer, and not just gun deaths, crime in general.
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