Well Wokeness tends to lead to bad writing out of a desire to lecture the audience or place the politics of a piece ahead of the plot or series internal logic and consistency.
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If you can't write without shitting on somebody for being born different, then you're a shitty writer.
You're the guys telling everyone women etc. cant act a certain way and demanding that they appease your needs. Have all the justification you want, that's the facts of this thread. That justification might make sense to you, it doesn't at all justify it to me. But instead of just watching something else, you gotta get on your soapbox, tell everyone they are wrongthink
Media is judgy. Get used it. I had to live through plenty of judgy media I dont like. Media ALWAYS judges. There is no apolitical media. If you hadnt noticed this yet, it because it was so one sided. Because apparently talking about plastic in the ocean is so politically bad
Are those the facts? I bet you can't quote me or anyone else "telling women etc. that they can't act a certain way" and/or "demanding that they appease our needs".
Who does Mario judge? Kidnappers?
A few hundred movies a year happen per year (except this one). Most are terrible. Which ones are point out as terrible, particularly on YouTube? Women and minorities. Meaning that there is a higher standard of quality placed on them
I don't see how that is me "telling women that they can't act in a certain way".
That's me finding it implausible that a smaller woman can beat Drake and Sam, 2v1, because that breaks the established rules of the game's universe.
I mean, if I had said "Nadine shouldn't be able to shoot lasers out of her eyes", you can see how that's not a misogynistic statement, right?
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That's a strange position to take when really Rose's arc was about discovering how powerful / capable she was on her own.
Clara had potential but then I think they lost it.
Bill had potential too but got reduced so much to her identity it ruined her as a character, she didn't seem to have much personality.
Fart Aliens = Well that kind of worked and was somewhat of a more silly episode admittedly but not that egregious.
Mannequin bad guys = The Autons are a long standing Doctor Who villain.
Cybermen floaty heads = yeh makes 0 sense especially in terms of the series lore before that point. Cybermen are still part living beings, hell in the past Cybermen having their heads knocked off have generally died pretty quick in the shows past.
There's judgy and preachy of actions of characters round them then there's doing it seemingly towards the audience or to make some kind of point at the audience like a G.I. Joe PSA.
The final Capaldi series had it's preachy moments and guess what, it got low ratings too. Until series 12 I'd have said his was more preachy but Series 12 for Whitaker managed to surpass Capaldi's stuff.
I literally have a degree in Environmental Chemistry, I know very well about plenty of issues facing the world and I get maybe 2 single use carrier bags per year because they're specialist wrapping paper ones so I can carry wrapping paper home, which BTW goes into recycling and I avoid the shiny non recyclable kind. I don't need encouraging to do it by a show, you know what works a lot better? regulation and action by industries. I'm sitting here writing this with in my bathroom a thing of face wash with crushed pumice in it, which is an alternative to microbreads and wasn't used as much because it was more expensive for companies to do. What stopped microbeads in the UK was the government banning their use.
You know the episode about plastics in the ocean? as you are such a moral person can you point out the big giant problem in the episode that undermines the whole point?
If not I'll happily explain it but it makes the whole episode come off as hollow once you know about it.
People who want to do things about it already are and people who don't won't likely be swayed to action by Doctor Fucking Who. You know what was more effective for me to see in showing the plastic issue? A Sea turtle having to have a plastic straw pulled out of it's nose.
You know what is a better solution? Industry change like the project a friend of mine is working on to make biodegradable disposable plastic substitutes using seaweed.
A you pointed out the show was sending you messages when you were little..........The episodes of Doctor Who that came off as lecturing people you can look at and they very much don't seem like they were designed for younger viewers yet they're putting in G.I. Joe esc PSA? What's next don't do drugs because they're addictive and harmful?
No I pointed out a bunch of diverse things I like.
Wokeness is different to diversity as I explained before.
Simple. The big ones with lots of hype behind them often being bigged up.
People aren't dunking on "Alice in Deadland" for being bad because it was never promoted.
What is being bigged up as majorly important and so great at present? Batwoman the series.
What isn't being bigged up and majorly important? Stargirl despite Joe Biden literally echoing sentiments from the show itself.......
Certain things are getting bigged up and promoted for lets say stupid reasons while other show are getting left in the dust it seems because they're not doing the "ra ra ra you're trash we're great" thing.
Easy to move the goal-post. It's a never ending parade.
Those shit writers are hired for a reason. Before this trend they wouldn't get picked up by anyone, and their scripts would be thrown in the bin where they belong. Instead there is a transparent push to correct course with hiring practices and accept people for roles and positions simply based on the labels they have. Which is what gave us wonderful things like the batwoman series.
Houseman: I don’t see how it’s telling women they can’t act a certain way
Also Houseman, in the next sentence mind you: Women can’t act a certain way because of my beliefs
Thanks for literally proving my point.
You can think this all you want. You can find it implausible all you want. These justification might work for you. Other people think differently and are fine with it. One reason is because Drake is implausible himself. But someone else already has been over this ground.
But the overall thing is: don’t take these apparently woke power fanatsy from people and they shouldn’t take the power fantasy away from you
Woke ness is diversity that you don’t like. Got it.
You know that Ripley was woke as fuck for her time. What’s the difference? None. Because people whined like this back then. They just didn’t use the word woke because the term hadn’t been created yet.
Not every diverse thing is going to be of top notch quality. Because that’s impossible It’s also not a standard you place on males. They can be crappily written and it’s not an offense.
Except I didn't say "Women can't act a certain way because of my beliefs", and I have no idea why you think that what you quoted is saying that.
It isn't "women acting in a certain way". I'm not talking about women, plural. I'm talking about one woman, singular. Nadine.
And I'm not talking about Nadine "acting" in any "certain way". I'm talking about Nadine being realistically able (according to the rules established in the game world), to do this one specific thing.
Don't twist my words.
Oh really? Well thank you. Because it seems like everybody has been on my case for having an opinion!
What power do you think I have over the game industry, exactly? What danger do you think I pose?
Ah yes, because bad movies have never been made before. This is only a problem now when woke people turned up.
You can point to as many sentences you want, I never said what you're accusing me of saying, nor do any of the sentences I've written support your claim.
No I explained before why I see Wokeness and diversity as different things.
Generally Wokeness is either:
1) Done in a way clearly not thought through
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2) Done in a way to try and take shots at others or present superiority.
As an example of 1) Alex Rider the TV show giving is a Black girl Nazi and deciding the race swap Alex Rider essentially Nanny / house keeper for a black woman while also race swapping one of the senior operatives in the Department and Alex's hander to being white. They also put a female character in not in the original book who ends up being little more than a Damsel in Distress and implied love interest.
As an example of 2) Batwoman - "The Suit will be perfect when it fits a woman" and other such lines.
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