13 Year Old Parent

[bjj hero]

Im going to tell my son at the age of nine that there is teeth in there... job done.

Honestly, Im going to work towards a compound we can put in the water supply that will render people infirtile. Youd have to get a cure from the Doctor before you could start a family.

thats dumb..tell him that if he has sex under the age of 18 you will force the women to get an abortion, he could not financially support a child

I wasnt being literal. Do you think that story would last 5 minutes of school play ground chat?

Everyone will be eating their words when baby Maisie grows up to be a genius.

Ill consider it a win if she finishes High school and manage a maths, english and science GCSE. She will be 3rd generation unemployed.

 

[pigmonkey]

EDIT: Added FoxNews link

for shame.

on topic, i have 1 word that pretty much sums up the entire situation, disterbing.

 

[Kadamon]

Use. Protection. Damn. It.
Needs. More. Sex. Education.

Exactly

(is it just me, or is your avatar a mockery of the 4th dimension?)

 

[axia777]

It seems that this case just got a little weirder. Now it all looks like a Jerry Springer show! Or maybe a Montel show. They need to do a DNA test to see who is the real father.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/europe/02/15/boy.baby.dad.england/index.html

Second boy claims to be dad in UK baby case

(CNN) -- A second teenager has reportedly claimed to be the father of a child born to a teenaged girl in a case which has caused an outcry in Britain.
British Conservative party leader David Cameron has expressed his dismay over the case.

British Conservative party leader David Cameron has expressed his dismay over the case.

According to reports earlier this week Alfie Patten was only 12 when the baby was conceived with his girlfriend, Chantelle Steadman, 15.

The Sun tabloid newspaper reported their daughter, Maisie Roxanne, was born on Monday.

It carried photos and interviews with the pair and their child on Friday and Saturday.

Alfie told the newspaper that he thought "it would be good to have a baby."

While Chantelle said they wanted to "prove to everyone" that they could give Maisie a "great future" and that they both planned to stay in school.

However, on Sunday the Sun's sister paper, the News of the World, reported that Richard Goodsell, aged 16, was claiming he was Maisie's father.

"I know I could be the father. Everyone thinks I am. My friends all tell me that baby has my eyes -- even my mum thinks so.

"Only a DNA test is going to sort this out properly. If I am the father, I have the right to know," he told the News of the World.

The situation has provoked a wide response, with Conservative party leader David Cameron telling the British Press Association that parenthood should not be something the teenagers should even have been contemplating.

Prime Minister Gordon Brown said "all of us would want to avoid teenage pregnancies," PA reported.

Tony Kerridge, of the sexual health specialist Marie Stopes International, told PA that children needed better education.

The response from CNN readers ranged from outrage to questions about whether the situation was actually rare.

Allyson said exactly the same thing had happened in her home town.

"Well, this is not news to my area. We had this same thing happen five years ago. Same aged boy and girl. They had a little girl. The dad graduated from high school the year before his daughter started kindergarten! He has full custody as the mom has moved out of town and had another child. I am glad the family has supported this child even though the 'parents' didn't make a good decision in having a child so young."

Martha said she found the situation "very sad."

"I did not become a mom until I was 24 and it was still a struggle. I think these children's parents should be held accountable. Where were they? These kids have no idea what their lives will be like, finish school! Only if they are very lucky with a good support system."

Becky was dismayed.

"This just shocks me and makes me sick... they are still kids! Only 13 and 15 year old! So where are their parents?"

 

[beddo]

Recently, a 13 year old British boy became a father to his 15 year old girlfriends baby. I won't say too much because the article isn't long, so I'll leave it up to you to read about it. I just want to know, is this one of the worst things that society has done to it's youth?

http://tinyurl.com/13yroldparent <--The Sun link
http://tinyurl.com/cejoy6 <--FoxNews link

Also, I think that the child should be taken from them, mainly because of this:
"When asked how he is going to cope financially, Alfie replied, bemused, 'What's financially?'"

EDIT: Added FoxNews link

What I find unbelievable is that when the mother turns 16, they can move in together. Her boyfriend will not be recognised as that, she would become his carer and be able to claim benefits for the baby and the boyfriend.

[link]http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2238185.ece[/link]

What amazes me is the idea that they would be allowed to. If the have any sexual relations once she turns 16 it is statutory rape. Surely the authorities would have to stop them being allowed to see each other when she becomes 16 as she would be a likely sex offender, a predatory one at that.

 

[beddo]

Oh lord. The mind boggles. I'm surprised each family isn't suing the other for rape or something... unless the laws in the UK are differnet. I know in the US, if two people consent to sex, but are both underaged, technically, it's rape, and each family can be sued by the other. Is that how it works in the UK, or not?

Unfortunately not. To me it is child abuse, the parents did nothing to stop their children's relationship.

As they are both under 16 neither of them is legally the carer of the child. As the parents have shown a blatant disregard for their own children's welfare they should not be granted custody either.

The children are culpable of committing a crime as any person over 10 years is in the UK. In which case the parents should be jailed for neglect. The boy and girl should be placed into a young offenders institute with the girl having to sign the sex offenders register. The child should go to an adoptive family.

Sadly, UK law does not actually have a crime for female rape against males. A woman cannot be guilty of raping a man. Obviously the authorities haven't seen the hilarious peep show where a woman get the jump on Mark while he's sleeping.

 

[Onyx Oblivion]

I'll take the baby...and care for it, of course.

 

[beddo]

What really annoys me is the sexism behind this case. If the father was 15 and the mother was 13 the father would be prosecuted for statutory rape. It is that simple.

We live in a highly misandrist society.

 

[beddo]

Yeah he shouldn't be allowed to raise the child, he clearly would have no idea how to.
I think the parents should be arrested for doing such a poor job on raising the two of them. Problem is, the person who is going to suffer is the child & not the parents of the child or the mother & father.

If the child is placed with a suitable family who can offer a loving and caring home then the child will be a lot better off than with this abusive family.

Mark my words, if this baby stays with the family he will grow up to be a lout.

 

[Cpt_Oblivious]

I understand that the girl might be having sex, and of course contraception should have been drilled into their minds, but for Christ's sake, this boy was twelve when he had sex! Twelve! Screw contraception, he shouldn't legally be able to have sex!

I think 12 or under means it's legally rape...

 

[Sennz0r]

This is exactly what happens when parents drop the ball on their children. Come on he's 13 years old for god's sake. What's he doing having sex in the fist place? Where were his parents to keep him from getting these kind of ideas so soon? How do you explain this next time you go visit grandma?

I'm worried about the future of this kid. If that's the baby's father then what are the values his kid is going to grow up with? Not to mention all other kinds of support the kid won't be able to arrange because he still needs to finish (maybe even start) high school

 

[Ionami]

Pfft...

Only 13? Why I was on kid No. 3 by the time I was 9.

"The dad graduated from high school the year before his daughter started kindergarten!"

Oh my god.

 

[meglathon]

I wish I had the right words to say but, come on, WTF is going on in britan...

 

[cuddly_tomato]

My god! People have sex at 13! The outrage!

Seriously folks come on, it wasn't that much older (if indeed it even was older) when we started. These two just weren't particularly careful.

Try teaching contraception here. I fucking dare you. The schools would be burned to the ground and you'd be lynched before you could say "Kids please don't fuck without condoms okay?"
That's just personal experience, though. As I've bitched about way too often, Florida is filled with psychotic religious people, instead of the quieter, more tolerable kind I prefer.

I'd say less religious than it is more religious-right. Your opponent forms a policy of sex education for the young, you then call it the work of the devil, that sex is EEEVVVIIILLL and that your opponent is dangerous and should not be voted in or order to grab votes from the fundy Bible thumpers who still live in the 12th century.

Of course, having done that means you can't form any kind of sex education policy yourself, or else your own opponent would call that hypocracy. And even if there was sex education, what are the chances of the self-righteous criminals we call "politicians" passing laws allowing minors to get their hands on condoms? No votes in that are there? And Fox news would destroy them for it.

 

[P1p3s]

the lunacy is that 2 other boys have come forward claiming to be the father, now the council is paying the £300 for the DNA test!

One of the other boys is 16 (the only one in all of this over/at the age of consent) and that makes him a dumbass because he could be prosecuted for statutory rape!

there are just numbnuts abound in this story

EDIT: plus this is all in the UK, there really isn't the religious issues in our schools, they would have had sex education, contraception advice, that girl can go on the pill here for free with no parental consent, there are clinics in every town that give out free condoms to people under 18. I think our issue is we're too 'mechanical' there is all the education you need on HOW to do it, but nothing on the emotional implications of being in a physical relationship with someone else. But believe you me we are all made fully aware of disease and pregnancy and yet the UK has the highest teenage pregnancy in europe.

Everytime we take the 'sex education' to a younger age, the people having babies get younger - has no one noticed this correlation!!

 

[fireice56]

thats why when they teach sex ed.
they should talk about protection.

 

[Scarecrow38]

The family of the girl has 6 kids or something and are on welfare. I don't know about the boy's family. What amazes me is how the parents let this happen. Even if they are in love can't they see the damage this has done to their childhood, primarily that this has really ended it. The parents (strange name for a 13 and 15 year old) basically have to kiss their innocence behind and start caring for this baby... I just don't see how they can do it.

An interesting side note was just how many boys the girl has slept with... there are reports of at least 8 other boys saying they'd done her....

All in all this is one of those things that people are going to be saying "This is what's wrong with society!" about for a very long time.

 

[SenseOfTumour]

Zirnitra, your post bemuses me. Surely the fact that education is compelled upon all is to the advantage of all, in particular employers as it ensures their employees will be relatively coherent, have a basic understanding of mathematics and in general will not be utterly useless?

The amount of 'benifit spongers' and beggers we have nowadays is actually lower than the number of beggers we had during the 1890s, a period of much lower population denisty and the height of Britain's Imperial Power. Sorry, but benifit spongers are an absurdly low number of people, despite what the tabloids want you to think.

Damn it's nice to hear one person say that, I actually am on one benefit myself, and along with being overweight, that seems to put me as public enemy #1, who cares about rapists and drug runners, that guy's carrying a cheeseburger the state paid for!

I very much appreciate the fact that the system covers those who need it, and while it can be abused, and needs some tightening up, I'd rather pay a few people who didn't deserve it, than see some needy people miss out on the help they should be getting.

It only takes a couple of bits of bad luck to go from successful to nothing, people should consider that before they want to scrap the entire welfare system because of a tabloid news story.

Also, the Sun needs to remember its target audience is probably quite a lot of the people it attacks.

As for Romeo and Juliet being 14, that didn't work out so good, if I remember rightly

I'm not surprised by this tale at all tho, a lot of kids are experimenting younger and younger now, and the parents need to talk to their kids about these things if they don't want to be babysitting their grandchildren because their kid has to go to school.

Sure we need better in school sex ed, but the parents need to do some of the work too.

 

[johnman]

The other is hes one of 3 possibile fathers, One of the other guys did her 3 times, the others are 14 and 16, thye have much more chance of being the father than him, he doesnt even look old enoughto have pubes.

 

[x434343]

Christ, one of my shortest friends is taller than the father. That means something is terribly wrong.

I still don't know what to think.