7554: Vietnam's Call of Duty Coming Next Year

[Random berk]

Was that a luger the player was using? My airsoft sidearm
is a luger! Its a piece of shit.

First that's na Nambu.
Secondlaying with plastic rifles doesn't mean you know 'bout guns.

Did I say I know about guns? No. Should I know about guns? Not particularly, no. Did you have any actual reason for making your second point, or did you just want to feel superior about something?

 

[Helmholtz Watson]

As an American, I feel it is my "duty" to respond to the making of this game with overly emotional, extreme jingoism. So with out further adieu,:

 

[Vrach]

Gamers accepting of other races?

Have you played online on the same server/in the same party full of people from different countries?

Ah well. For $12, I'll check it out I guess.

Just because there are always douchebags around doesn't mean the majority are douchebags. Most of the people I've met online were tolerant of other people. I've met quite a diversity of cultures while I was playing WoW, we never had any issues with anyone.

 

[Jezzascmezza]

This looks so much like an early Treyarch-developed COD game it's not even funny...

 

[wammnebu]

it sucks to be french in a video game (unless its made by paradox).

im excited for intrigued, but my guess is it will be a minor game that will reach moderate success. But with any luck we can start a whole new trend of semi-wwii games.

Although it seems well get a game for Julius Nyere's conquest of Tanganyika, before i ever see my wwi shooter.

 

[Bob_Marley42]

EDIT: And I have one more question. Why is there an MP40 in the game?

The Viet Minh (and to some extent the French) used a hodge-podge of weapons during the First Indochina War. They were armed with weapons captured from the Japanese during WWII (hense the Nambu pistol and Arisaka rifle), weapons sent as aid by the US during WWII (Garand, Thompson), weapons captured from the French during the war (saw one of the NPCs with a M1924/29 LMG) and weapons sent to them as aid by the USSR, which following WWII had a huge stockpile of captured German arms which it sent across the world to aid communist movements, which is why in conflicts in the third world you still see things like MP44s and K98ks pop up every now and again, (MP40, Mauser K98k) so expect to see everything you've been familiar with from WWII games (apart from British weapons, though they can't be ruled out, following the end of the war the British armed forces occupied Indochina prior to the return of the French), plus some French kit.

Also, le trailer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEbPhRUXGPw

Seems like 7754 covers many of the key battles of the First Indochina War rather than focusing soley on Dien Bien Phu. Which is interesting. Also shows some of the other weapons in-game, such as the M1 Carbine, PPSh-41, Luger, MAT-49 & MAC Mle. 1950.

Anyway, cool to see something from a perspective not often used, the only other game where one plays as the Vietnamese that I can think of would be Vietcong 2, but that was a short, secondary campagin while the main focus was on US forces. The gameplay does, however, look a bit dull. If it comes out in Europe and its a tenner or less I'll probably pick it up.

 

[Mudkipith]

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Love the Vietnamophobe racist under-current there buddy, perfectly complemented by ignorance and arrogance. But what could one expect from an American.

a perfect example of American imbecile thinking.

Love Ameriphobe racist under-current there buddy.

OT: I hope the story is interesting enough to warrant a purchase, hell it's only $12.

 

[Blind Sight]

I'm definitely buying this, even if only to support a military FPS setting that does not automatically put you inside a western knobhead yelling "AMERICA! FUCK YEAH!" every two minutes of gameplay. The western propaganda is getting old by now. This might show a little more respect to the setting of warfare, or at least it's got the potential for it.

To be honest, with Vietnamese censorship laws it's more likely that it'll just be 'VIETNAM, FUCK YEAH!' instead of America. Which is still an interesting alternative nonetheless.

I went to Vietnam a few years back, (I'm Australian), and they're incredibly respectful, when I revealed I was Australian they really showed me respect and admiration!

They're a wonderful bunch, apart from a few bag eggs.

OT: I'll get it, just to support the company.

Oh, I don't doubt that Vietnamese individuals are respectful, but there's legal institutionized media bias that's been in place for years.

Examples: http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~sdenney/vnban.txt

Media-wise I'm just saying that Vietnamese discussion is limited by their government, and I expect there may be some bias produced.

 

[Random berk]

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I'm sorry but from what I understood you thought the Luger is shit.If you were making the that assumption about the airsoft replica, then excuse me.

Not an assumption, a statement of fact, and yes, I was referring to the airsoft gun.

 

[no oneder]

EDIT: Damn it! It broke again.

 

[Not G. Ivingname]

It looks like these guys were making a World War 2 game, but decided to set in the French Vietnam war at the last minute so they could reuse the weapons but take place in a less used war.

This also doesn't look like it has the highest production values in the world and looks pretty terrible.

(bold added by me)

Love the Vietnamophobe racist under-current there buddy, perfectly complemented by ignorance and arrogance. But what could one expect from an American.

1) The developers are Vietnamese. I'm reasonably sure they set out to make a game set in the First Indochina War from the start.

2) The First Indochina War raged between 1946-1954. The game itself takes place in 1954. World War 2-era firearms, bolt-action and semi-automatic weapons, were standard issue back then.

The AK-47 was barely 5 years old in 1954 and still dogged by production problems, so manufacture went on in tandem with the SKS carbine. It wouldn't be until 1956 that the AK-47 started to enter service in significant numbers with the frontline Red Army units. Significant quantities of AK-47 rifles wouldn't start appearing abroad until 1960 onwards

The US M-14 rifle was still 5 years away from introduction. The M-16 rifle was almost 10 years away.

So precisely what weapons were you expecting to see?

3) Pardon me, but don't video game graphics today need millions of dollars to be brought to AAA status?

Last time I checked Emobi Games didn't have an Activision-grade publisher behind them to shovel the wads of cash needed to produce today's fancy graphics.

So precisely what are you saying : "Oh, they're poor so of course their games suck".

That's right up there with "If the film doesn't have Avatar-level CGI, the film sucks" - a perfect example of American imbecile thinking.

Congrats.[/quote

I wasn't aware of that, I thought the developer was FRENCH.

My mistake.

 

[dyre]

Interesting, a game about third world countries breaking free from imperialist powers. I hope the game explores the history behind French colonization and American interference after the French pull out. People ought to know more about why the Vietnam War happened, and how the US was pretty much the bad guys in that war.

 

[MonkeyPunch]

That bold part must be the most redundant thing I've ever read. I mean, duh.

Ah, yet someone else who is ignorant about history and wears it on their sleeve

...not to mention the potentially sticky subject matter...

No more of sticky subject than World at War.
It's good to see a game which doesn't have a Western power as the almighty do-gooder for once.

 

[Harji Sangha]

Actually it's not potentially sticky at all.

Everything you said actually reinforces my point. The victories over France and the US may be a reason to party down in Vietnam, but I think you're being a little disingenuous if you're seriously saying that you don't see any potential stickiness at all in an international release of a videogame about the ejection of a major western colonial power in the modern era.

Do you think it would be a little dicey if Crytek decided to make a game about, oh, say, kicking the shit out of France in the early 40s? Because I think it might be, just a bit. And I wouldn't personally have a problem with it - my semi-boycott of WW2 shooters will end immediately if someone ever puts one out that lets me play as the Wehrmacht - but in the big picture I think it'd probably be the cause of some hurt feelings and a few awkward moments.

What stickiness? Why? Because you think it was wrong?!? I think you are____ Don't want to violate policy.

edit- The graphics are better then Battlefield because it's also about setting. playing the same white boi who's chick-sh*t and is probably being cheated on at home kind of gets boring...

Esp when you consider that there's no point. Media is art so there's more to it than just how "pretty" it looks. This is the most beautiful game I've played.

Wait till my black people start making games... Sepoy mutiny esp. How pissed would britain be seeing piss poor indian people putting "redcoat" heads on stakes?

edit 2x- srsly though in the first level wth is that he's using to destroy the tanks look cool as fuck. And ppl are kind of ignorant of history, there's people still using muskets, and .303s from ww1. When ur broke, u don't pick and choose you pick up the first gun availible. Not to mention there's not much differnce.

Sure the latest SCAR or w.e may have laser beams, and all that crap but smokeless rifle cartridges have been able to kill you from pretty much the American Civil War and be accurate past the average combat distance. If it shoots straight It'll kill you. Hence why the dynamics of ground war are changing; western armies no longer enjoy the same superiority, they have organization, tactics, and equipment but a lot of that can be offset by an insurgency blended in w/ a population and defensively fortified.

Russians in Afghanistan for example.