4Chan Helped FBI Prevent A School Shooting ... No, Really

[gim73]

If he had made a map of his school on a fps then that is totally normal.

I think your definition of "normal" needs some serious re-working if you think this is normal. This is sick.

The reality is that normal is a broader term than you might think. One of my favorite games takes place in the post-nuclear apocalypse ruins of my nations capital. As video game fans, we are much more in tune with the divide between fantasy and reality than most people. It's not like we are programming in fleeing children to be gunned down in our levels. Usually they are just simply maps for team deathmatches or some other capture the flag tom-foolery.

It's a real shame about the hyper sensitivity of a minority forces certain opinions on the majority. It's only been about 15 years since they really started going for a zero tolerance policy on underage nudity. Regular people just taking normal pictures of their kids naked were suddenly being arrested for developing kiddie porn. It's just plain stupid. I don't know anyone who DOESN'T have pictures taken by parents of bath time with brother/sister/cousin or whatever. Nobody is a victim in any of these photos, yet they are found to be on the same level as creepy uncle lester and his eight year old daughter being molested on tape. It all comes down to the concepts of nudity, shame, morality and law. You find that people will always try to force their morality into laws, no matter how absurd they are. In a binary world this might work, but that's simply not the fact. We live in a world of purples and greens, not black and white. The label of sex offender should be something serious for rapists and molesters, not high school seniors with junior girlfriends. As far as the internet goes, all girls on the internet are both under and over the age of eighteen at the same time. yeah, that's right, it's schrodingers porn. Don't get me started on hentai. Cartoons don't have an age. Used to be that it was illegal to make hentai with pubic hair because it was indecent... yeah... the porn with tenticles and girls growing a penis was indecent if they had something as naturally occurring as pubic hair. Never mind that hentai is actually japanese for pervert, if you are reading it, it doesn't really matter what age the characters are said to be. They could be ten year olds with huge tits or thirty year olds with flat chests, it's a freaking cartoon and changing the text bubbles completely changes what you perceive as truth.

 

[Kumomaru]

Does anybody else find it a little weird that they mentioned the kiddie porn? i mean yeah, it's bad, but... a shooter would have things like guns and bblueprints and stuff... not kiddie porn.

 

[VaderMan92]

Lol sounds like he was trying to troll /b/ and /b/ trolled him right back using the FBI.

 

[Sandjube]

Huh....4chan has feelings. I never knew that.

 

[darksakul]

Also since the guy is in college and child porn goes up to 18, he may have had pics of people he knows, who are only a year younger due to sex-ting, so I am not 100% convinced by that either. Most people when told 'we found child porn' say 'kill him'. I first ask what kind of child porn before saying 'kill him'.

First off, all files have a created date and last edit date and last accessed date. Just right click a file and click on properties. 2nd as far as child pornography is concern and US law. Its actual photographic deceptions of children in sexual or pornographic manner. Nude photos for scientific/ medical research or artistic nude (thin line here what counts as artistic nude with children, such as naked baby pics are okay, but not if they appear sexual in nature.) or documentation (family photos at a family-nude resort, or the stuff you see in National Geographic) is APPARENTLY acceptable. So by that definition it have to be pretty gross stuff. And most states have very stiff laws against this kind of material.

 

[Zaik]

Not the first or last one, tbh.

Then there's that pedophile they caught in Canada and turned in, and they pretty much many-handedly ruined Hal Turner's life, which was totally called for.

 

[TheBaron87]

You know, this guy is the same as pretty much everyone on /b/, minus the common sense not to actually post threats.

I guarantee he was reported for the lulz and to teach him a lesson for being dumb enough to say something incriminating, so don't get your hopes up on 4chan caring about justice or their fellow man or anything like that.

 

[katsabas]

This kind of reminds me of The Riddler. You know, leaving clues before a crime. Rot in jail, you sick bastard. High score with people, Jesus...

 

[A_Libertarian]

WHOA!! Timeout.

The FBI invaded this guy's house for a threat he made on 4chan?? If you've ever been to the site, the entire bulletin board is FULL of offensive humor and trolling. I understand how this would be offensive and even a little scary, but since when did the First Amendment not apply to the internet?

Look, if I go on a website and say I'm going to kill my f*cking boss (something we all do frequently, I imagine), how does that not fall under Freedom of Speech? I've committed no crime, other than perhaps slander. This is a sad day for America, if true.

Also, the author of this newsbyte should be ashamed of himself for a complete lack of critical thinking.

 

[agnosticOCD]

The fact that he has kiddie porn and that the threat could be real is no reason to put him in a cage, but I would very strongly suggest counseling instead of arrest. I'm no fan of arrest, I'm more of an "exile [insert sick psycho here]" fan.

4chan having some common sense is nothing new, at least for me, considering some of the biggest movements of or supported by Anonymous were efforts aimed for decency (despite some of their inexcusable, rude, and plain immature behavior {disregarding the sick, disturbing things} on the internet).

 

[agnosticOCD]

WHOA!! Timeout.

The FBI invaded this guy's house for a threat he made on 4chan?? If you've ever been to the site, the entire bulletin board is FULL of offensive humor and trolling. I understand how this would be offensive and even a little scary, but since when did the First Amendment not apply to the internet?

Look, if I go on a website and say I'm going to kill my f*cking boss (something we all do frequently, I imagine), how does that not fall under Freedom of Speech? I've committed no crime, other than perhaps slander. This is a sad day for America, if true.

Also, the author of this newsbyte should be ashamed of himself for a complete lack of critical thinking.

Marginal statism, don't you just love it when police do that?

 

[agnosticOCD]

I dont like 4chan

I got news for you buddy, you basically said "I don't like you" to over 50% of the members of escapist.

ok... Was there a point to this post ?

People are free to say whatever they want, and 4chan doesn't exactly have a good reputation. At least he's speaking out, no matter how simple and blunt. Leave the guy alone. Nice avatar btw. A fellow Tool fan.

 

[ph0b0s123]

Also since the guy is in college and child porn goes up to 18, he may have had pics of people he knows, who are only a year younger due to sex-ting, so I am not 100% convinced by that either. Most people when told 'we found child porn' say 'kill him'. I first ask what kind of child porn before saying 'kill him'.

First off, all files have a created date and last edit date and last accessed date. Just right click a file and click on properties. 2nd as far as child pornography is concern and US law. Its actual photographic deceptions of children in sexual or pornographic manner. Nude photos for scientific/ medical research or artistic nude (thin line here what counts as artistic nude with children, such as naked baby pics are okay, but not if they appear sexual in nature.) or documentation (family photos at a family-nude resort, or the stuff you see in National Geographic) is APPARENTLY acceptable. So by that definition it have to be pretty gross stuff. And most states have very stiff laws against this kind of material.

Don't get what you are on about. What I was trying to say was that even if the authorities say he has child porn on his computer, that does not shock me that much. Why? Because he is in college, so is in the 18-19 age range and child porn is a depiction of anyone up to 18. So since no-one would bat much of an eye lid if he was dating someone under 18 (obviously depending how much under), he could also have pictures of people just under 18 as well. So my point was that just cause the authenticates say he had child porn, I would want to know more than just that statement, before wanting to throw the book at him. That was all.

If it turns out he has pics of people a lot younger than he is, then it is a no-brainier.

 

[Ewyx]

Grats, and now this guys life is going to be fucked forever because of the retarded US laws concerning child pornography (Note, it didn't mention what kind of pictures, hell even caching some pics from 4chan is enough to get you arrested). Also, pictures of 15, 16 years that took pictures themselves can still be considered child porn (please I would really like for everyone to realize that pedophilia is attraction to prepubescent children. Yes, children BEFORE they reach puberty).

While I believe that the FBI should investigate the guy, taking anything on 4chan seriously? Oh, I'm pretty sure he was serious, like 5 people that show up each day and claim 'I'm going to commit suicide on a camera, just watch me'.

Big deal, so the guy made an inappropriate joke. I don't know why they have to fuck up his life because of it.

 

[redisforever]

Doesn't the FBI say they find child porn on the computer of everyone they raid, so they don't look like idiots and have to say, "Yeah, sorry, we raided your house cause 4chan told us to."

I don't know. People threatening acts of extreme violence like that can be justified raiding a computer even if they get it wrong sometimes. The risk of embarrassment doesn't outweigh the risk of someone being serious.

I meant about the child porn. Because whenever I read about a raid by the FBI, they always find some. Do they just run a google search, and say "We found some!"

 

[DTWolfwood]

dee dEE DEE moment. Conspiracy is actually a crime joke or not they can still charge u. Plus the kiddie porn. Thats just fail on a most epic lvl.

 

[A_Libertarian]

Doesn't the FBI say they find child porn on the computer of everyone they raid, so they don't look like idiots and have to say, "Yeah, sorry, we raided your house cause 4chan told us to."

I don't know. People threatening acts of extreme violence like that can be justified raiding a computer even if they get it wrong sometimes. The risk of embarrassment doesn't outweigh the risk of someone being serious.

I meant about the child porn. Because whenever I read about a raid by the FBI, they always find some. Do they just run a google search, and say "We found some!"

If you've ever been to 4chan for more than a couple seconds, you've got child porn on your computer in the temporary internet files. Which means they need to lock up about a million people.

 

[Optimystic]

Usually /b/ only seems to get riled up over rival boards, boxxy, and cheese pizza (so sad... so very sad I get that). I'd figure they'd have taken him for a troll.

You forgot cats.

for some reason, I find this "alliance" comparable with Mario and Bowser, most of the time they want to kill each other, but sometimes they cool and go play tennis together

This. Fucking win!