12-Year-Old Forced to Put Up Wii For Bail
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This post is disgusting. Its a kid, there is still plenty of time left in his life to turn it around, the information we have says he hasn't inflicted any permanent damage. Seriously, you want to lock up a kid for how you predict his future decisions will pan out? You've just determined that he will become a professional criminal, mentally/physically abused, or dead if you send him to an institution. The only time I could see sending a child to prison would be if they had committed proven beyond a doubt premeditated murder where the damages can't be repaired in some fashion to both the convicted and the victims. Also, try to remember, children sent to jail who survive the ordeal often complete their sentences and are released back into society having grown up knowing only that kind of out look on life for half or more of their life - do you really want a 30-40 year old who grew up as a caged predator? Not the kind of society I want to live in, I would rather try to give the kid some hope for some joy in their own life before they end up down that road.KnowYourOnion said:
Say no to Prison World.
He sounds like a little shit, the kind i hate and that you can tell will grow up later in life only to not have significance in any thing, just a failure. Take all his shit! MWHAHAHAHAAA!
Seconded. The justice department's job is to keep criminals off the streets, not to try to teach them morals. Plus if this kid is 12, he is always going to be like this.PayJ567 said:
"He's a 12-year-old who is generally quite scared." Bullshit. I worked in loss prevention for over 3 years and arrested hundreds of kids that age, and let me tell you if there's one thing this kid ISN'T, its scared. These little bastards know how to work the system, and thanks to the Young Offen- I mean the "Youth Criminal Justice Act" which has absolutley no teeth at all whatsoever and basically is a 'get out of jail free' card for young offenders, he won't do any jail time or receive any kind of punishment other than his Wii being used as bail.
He doesn't give a shit about the Wii no matter what the Judge thinks.
I mean good on the Judge for at least trying to think of a bail option suitable for a 12 year old, but this is no ordinary 12 year old. With sociopathic and violent behaviour so prevalent at such an early age, this kid needs some serious round the clock counselling and constant monitoring, and hopefully that's what he'll get and not just fall through the cracks like so many of the kids I busted did. The justice system in Canada is severely flawed, especially when it comes to juveniles.
When the "Young Offenders Act" became the "Youth Criminal Justice Act" those of us working in crime prevention were pretty much left to our own devices as to how to interpret it, with no help from the lawmakers other than a 3 page description of the changes to the act. (Of which there were few) When my agency approached the police for help, they were just as in the dark as we were. How much confidence in the law does that inspire?
Young offenders seem to think that as soon as they turn 18 everything gets wiped away all nice and shiny clean... It DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY. Yes your file gets sealed, but it never goes away. (At least not in Canada) All that means is that anything you did before you were 18 can not be held against you if you are charged with the same offense after you turn 18. It will still screw up your chances of ever travelling outside Canada, as other countries don't neccessarily have the same views on juvenile criminals as us. Also, trying to get a job where you need to be bondable, forget it. Getting a passport or a visa to travel outside the country? Good luck.
He doesn't give a shit about the Wii no matter what the Judge thinks.
I mean good on the Judge for at least trying to think of a bail option suitable for a 12 year old, but this is no ordinary 12 year old. With sociopathic and violent behaviour so prevalent at such an early age, this kid needs some serious round the clock counselling and constant monitoring, and hopefully that's what he'll get and not just fall through the cracks like so many of the kids I busted did. The justice system in Canada is severely flawed, especially when it comes to juveniles.
When the "Young Offenders Act" became the "Youth Criminal Justice Act" those of us working in crime prevention were pretty much left to our own devices as to how to interpret it, with no help from the lawmakers other than a 3 page description of the changes to the act. (Of which there were few) When my agency approached the police for help, they were just as in the dark as we were. How much confidence in the law does that inspire?
Young offenders seem to think that as soon as they turn 18 everything gets wiped away all nice and shiny clean... It DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY. Yes your file gets sealed, but it never goes away. (At least not in Canada) All that means is that anything you did before you were 18 can not be held against you if you are charged with the same offense after you turn 18. It will still screw up your chances of ever travelling outside Canada, as other countries don't neccessarily have the same views on juvenile criminals as us. Also, trying to get a job where you need to be bondable, forget it. Getting a passport or a visa to travel outside the country? Good luck.
I agree we have to take age into consideration, but the age of liability concerning crimes in Canada is, I believe, 12. Sure we're not going to lock him up in Kingston Maximum Security Penitentiary, but we do have juvenile holding cells for a reason. We can't let this child run around committing these kind of acts and just saying "Oh Billy is just a 12 year old, cut him some slack" until he really hurts someone to the extent of causing grievous bodily harm.
Now back on topic, I have to say if I was a twelve year old acting up, getting my nintendo 64 taken away would more anger me and encourage me to commit more of these heinous acts than make me say "Golly gee! If I want back my video games I better become a good cookie and stop all this violence"... Then again I'm not sure if there is anything that would make me say Golly gee or good cookie
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Now back on topic, I have to say if I was a twelve year old acting up, getting my nintendo 64 taken away would more anger me and encourage me to commit more of these heinous acts than make me say "Golly gee! If I want back my video games I better become a good cookie and stop all this violence"... Then again I'm not sure if there is anything that would make me say Golly gee or good cookie
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The judge disciplined him in a way that his parents should have done a long time ago. The kid and his parents have serious problems if it's come this far.
All I have to say is that the whole using a Wii for bail is one of the most funny things I've heard all day. Now I know what to use as a bartering tool when the economy collapses, Wiis, booze and duct tape.
Speaking as a juvenile this kid has it way to easy. I met an 8 year old in my town once hassled the crap outta me & my friends but none of dared to touch him because he'd go call us in for some BS (8 year old vs. the mean teenage skaters in the park). These kids need to be taught actions have consequences other than getting the punishment equivalent of giving your dinner to the dog & lying about it.
