289: My Nintendo Shame

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Magnalian

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edthehyena said:
Magnalian said:
According to the news article on this site, Team Meat looked into getting published on-disk for the Wii, and the publishers they spoke to advised against it because only Nintendo games do well on the Wii. I wasn't talking about the WiiWare store.
Oh, right. Forgot about that little tidbit, sorry! :p
 

RelexCryo

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PlasticTree said:
Meh. This isn't a bad article, but it would have been far more relevant two years ago. Now it doesn't say anything new, plus Nintendo had some truly great 'hardcore' games this year, even though they weren't too innovative.

Personally I'm quite satisfied with what they are doing. I don't care how good their casual games (or their competitor's casual games) are, as long as they release some truly great games once in a while. And no, 2010 wasn't Nintendo's most innovative year. But in the past few years they have come up with the ds, the Wii, some absolutely great and revolutionary games for both systems, and within a few months they'll come up with the 3ds and Kid Icarus, which is basically a new franchise.

I'm not saying that Nintendo is flawless or anything, but I don't think there's a reason to be ashamed when you're still cheering for a new Nintendogame.
Kid Icarus, a new franchise? I played Kid Icarus on the NES way back a long time ago. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kid_Icarus
 

PlasticTree

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RelexCryo said:
Kid Icarus, a new franchise? I played Kid Icarus on the NES way back a long time ago. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kid_Icarus
Note: I said 'basically'. I played the original Kid Icarus myself, but I have a hard time calling this new 3ds game part of a franchise, since the only other game in that 'franchise' is 20+ years old and, well, totally different. They are two games that use the same name and character, but all the benefits that come with 'playing it safe by releasing a sequel' don't apply here, since most potential customers didn't beat Medusa all those years ago.
 

Adam Galli

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I used to be a Nintendo fanboy through and through. I have more NES games than any other system. When I bought my Gamecube I had no intentions of getting an Xbox or PS2, however, looking at the differences in games being released on the platforms, I went out and bought a PS2. As for this console generation, I have lots of fun with my 360 and I just have to laugh at the titles coming out for the Wii compared to the 360 or PS3. Nintendo will always remain in my heart (NES) but as of late, I'm a Microsoft fanboy.
 

Eetinam

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Everyone always trundles out the 'Nintendo's main game series have barely innovated.' But that's not a Nintendo-exclusive thing, they've just had the series everyone loves longest. How much innovation have Modern Warfare, Assassins Creed or Uncharted managed since they started? Halo's been going 10 years and you can hardly say that's innovated more than Zelda or Mario have in the same time.
It's the fault of fans not demanding more that Nintendo don't do more innovation with their core titles, and nobody else does either.
 

achilleas.k

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Toriver said:
Snippy of epic post on first page of thread
Though I can't relate to the arguments regarding the Japanese market (as I'm not IN Japan), everything else in this post was enough to make me stop reading the thread in order to say thank you to @Toriver for elegantly making a very nice point.

Others have tried to do the same in this thread, but not so well.
You win sir, @Toriver . You win!

On a different note:
Stop feeling ashamed for the things you enjoy Briana (may I call you Briana?)
So your friends are playing Fallout and you're playing Kirby. What's wrong with playing both? Why is it shameful to love Nintendo's console and franchises, or anything for that matter?

I know, it looks like I'm sort of missing the point here by focusing on the choice of word, but feeling shameful (or "bad") for any kind of choice or taste is something I always considered people (should) grow out of. It might be the alcohol (probably not, all I have is light Czech beer -- the shame), but while typing this post, I sort of got a flashback of a blog post I read recently that really stuck to me (I'm going to go REALLY off-topic now) which was about the difference between being childish and childlike. In my mind, it fits here because I see Nintendo games as having a childlike charm to them that (obviously) the article's author enjoys, as well as many of the comment posters. On the other hand, I consider feeling ashamed of this fact is quite childish; like a 15 year old who's afraid that his cool schoolmates will make fun of him if they find out he likes Star Wars.



The only argument I will accept in such discussions is how some people can only afford one console and it's hard to abandon the popular AAA titles (especially when forums, news sites and the internet in general push them so hard down your throat you're addicted to shooting your friends in the head before the game is even released) for the less popular franchises you love. But honestly, I don't know many people who have only ONE console (PC included) and even if they did, shame is not something I would ever associate with such a choice, no matter which one it is.

I feel VERY lucky that I can run a dungeon in Skyward Sword and as soon as it finishes I can go play a bit of Battlefield 3 before going to bed.

EDIT: That's strange. Why was I reading a year-old article? I have no clue how I reached this but I thought it was new.

EDIT2: Also interesting: I just remembered that the blog post [http://susanarendt.com/2012/01/02/like-not-ish/] I mention was actually by Susan Arendt.
 

GaudyMarrko

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I feel your pain man, I miss the golden years of the N64. Back then it wasn't even worth the time to own a play station 1 because every few months a new kick ass Rare title like donkey kong 64 or golden eye would hit the market and the 1st party titles were able to carry the console. It didn't even bother me that I had to miss out on crash, spyro and final fantasy. Now I'm ashamed of the fact that i went out to buy a 3DS just so i could relive ocarina of time, when the console hasn't made anything worth buying that wasn't a port.
 

Dragonbums

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I don't know man.
Maybe if this were still in the Wii generation I would kind of agree with her.
However it makes no sense to focus on the shovelware that isn't even made by Nintendo and claim that they are publishing it.
I would look forward to this gen though.
Seeing as how there are a lot of nice games coming out, and they have a couple new IP's that have made quite a nice niche for themselves on the e-shop.

Honestly though, the impatience of some of the people nowadays is astounding. Give a system at least 4 months to have more games come out.
Some people I've seen in the Facebook thread said they buy a Wii day one, and return it a month later. Like really?
That's hardly any time at all!
The PS3 didn't have that many games in a span of a month.
Nor did the Xbox 360.