God, I don't know anymore.
Anyway, I need to go to sleep. In 7-8 hours time, I should wake up. And I expect some results damn it!
Election results discussion thread (and sadly the inevitable aftermath)
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Anyway, I need to go to sleep. In 7-8 hours time, I should wake up. And I expect some results damn it!
Puerto Rico mostly doesn't want to be a state, which is one of the core reasons it isn't. Statehood only won in one of the votes called on it, and that vote was being boycotted so probably isn't the most representative.
And DC is intentionally not a state so that no state controls the seat of federal government.
Also, you start trying to make new states specifically to benefit Democrats and Texas might pull the trigger on that thing where they are explicitly and uniquely allowed to divide themselves into no more than 5 states.
Gonna read all the posts written in that time, or just skip to the most recent ones?
Puerto Rico voters approve statehood referendum
A majority of voters endorse statehood for the island territory.
www.thedenverchannel.com
Apparently, they actually do now but by a narrow margin of 52-48 (as far as I know this wasn't boycotted like last time)
This has since changed. They redid the vote with just "state or not" as options, and state won 52%. This is, I would say, the first clear result this way, so now Congress could reasonably act on that.
DC should never be a state.
The reason they boycotted the previous one is because the question was formulated to disadvantage the option they wanted. This referendum was not done that way, it was just "do you want to be a state".
Why not though? People live there and those people deserve to be represented just as much as everyone else.
And why is it supposed to be federal?
A far better argument would be that it would be the smallest state or that it would be entirely urban. Heck, you could make all of residential DC a state, that way the citizens would still have the representation they are entitled to.
Or you could just merge everything but the federal buildings back into Maryland.
That seems an absurd notion, nothing similar is done on the remaining levels of government and that hasn't cause the nation to collapse. In fact it seems far more damaging to democracy that the federal government can harm states and the state governments by withholding assets or implementing targeted regulations.
If it were a state, the state government would potentially then have disproportionate control over the mechanisms of the federal government. It makes sense to me.
Then again, you could always find other ways of addressing this: strict limitations on what the state government could do, or a section within DC that isn't under state jurisdiction.
18148 difference at 99%, holy shit. There's a good chance that the winning votes could be way lower than %.1 difference
Edit: there is 61,367 votes remain *UNCOUNTED* in Georgia
Neutral how? What neutrality does DC offer that no other state does? Are we afraid of the potential state government messing with property rights? WE can legislate around that, and even if we don't other state governments haven't done that to resident politicians. Or is it perhaps a tax thing? Because that is also easily legislated.
The idea that a bunch of people must be unrepresented just so that some politicians, who aren't even in the state all the time, can be shielded by some sort of neutrality is laughable.
I've got another answer.
I believe the USA was inspired by the principle of "no tax without representation". If they won't give DC citizens representation then...
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