15 year old girl kills herself after persistent bullying

[Draxz]

I will say one thing to this... And that's "She's dead, you talking about it isn't going to change the fucking world!" Not to the OC but to the people reporting this.

Also, I agree, it really does just piss me off that someone couldn't and wouldn't help. Yes. Wouldn't. It's all nice and everything when people say "I tried" but clearly not enough to save a teenager's life. To be honest, I find it stupid and up-most pathetic what the police even tried to do! This was an invasion of a teenage girl's privacy and if not anything but Child Pornography. It honestly sickens me to think that nobody stopped "Todd" from taking alcohol, drugs and etc. Speaking of which, it sickens me even more that people, such as the male-friend's girlfriend was so jealous and a snarly ***** that she had all the brutality to actually fight a girl, that was clearly in self-destruction.

I just wish the police or the PSA of this would actually stretch as far as TO FUCKING DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!!

I honestly hate the fact that people are so useless and pathetic that they can't seem to say anything further than "Be considerate" Or "Think before you speak" and "Put yourself in someone else's shoes." As if they completely miss the whole meaning and concept!

It's as if they pretend to care more than genuinely care.

"Sorry" doesn't bring dead people back.

 

[Mayamellissa]

It's hard to stick up to pressure and like most kids, she gave in and flashed someone. Some asshole who apparently is still running around and not in prison for several felonies (because if you look at what he did they were obviously felonies) got her information then decided "I'm gonna go ahead and ruin another person's life because I'm so fucking repulsive not even sex toys want to fuck me." I am so sick of people thinking they are safe to go ahead and destroy another person because it will make them feel better or more powerful.

If anybody finds this guy let's post all his info and pictures around the net with a nice little target over it explaining what he's done. He won't feel so safe and mighty when people start vandalizing his shit or assaulting him. But a warning: please if you do get it - make sure it's the right guy. We don't need an incident where a bunch of morons get all riled up and get the wrong person. Again.

 

[dancinginfernal]

Eaten by Darwin, plain and simple.

Flashing on webcam? Getting into drugs/alcohol? Everyone goes through some form of bullying or the other. It doesn't sound like she was being abused by her family. It doesn't sound like she was in poverty, or a double-amputee with a bleak shot at life.

Therefore I have no sympathies for her. I DO have sympathies for her family however, for experiencing the loss of a daughter.

She's twelve.

Twelve.

She has no worldly experience, and only people's words to go off of in regards to the dangers of certain actions. She acts impulsively, sure. Reckless, careless, rebellious, sure. But she makes a mistake, and deserves to die for it?

By what fucking logic does that make? This isn't a gene pool inferiority, it's ignorance and unwarranted retaliation for it. If a woman willingly ignores warning signs of death, and enters a construction site and dies for it, that's one thing. This girl flashed once, and was criticized and publicly humiliated for it by everybody she knew. She tried to kill herself once, and people endorsed that she do so again.

And she did. This is a goddamn tragedy and I won't let you act like she deserved it, it's an insult to her and her family.

 

[Chinchama]

This is one of those things were everyone is in the wrong. She is responsible for actions. Even at 12-15 yrs old, you should know whats appropriate and whats not appropriate to show to others online. Also, you should not be sexually active at that age...which she was. These things are her fault for trying to fit in pre-bullying and bending to peer pressure.

Her parents should have done more with the police about finding the guy who got all of this information, she mentions in her video that the police and her family were in contact with each other. With her parents knowing why she was moving from one to the other, you would think they would have monitored her online activity a bit more and seen her cry for help. Her parents could have been there to stick up for her and defend her more and educate her properly on whats right and wrong to do at her age.

It is the bullies fault for being the type of person everyone would look at with loathing disappointment that humanity could have produced someone this vile. Stalking a child and blackmailing in desperation of physical desire is the lowest thing someone can do. She was peer pressured into suicide. This is the bullies fault.

Her friends, at least the people who are tweeting and facebooking her pages saying they miss hanging out with her, where were they when she was beaten in a ditch? Why did none of her "friends" stand up for her. These people are saying their apologies because they feel guilty for doing nothing and because they did nothing, this is their fault too.

Everyone who knew her, including herself are to blame for this situation, it took a culmination of all this things to bring her to the end, if anyone one part of this chain had broken she could possibly still be here. Moral of the story, know the difference between whats appropriate and whats not, tell youngsters how to behave on the internet, check in on your children and pay close attention to their lives, dont be a dick, anddd if you see something wrong take a stand against it....STOP SUCKING AT THINGS GENERAL PUBLIC /end rant

 

[Doom972]

That's horrible. Nobody can do anything for her now, but judging from this article some of the people involved should be behind bars. It doesn't matter whether they are sorry, have learned something, want a second chance, etc - these kind of people need to be made examples of.

 

[Nap_Time]

You know the things is, her suicide worked two ways. First, she is dead (CAPTAIN OBVIOUS AWAY). Second, everyone who was mean to her will have regret for the rest of their lives. The second is quite funny because although one life was lost the calamities of the others will soon follow since they will have immense guilt. So, expect to see a lot of "youglings" in the Vancouver area have depression or try to "apologize" for their misdeeds.

The girl is partly at fault for this chain of events. She never should have "flashed" herself to a stranger on the internet. Even after this she could have took preventative measures. She could have phoned the police, she could have gotten the police to track down the IP and shut it off or they could have confiscate all of the person's electronic items. This may not have succeeded in stopping the leak but it sure as hell would have made it a more serious problem and would have intimidated the person who was trying to leak said images.

The boy who harbored the picture was an idiot. He could have been sent to jail for 3 crimes: blackmail, child pornography, and cyber bullying. How he was not apprehended is astounding. The lack of measures taken by the girl's family and the police is irresponsible.

 

[waj9876]

So. I refuse to watch the video, as I hate being horribly depressed and pissed off at the same time. So I'm basing my comment on what others have said.

People ARE facing child pornography charges for this, right? Her bullies had nude, or at least sexual in some nature images of a 12 year old child, right?

 

[Nap_Time]

So. I refuse to watch the video, as I hate being horribly depressed and pissed off at the same time. So I'm basing my comment on what others have said.

People ARE facing child pornography charges for this, right? Her bullies had nude, or at least sexual in some nature images of a 12 year old child, right?

They should be facing 3 charges: child pornography, blackmail, and cyber bullying.
The problem is that if they are minors there may be a problem in trying to press charges.

Captcha: what cereal is "super delicious"? The fuck captcha this isn't the time for jokes.

 

[GildaTheGriffin]

Personally, I find it stupid that kids kill themselves just because what someone said to her or talked about her behind her back. It's one of those challenges that we all live through and we either fight it or ignore it. But no, they go and kill themselves. Fine, hope it's what she wanted. You know... wanted her parents to grieve, and her friends to miss her, and to give up on life like a weakling.

She'll be missed by those who loved her, but I will be ashamed as she was not strong enough to take the judgement of others. I was bullied too, but learned they only wanted me to be stronger and resistant, and learn to have self confidence and backbone. There is thousands of different bullies, but she should have not killed herself to show that she was strong or had a since of pride.

Rest in peace, young girl, for the Lord may give you strength that you never had.

 

[Sean951]

I seeing a lot of people on both sides of this issue who didn't bother to watch her video... Yes, it started with the terrible decision on a pre-teen girl, but it wound up with her getting beaten up, drinking bleach and surviving followed by a school/city transfer at which point she was getting people taunting her and saying she should try harder. It's pretty god damn hard to defend the bullies when they went that far out of their way to torment her.

 

[Loonyyy]

[Snipped Guppy and Generals etc]
Yes but flashing people while stupid and irresponsible is not a malicious act disseminating a picture that is clearly meant to be private to everyone in a direct attempt to humiliate and upset the person clearly is a malicious act not to mention that it kept happening over and over that does not suggest guilt or remorse from the person responsible.

This guy gets it. Seriously, if you want to go ahead comparing the two.

Both are stupid decisions made by people who are known for making stupid decisions.

But there's a difference in what they did.

-Flashing is not a malicious thing. It hurts you, and you alone. In fact, from a purely simplistic point of view, it's intended to make the other person happy, no?

-Blackmail is a malicious attempt to influence the will of another person against their consent, and actively causes harm to that person, with the intent of often causing more harm.

-Bullying is a malicious act intended on injuring the self-esteem of others.

Whilst all of these could be "stupid mistakes", we judge the ones that were done with the intent of hurting people as bad, even if they're stupid mistakes. We can let stupid actions slide, but we don't let malicious ones go. The idea that what she did was wrong in any way is what is addressed by the "Stupid mistake". The idea that she should be responsible for the criminal acts of others taking advantage of her choice is what's being addressed by the term, "stupid mistake". It's not a justification for crime, and you can't make the comparison, because she did not commit a crime, so far as I'm aware.

Unrelated:

People who keep saying that suicide is somehow the "weak" option. Have you the guts to rip out your veins with a blade? Have you the guts to die choking on your own frothing saliva after overdosing on pills? Have you the nerve to watch the world fade to black as you dangle from a rope? No? You're scared of the pain? (I know I am). You think that something better might happen, so you don't want to do it? Isn't that cowardice, though? You're to weak to make that choice, so you're taking the bet on the future? You can't boil it down to a measure of courage, no matter how much stronger it makes you feel. "I haven't killed myself, so I'm pretty brave. I'm pretty brave to just keep doing what I'm doing." Screw that. I take the stance that bravery is a part of agency. You can only be brave if you're making a choice to do something different. Just carrying on is not brave. We all do that, and it's not an active decision. I'm not saying there's anything heroic about suicide, but it's certainly not cowardice.

You may consider it a bad decision, and you may think that the people who do it have poorly considered their options, but stop saying it's cowardice, please. It makes you look callous, prideful and ignorant. It's a lot harder to kill yourself than you'd think. And it's a decision that deserves sympathy and the respect that the decision is theirs to make, and the decision they make is the one that they want, and should not be condemmed. At the very least, it doesn't deserve condemnation from people who would lack the courage to do it themselves.

 

[Okulossos]

I guess the main problem we actually face here is that kids need a better education concerning media. They simply do not comprehend what the internet is and that it is not their private stash noone is able to look at. She could not have known that something like that can happen, but she should have.
This is where parenting and schooling failed to educate and prepare for the world.
But I am not blaming the parents (at least nor for that, BUT I do blame them for not seeing the trouble their child was is) or the school, because they don't know any better either. The internet is so new and so unpredictable that people who know about it should be called to schools to teach the teachers and the parents.

But in the end suicide is not a proper solution. Everyone has major problems and I have been in that situation in my childhood as well. Being bullied is not a reason to kill yourself. I might seem like an eternity, but it does stop and it get better - a lot better.
Jumping of the train of life because of a bumpy ride just seems... I don't know... sad or somehow cowardly even though it is a strong decision... you can see I am fighting for the right words here.

I just think it would be much more satisfying to show them that you can stand it and come out on top.

 

[emeraldrafael]

As much as id like to be upset, and really, I do feel sympathy for the family having lost her and her friends, im afraid im just too desensitized.

 

[Extra-Ordinary]

I seeing a lot of people on both sides of this issue who didn't bother to watch her video... Yes, it started with the terrible decision on a pre-teen girl, but it wound up with her getting beaten up, drinking bleach and surviving followed by a school/city transfer at which point she was getting people taunting her and saying she should try harder. It's pretty god damn hard to defend the bullies when they went that far out of their way to torment her.

I'm with you.
This thing chased her everywhere and she put up with so much for so long...
No one should have to be hounded like she was for a mistake like that.

 

[Nouw]

I guess the main problem we actually face here is that kids need a better education concerning media.

I wouldn't be so quick to blame the school. While I can't speak for the school in her area, I've been taught about cyber-bullying from the age of 10 and my new school still gives us annual talks on the dangers of cyberbullying and particularly social networking sites. There are many organizations, made years ago mind you, dedicated to raising awareness of cyberbullying and fighting it. Of course it could be a really shitty school but I have doubts they didn't provide their students with some kind of information.

 

[Aaron Sylvester]

She's twelve.

Twelve.

She has no worldly experience, and only people's words to go off of in regards to the dangers of certain actions. She acts impulsively, sure. Reckless, careless, rebellious, sure. But she makes a mistake, and deserves to die for it?

By what fucking logic does that make? This isn't a gene pool inferiority, it's ignorance and unwarranted retaliation for it. If a woman willingly ignores warning signs of death, and enters a construction site and dies for it, that's one thing. This girl flashed once, and was criticized and publicly humiliated for it by everybody she knew. She tried to kill herself once, and people endorsed that she do so again.

And she did. This is a goddamn tragedy and I won't let you act like she deserved it, it's an insult to her and her family.

I thought she was 15 at the time she gave up on life? And what's this "but she makes a mistake, and deserves to die for it" rubbish? She took her own life on her own will. She's just one of many teens who have done the same.

Go to fucking India, be a child who the entire family relies on for food/shelter forced into work since the age of 10, and then you fail your college exams due to be overworked and everyone is disappointed with you, you're basically fucked and your family is going to die. Now THAT guy has a decent reason to say "life has screwed me, I can't go on". I have been born in poverty-stricken areas, I have seen hardships that will make your eyes pop out, I have seen children burdened with the responsibility of adults and make it through life.

So excuse me for feeling no sympathy for a 15 year old who kills herself because someone bullied her online and she got beaten up a few times.
One day I will take show my child the side of the world where life is difficult and make him/her realize how lucky they are not to be going through that. Then they will respect life.

Unless you somehow didn't realize that this was a small child (twelve when tricked into flashing, fifteen at the time of death) who made a tiny mistake in her life, only to get constantly blackmailed, deceived, shunned by everyone and beaten for years, you're a disgusting human being.

Don't be so quick to judge me. I have seen my share of tough life as a teen, and I have known people who have gone through far worse things than what she went through.
They pulled through it just fine on their own.

I'm sorry for sounding like such a "jerk" guys, but...yeah...my experiences have made me who I am. Travel around the world a bit, be with people who have a REAL reason to suicide.

 

[Okulossos]

I guess the main problem we actually face here is that kids need a better education concerning media.

I wouldn't be so quick to blame the school. While I can't speak for the school in her area, I've been taught about cyber-bullying from the age of 10 and my new school still gives us annual talks on the dangers of cyberbullying and particularly social networking sites. There are many organizations, made years ago mind you, dedicated to raising awareness of cyberbullying and fighting it. Of course it could be a really shitty school but I have doubts they didn't provide their students with some kind of information.

Would you kindly... read the rest of my post?

And no, cybermobbing is very poorly researched and even more poorly communicated and that is a fact you can read about in any well researched article on that topic out there.

 

[Nouw]

I guess the main problem we actually face here is that kids need a better education concerning media.

I wouldn't be so quick to blame the school. While I can't speak for the school in her area, I've been taught about cyber-bullying from the age of 10 and my new school still gives us annual talks on the dangers of cyberbullying and particularly social networking sites. There are many organizations, made years ago mind you, dedicated to raising awareness of cyberbullying and fighting it. Of course it could be a really shitty school but I have doubts they didn't provide their students with some kind of information.

Would you kindly... read the rest of my post?

And no, cybermobbing is very poorly researched and even more poorly communicated and that is a fact you can read about in any well researched article on that topic out there.

Hmm...I am seeing what you mean by cybermobbbing, as in the whole anonymous business but I'm not sure if that's completely necessary. The presentations and talks discuss the dangers of the internet, such as posting explicit photos of yourself, and through dramatizations show what can happen. But more importantly, they discuss what you can do such as telling your parent, a teacher or the site or mobile provider. Understanding the threat better can help but isn't knowing the dangers and how to counter them enough? Or am I missing the point of cybermobbing?

Oh and thanks for not being an ass about my laziness by the way.