#111: Point Blank

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LordMonty

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Space marines can be very over powered but gunny is going to come out of this more battered than ever tbh.
 

Vern

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Ukomba said:
RatGouf said:
#40
Sword sliced through Tank Bullets & nothing happens.

#41
Sword stabs Tank Bullet then Gunny squeezes the Tank Bullet causing it to explode.

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I have no idea how gunpowder works....
Depending on the explosive, it's not always that easy to set them off, and for sure a shearing force from a sword wouldn't d o it. Gunny compressed the primer at the base which sets off the explosives. Not sure if compression like that would set off a primmer or if it's the percussive force that triggers the chemical reaction, but it's fantasy so oh well ;).
Percussive force sets off the primer. The center of a primer has to be impacted to ignite the gunpowder. It's called a firing pin, it snaps forward when the trigger is pulled, it impacts the primer which creates heat which ignites the gun-powder. Squeezing it will not do that. If anything, the saber going through the shell and the percussion cap should have caused detonation; as it pierced the percussion cap, the squeezing of the shell should not. Even then, the shell is out of a firing chamber, so the shell casing will just explode, fragmenting in a circle around it, and the round will drop off since it's too heavy to be propelled by an uncontrolled explosion, the round needs to be confined to a barrel to force it towards a target.

The whole thing is unrealistic, but it's fun. I like Gunny.
 

Ukomba

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Vern said:
Ukomba said:
RatGouf said:
#40
Sword sliced through Tank Bullets & nothing happens.

#41
Sword stabs Tank Bullet then Gunny squeezes the Tank Bullet causing it to explode.

....

I have no idea how gunpowder works....
Depending on the explosive, it's not always that easy to set them off, and for sure a shearing force from a sword wouldn't d o it. Gunny compressed the primer at the base which sets off the explosives. Not sure if compression like that would set off a primmer or if it's the percussive force that triggers the chemical reaction, but it's fantasy so oh well ;).
Percussive force sets off the primer. The center of a primer has to be impacted to ignite the gunpowder. It's called a firing pin, it snaps forward when the trigger is pulled, it impacts the primer which creates heat which ignites the gun-powder. Squeezing it will not do that. If anything, the saber going through the shell and the percussion cap should have caused detonation; as it pierced the percussion cap, the squeezing of the shell should not. Even then, the shell is out of a firing chamber, so the shell casing will just explode, fragmenting in a circle around it, and the round will drop off since it's too heavy to be propelled by an uncontrolled explosion, the round needs to be confined to a barrel to force it towards a target.

The whole thing is unrealistic, but it's fun. I like Gunny.
I was assuming a 100% shear force for the saber, given it's performance on the tank. Sure, in reality a sword would impart pressure as it cuts.

On a smaller scale, Myth busters has shown normal bullets will fire off, if less effectively, while outside a gun barrel.
 

TitanAura

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So I take it in the game logic, this was intended to be a "supposed to lose fight" that Gunny is just wrecking the difficulty curve of?