Agayek said:
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spartan231490 said:
Please tell me you're not serious. Just please. Pretty much everything on this list is wrong for so many humanitarian reasons, or simply logistical reasons.
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Really?
1) Amazing things come from religion, there are thousands of people who find purpose in life, not to mention comfort, in religion. The problem comes from power-hungry men, and if not religion, they will just become politicians(Hitler). Logistically, you can't ban people from thinking/believing anything, it doesn't work. If I tell you not to think about elephants, what do you do?
Not think about elephants. Its not that hard. I'll just think about something else. Like video games. Also, religion is the future is never good for anyone. Hell, its not even good for the aliens.
People find comfort in lies too, but that stop me from telling them the truth.
2) Logistically, every compartment is there for a reason, and jettisoning it will leave you poorly able to perform that purpose. Ejecting the power generation, life support, or engineering sections will leave you hard pressed to survive. Also, how do you eject a compartment in the middle of a ship, while leaving compartments on either side connected. Possible, but difficult. Also, if the whatever it is spreads too quickly, you might have to split the ship into 3 sections, good, good, and bad. Also, giving every compartment exterior hull grade walls would be expensive as hell. Humanitarianly, it's kinda obvious that ejecting innocent people when there might be a monster or something among them is at best, a last resort.
Expense? Thats what slave/prisoner labor and drones are for.
Also, risk vs. consequence. Do I send more people to check on something that has already proven capable of killing people, or I just jettison the entire block, maybe blow it up, save my self some trouble and replace the crew I lost. I bet you the not-dead-by-aliens people on my ships would thank me, ingrate.
3) Space is the most valuable commodity on any isolated vessel like a space ship, dedicating 45% to power generation would dramatically increase costs and decrease functionality, for something that would only be useful in extreme circumstances. It would also make your power systems, which are almost definitely volatile, easy to hit and cause explosions that could rip your ship apart in ship to ship combat. two, three at most, different power sources, far separated from each other, is more than sufficient.
Again, see slaves/prisoners and robot drones for cost problems. In addition, I could just jettison any damage or infected power plants. And if they explode, killing everyone on board, including the problem, well thats a bonus. Killing the aliens is more important than saving the people; since in the long run you save more people by killing the aliens.
4) Desecrating corpses, horrible for so many humanitarian reasons. Also, what about resuscitation, you would cause so many premature deaths with this idea. Also, any transmissions from said tag would make the person easy for potential enemies to track.
Desecration? They're dead. They don't care, because they are incapable of caring anymore, with the while being dead thing and all.
And so what if I like to know where everyone is at one time or another? Makes it easy for me to tell where the aliens are.
5) Once again, logistics. With navigation, I can agree, but with auto-pilot, every human on the vessel is a level of redundancy. In-system redundancy is a waste of valuable space.
Not if everyone who knows how to fly is dead its not.
6) Military tech will be much, much more effective in 99% of all situations. For the other situations, power tools shouldn't be too hard to find. Industrial tools are also much more bulky, and very heavy.
Against things that cannot be "shocked" or "awed", military technology is startlingly ineffective.
7) From a humanitarian view, this is killing every potential survivor with a "purge" which might not even kill any invaders. If you vent to space, invaders may have suits, if you napalm the vessel, the enemy might not be vulnerable to fire, ect. The human body is extremely fragile, even in terrestrial terms. We have no idea what would or wouldn't harm any alien organisms. Besides, you can already blow up/overload the power system and destroy the vessel and do more harm to anything inside than any purge function.
When they say "purge" they mean fire, venting, etc. When I say "purge", I'm using it as a synonym for "explode with nuclear weapons".
8) Logistically, how could you stop them. An AI would have infinite patience and much more conscious processing power than any human, containing them in almost any system almost impossible, especially if those systems are controlled by individual humans who might not care about the law, or just make a simple mistake. Better off to never create AI.
By limiting their logic, imposing operation restrictions and self-defeating directives, and making sure that anyone who attempts to modify equipment housing AI is killed on the spot, preferably by fire.
9) Soooo many false alarms. Should we have squadrans of fighter jets patrolling the night skies everywhere someone was "abducted by aliens?" We would run out of aircraft before we covered a quarter of the locations, especially if you count seeing strange lights.
There are false alarms. There are warnings, and then shit goes down.
10) I am an engineering student, you would be amazed how stupid a lot of engineers are. I mean, have you seen some of the cities and intersections that engineers designed? Also, this pretty much eliminates all choice for anyone who isn't an engineer, not very humanitarian.
Do I strike you as much of a humanitarian?
11) What if it's an airborne contagion? what if it's a vessel and the predators are equipping their shoulder cannons? Too many variables to do anything but look at it. We should, however, quarantine it immediately and only check it out under the heaviest security possible in a reasonable amount of time.
No. No touch. If acts in anyway hostile or dangerous, cleanse it with fire. Preferably nuclear fire.
12) Just, humanitarian. Humanitarian. You know how many coworkers, or classmates fall in love every day? How many people just chilling at bars? Try to stop it, I dare you. You'd just drive them underground. Also, "interpersonal relationships" can provide just as much motivation as distraction, and are almost always more harm then good.
Exactly. Thank you for agreeing. In emergency or crisis situations, personal relationships do in fact cause more harm than good.
13) Just wow, not have an emergency team of marines on hand to save the children, but explosives rigged to blow them up. HUMANITARIAN NIGHTMARE.
Marines are more valuable than children. Also, I save them the nightmare of being horribly slaughtered by alien monsters.
14) Space, space, and more space. This is impossible, and wouldn't help in a real life situation. Guess what: when you get stabbed with a sword-shaped alien arm, you can't just slap a band-aide on it and move on. As I said before, human beings are fragile creatures, any trauma is much more likely to kill you then leave you able to fix it alone, or even with a surgeon for that matter. Also, most medical supplies would have to be devoted to treating diseases anyway.
You're not putting a band-aid on it; you're filling it with a synthetic biological substance that seals the wound, provides painkilling and restores limited mobility. Also, its a little wall-mounted box; they don't take up much space.
15) Yes, chest/face high walls are useful, but you can't magically deploy any solid walls without wasting a high amount of immensely valuable space.
It comes out the damn floor. The only thing under it would be pipes or vents; I didn't they had to be completely solid either.
Yes really.
