10-Year-Old Borrows Steamy Gay Sex Manga From Local Library
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Once again sex is decidedly evil, and for some reason homosexuality is extra evil, and if it's in some cartoon or video game form it's some kind of concentrated evil that will make children grow up to become crack whores and mass murderers.
Maybe some nice violent afternoon cartoons or something would help offset the damage that the unholy depiction of consensual sexual activity would have on a young mind.
Maybe some nice violent afternoon cartoons or something would help offset the damage that the unholy depiction of consensual sexual activity would have on a young mind.
I got a comic from the library once that had bestiality in it so....yeah an astronaut getting an alligator drunk then raping him...then somehow producing an offspring
Something like that actually happened to me when I was like 12 or so.
I went to the library, got what looked like it had a cool design, kept reading, then realized what I was reading and stopped before the manga got to where it looked like it was leading.
The characters actually looked just like these two, except it was something about the blonde haired one being able to speak to and see ghosts.
I went to the library, got what looked like it had a cool design, kept reading, then realized what I was reading and stopped before the manga got to where it looked like it was leading.
The characters actually looked just like these two, except it was something about the blonde haired one being able to speak to and see ghosts.
The fact that the guy noticed his niece was reading yaoi is more of an indication of good parenting than bad parenting.dyre said:
I think people are too quick to blame the guardian in this situation. They're probably biased because of the stories of parents who let their children buy violent video games and then blame the store for allowing it to happen.
I don't believe in censorship or removal of the materials described, but I do believe that they should be segregated and restricted from being sold/loaned to minors without a parent or a guardian present. Yes parents and guardians should monitor what their children read (as Travis De Nevers did here) but I also believe retailers (including libraries in this case) have some responsibility when they sell/loan out these materials to minors.
I'm glad that KCLS believes in "free, open and equal access to ideas and information" but I think they need to rethink their practices. Shelving adult non-fiction and children's non-fiction together is ill-advised. Including "Hero Heel" with that is foolish. Allowing a ten year old girl to borrow yaoi is egregious.
That's a bad example (bordering on a strawman), because you're comparing a television set to a person and you can actually set up your TV so that certain channels are restricted to prevent children from viewing them. And of course a parent can actually set restrictions on their Internet browser to prevent their child from viewing inappropriate material. Also the guy actually did notice that his niece brought home yaoi.Playful Pony said:
A better example might be if a clerk at a video rental store lets a child without a parent/guardian borrow an excessively violent/sexually explicit video game rated MA 15+ or R 18+ and then the child takes it home.
I find myself saying this again, that I understood that this library had an automatic checkout system for the books? Or did I read that in some random post following. I don't actually know where I got that 'information' anymore... I know my local library has automatic checkout of books anyway. If there was an actual librarian between the girl and the door, looking at all the books... Then I would agree with your videogame comparison...Cyrus Hanley said:
Parents can't really supervise their kid's reading habits the way they can television or video games. I assume you don1t allow your kids their own TV in their room after all, so they have to go to the living room/parent's bedroom/etc to watch it. And you can place restrictions on it, as was mentioned above.
You can't do the same with books. You usually can't tell at first glance what a book is about, whether it contains explicitly violent/sexual stuff that is not 'appropriate' for children. Plus it takes time to read a book, free time which parents don't have. I remember when I was a kid, I would often read entire novels in a day or two then go back to the library for more. My mom couldn't have kept up with me if she wanted to!
But what parents CAN do is talk to their kids about what they consider appropriate to read. If my mom said to me "the way romance works in books is not the way it works in real life and you shouldn't let them shape your view on it until you're old enough to have some perspective" I'd have said "Okay" and went back to reading my adventure novels about cowboys and Indians.
I know most parents feel awkward about talking to their kids about sex, but it's better if they learn about it from an adult. At age 10, me and most of my age group already knew how the basic mechanics of sex worked anyway, even if we didn't get all the nuances. We had a vague idea of what the other sexs' genitals would look like and how they're supposed to fit together. At the time we didn't really dwell on it beyond "it's an adult thing, we'll figure out when we're older".
Parents don't like the idea of their preteens being aware of sex, but it's something kids are naturally curious about and will hear about from each other even if their parents refuse to discuss it. Kids don't need as much protection as adults nowadays seem to think they do. Children need to learn from their own mistakes even if it means they'll sometimes get a bit hurt.
When I was a kid I watched The Mummy, had nightmares for a week and that taught me not to watch horror flicks. I wasn't permanently damaged by it and I learned a valuable lesson about myself (I don't react well to horror). The next time my brothers put on a horror movie I turned tail and left the room to get back to my books (I think it was Resident Evil?). Lesson learned, end of story.
You can't do the same with books. You usually can't tell at first glance what a book is about, whether it contains explicitly violent/sexual stuff that is not 'appropriate' for children. Plus it takes time to read a book, free time which parents don't have. I remember when I was a kid, I would often read entire novels in a day or two then go back to the library for more. My mom couldn't have kept up with me if she wanted to!
But what parents CAN do is talk to their kids about what they consider appropriate to read. If my mom said to me "the way romance works in books is not the way it works in real life and you shouldn't let them shape your view on it until you're old enough to have some perspective" I'd have said "Okay" and went back to reading my adventure novels about cowboys and Indians.
I know most parents feel awkward about talking to their kids about sex, but it's better if they learn about it from an adult. At age 10, me and most of my age group already knew how the basic mechanics of sex worked anyway, even if we didn't get all the nuances. We had a vague idea of what the other sexs' genitals would look like and how they're supposed to fit together. At the time we didn't really dwell on it beyond "it's an adult thing, we'll figure out when we're older".
Parents don't like the idea of their preteens being aware of sex, but it's something kids are naturally curious about and will hear about from each other even if their parents refuse to discuss it. Kids don't need as much protection as adults nowadays seem to think they do. Children need to learn from their own mistakes even if it means they'll sometimes get a bit hurt.
When I was a kid I watched The Mummy, had nightmares for a week and that taught me not to watch horror flicks. I wasn't permanently damaged by it and I learned a valuable lesson about myself (I don't react well to horror). The next time my brothers put on a horror movie I turned tail and left the room to get back to my books (I think it was Resident Evil?). Lesson learned, end of story.
A lot of people are blaming the parents and others the library, but there doesn't seem to be many people questioning whether it matters that she checked out yaoi to begin with. Most people seem to accept that it's not appropriate for a ten year old to view such material, but why? Is there actually any evidence that seeing pornography is harmful to a child's development? Or is the outcry just people being reactionary hypocrites?
Maybe we should rename this month Gaytober.
Anyone else find it super ironic that a casual glance through any library will reveal books a hundred times more sexually graphic and violent than this? Hell, most of the books I was assigned to read in middle school make this crap look downright tame. I distinctly remember one novel, From the Notebooks of Melanin Sun, that follows a young boy struggling to cope with the idea of his mother being a lesbian. This was printed by Scholastic, a publisher who primarily prints stuff read by young adults.
I'm not saying contemporary fiction is the same as smutty manga, but holy shit. If you're the type who freaks out about children having their worldview changed by reading material, explain to me how pictures of cartoon boys fucking is more dangerous than Flowers In the Attic... a story with pages upon pages of incestual love.
Anyone else find it super ironic that a casual glance through any library will reveal books a hundred times more sexually graphic and violent than this? Hell, most of the books I was assigned to read in middle school make this crap look downright tame. I distinctly remember one novel, From the Notebooks of Melanin Sun, that follows a young boy struggling to cope with the idea of his mother being a lesbian. This was printed by Scholastic, a publisher who primarily prints stuff read by young adults.
I'm not saying contemporary fiction is the same as smutty manga, but holy shit. If you're the type who freaks out about children having their worldview changed by reading material, explain to me how pictures of cartoon boys fucking is more dangerous than Flowers In the Attic... a story with pages upon pages of incestual love.
Spot1990 said:
Whoops. Derp! I don't know how I caught the first part of that but not the second. My bad.LackingSanity said:
Thanks for the correction.
As a kid I often went to the library at first I was taken by my parents and later when Id shown I was responsible I could go on my own but id never dare trying to check out something adult as my parents would check my library card when I got back and ask what id booked out not just to check up but because they liked to take an interest in what I liked. On another note there are hundreds of what I would class as literary porn in any Library just take a look at the romance section.
Im wholeheartedly with the Library on this no content should be banned because one person doesn't think its the parents responsibility to decide and ensure there child dose not have access to material they feel is unsuitable
Im wholeheartedly with the Library on this no content should be banned because one person doesn't think its the parents responsibility to decide and ensure there child dose not have access to material they feel is unsuitable
The only measure I think should be used to "protect" children from reading material, is having them provide a form signed by one of their parents/guardians that confirms that the parent/guardian is the only one responsible for that, when they register for a library card.
Libraries, Theater, TV and the Internet are not Babysitter alternatives.
Libraries, Theater, TV and the Internet are not Babysitter alternatives.
This will come across as rather permissive, but -- is it really so bad to let a 10-year old girl read a yaoi manga if that's what interests her? No-one forced her to borrow it, if that's what sparks her interest, by all means let her read it of her own accord. If kids are taught sex ed at such an age, why is there such a taboo over something like this? Granted, the parents should have some discretion in deciding what is and isn't suitable for their children, but you can't wrap them in cotton wool.
I wouldn't say I'm against age ratings either, but they should be a parental guideline, not an absolute restriction.
I wouldn't say I'm against age ratings either, but they should be a parental guideline, not an absolute restriction.
