I don't think they're going to make an outrageous decision to overturn an election for Trump, no. Although in practice, they won't decide a lot of it anyway.
Election results discussion thread (and sadly the inevitable aftermath)
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Courts that can hear cases Trump sues over, which is not going to happen in a day; there is literally no possible way for Trump to simply declare elections to be over. He has to fight for it over the course of several weeks, by which time many of these results will already be public.
What can be done legally and what can be done in practice aren't necessarily the same. Trump can very well declare the election to be over and he can very well bury the the results between declaring fraud and just being loudest. He only need to sow some confusion to give enough of an opening for packed courts to just declare the results void trough all kinds of technicality. What are the democrats going to do if, says, some court declare that a heavily democratic county ballot are fraudulent and should just be ignored? Last election in one race republican literally searched trough every ballot to find some they claimed really wanted to vote for the republican candidate despite voting democrats and they used that as an excuse to flip a race, and the supreme court just said okay (can't remember the state atm).
You asked him to share the polls just so you could vet them... and prove he's wrong! Debunked! Why would you walk around with this kind of attitude. Why would you just eviscerate him, is this fun for you?
Unfortunately, the guys who climb the greasy pole to the top get there by thinking "Whatever will be is what I make it be".
Or, as attributed to Karl Rove (but he denies it so it might have been another GWB operative):
They weren't even polls, most of them. Only one of them even asked any American voters. But apparently pointing that out makes me a meme or something.
I dunno, I'm just getting sick of this blase, dismissive online attitude. Giving a shit or making an argument just gets handwaved away with a low-content, no-substance reply or a shitty drawn macro or something. Being on forums is getting tiresome.
Enough of that crap. Trump literally cannot declare the election over without a military coup. That's the end of it.
Well no, his hope is to take this to the Supreme court and use the 6-3 majority to shut down the voting, just like they did in 2000, just on a grander scale.
The saddest thing is that this is even a question. It doesn't matter what your politics are, in a sane world Donald Trump would never have even been a presidential nominee much less presidential candidate much less win back in 2016, and the only reason he did win was that Hilary was just as bad. This one? Trump spent 4 years being the worst President in American history, Trump would have to nuke random American cities for shits and giggles at this point to be worse. If sanity prevailed Trump would be the first Presidential candidate to legitmately get 0% of vote. That's right, not a single person in the entirety of the U.S. should be voting for this guy. That doesn't mean voting for Biden, in fact if there is ever going to be an election where a third party candidate could actually come out and win this is the one, or at least get enough of the vote that it's not a total landslide.
I gave up entirely on elections in general in 2016. If anything showed what a total joke the whole process is it would be that election. Trump winning again would just be the final nail in the coffin. I mean, come on, you'd have to go to other countries with warmongering tyrants that blatantly kill their own people for fun, fudge their documents to make them born U.S. citizens, and bring them in to find a worse Presidential candidate.
I gave up entirely on elections in general in 2016. If anything showed what a total joke the whole process is it would be that election. Trump winning again would just be the final nail in the coffin. I mean, come on, you'd have to go to other countries with warmongering tyrants that blatantly kill their own people for fun, fudge their documents to make them born U.S. citizens, and bring them in to find a worse Presidential candidate.
If he wins, would it convince you that there are more people that think you're wrong than those that think you're right in the US?
The winner isn't necessarily the one who gets the most votes. If it were, Trump wouldn't be president.
Well...we are talking about a president who "won" last time while having more people vote against him.
Why not? He just has to do it, he can just go to the podium, declare himself winner and order the vote to stop. Boom, he just did it. Then it comes to whether the important part of the government/bureaucracy/court agree with him or not. Look back at 2000, the shit they pulled was egregious and they got away with it all (like stopping recount in democratic counties while allowing recount in republican area in a way that they'd increase the number of vote accepted). Sure most of the states won't accept it, but that doesn't matter since we already know the results of most of the states, all that matter are a few key battleground states. If enough of those just decided that, yes Trump is the president and can just declare that the counting should stop or that mail in ballot shouldn't be counted or that *insert crazy rational* (seriously the 2000 Florida recount was stopped because the supreme court declare that it would do irreparable harm to Bush, and now the court is way more packed) then he'll have done it, a lot of the swing state have republican governor with packed court.
What's written in the law is pretty pointless if it's not enforced, all he has to do is sow enough distrust that the people whose job is to enforce the law agree with him, or at least do not disagree with him enough that they're willing to remove him from office by force.
Here's how I see it happening, night of most battleground state are too close to call for most network but a few fervent Trump network do claim he won based on very preliminary results or even outright fake one. Trump goes to the podium, says he won using those network results and claim counting mail in ballot should stop. Most states ignore him, but a few key battleground states do stop counting them which allow Trump to just squeeze in a win. As the days and weeks goes by the democrat sue the states that stop counting ballot but they mostly lose or the motion end up getting bounced around in technicality. It's now late December and no one really know what happened, some of the uncounted ballot have already been destroyed by over zealous officials, Trump setup some phony but legitimate sounding committee packed full of republican that declare that the mail in voting were fraudulent and that its totally okay for Trump to have cancel counting. Inauguration day happen and Trump does the whole thing (maybe not fully official fashion, but how can anyone tell?), what can Democrat do?
I do, but you said "most people". And most people didn't vote for him.
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