Yep, Lavos should definitely be in there I think. Don't rate the Illusive Man at all in a list like this.Tanis said:Two Mass Effect but NONE from Chrono Cross/Trigger?!?!?
He lures innocent human civilians in with the promise of sanctuary, and then turns them all in to Husks. He caused the deaths of thousands more when he lured the Collectors to Horizon, just to test a theory.Xan Krieger said:How is the Illusive Man a villain? He just wants humanity to be better than the ETs, he's basically a hero.
Trying to think when that was, I didn't get far into Mass Effect 3. I remember him as being a great guy in Mass Effect 2 with goals every human should've shared.008Zulu said:He lures innocent human civilians in with the promise of sanctuary, and then turns them all in to Husks. He caused the deaths of thousands more when he lured the Collectors to Horizon, just to test a theory.Xan Krieger said:How is the Illusive Man a villain? He just wants humanity to be better than the ETs, he's basically a hero.
Shepard & Crew going to Sanctuary happened late game in ME3.Xan Krieger said:Trying to think when that was, I didn't get far into Mass Effect 3.
Xan Krieger said:Trying to think when that was, I didn't get far into Mass Effect 3. I remember him as being a great guy in Mass Effect 2 with goals every human should've shared.008Zulu said:He lures innocent human civilians in with the promise of sanctuary, and then turns them all in to Husks. He caused the deaths of thousands more when he lured the Collectors to Horizon, just to test a theory.Xan Krieger said:How is the Illusive Man a villain? He just wants humanity to be better than the ETs, he's basically a hero.
008Zulu said:Shepard & Crew going to Sanctuary happened late game in ME3.Xan Krieger said:Trying to think when that was, I didn't get far into Mass Effect 3.
Thanks for the info guys, I always thought of his humanity first view as like a more peaceful version of the Imperium from W40K. Sure he hates aliens and advocates for their demise but he seldom actually does it. I guess that's why I loved Ashley so much in Mass Effect 1, her disdain for lesser species matched up with my own.jklinders said:Xan Krieger said:Trying to think when that was, I didn't get far into Mass Effect 3. I remember him as being a great guy in Mass Effect 2 with goals every human should've shared.008Zulu said:He lures innocent human civilians in with the promise of sanctuary, and then turns them all in to Husks. He caused the deaths of thousands more when he lured the Collectors to Horizon, just to test a theory.Xan Krieger said:How is the Illusive Man a villain? He just wants humanity to be better than the ETs, he's basically a hero.
Truthfully he always stank like a week dead fish in ME 2 to me. Everything was just lined up too perfect from a PR perspective to lure Shepard in.
The bit about luring humans to a sanctuary and turning them into husks was revealed towards the end of ME 3, he also spearheaded an attempted coup at the Citadel. All the Cerberus shock troopers in ME 3 were in fact advanced husks. Wasn't really an ass pull either. He never shied away from using reaper tech or tactics.
The above said they should have picked one from Mass Effect and not 2 and the one picked should have been Harbinger, not the whole Reaper race.
I liked Ashley, until the third game. Some kind of batshit insane crap hit her character writing in the third game. If she dies during the Citadel coup, she does so with a curse on her lips for Shepard, despite seeing for herself how wrong she was the entire time.Xan Krieger said:008Zulu said:Shepard & Crew going to Sanctuary happened late game in ME3.Xan Krieger said:Trying to think when that was, I didn't get far into Mass Effect 3.Thanks for the info guys, I always thought of his humanity first view as like a more peaceful version of the Imperium from W40K. Sure he hates aliens and advocates for their demise but he seldom actually does it. I guess that's why I loved Ashley so much in Mass Effect 1, her disdain for lesser species matched up with my own.jklinders said:Xan Krieger said:Trying to think when that was, I didn't get far into Mass Effect 3. I remember him as being a great guy in Mass Effect 2 with goals every human should've shared.008Zulu said:He lures innocent human civilians in with the promise of sanctuary, and then turns them all in to Husks. He caused the deaths of thousands more when he lured the Collectors to Horizon, just to test a theory.Xan Krieger said:How is the Illusive Man a villain? He just wants humanity to be better than the ETs, he's basically a hero.
Truthfully he always stank like a week dead fish in ME 2 to me. Everything was just lined up too perfect from a PR perspective to lure Shepard in.
The bit about luring humans to a sanctuary and turning them into husks was revealed towards the end of ME 3, he also spearheaded an attempted coup at the Citadel. All the Cerberus shock troopers in ME 3 were in fact advanced husks. Wasn't really an ass pull either. He never shied away from using reaper tech or tactics.
The above said they should have picked one from Mass Effect and not 2 and the one picked should have been Harbinger, not the whole Reaper race.
But it's small stuff involving at most a few dozen casualties in any one situation. They're small time until the third game.jklinders said:I liked Ashley, until the third game. Some kind of batshit insane crap hit her character writing in the third game. If she dies during the Citadel coup, she does so with a curse on her lips for Shepard, despite seeing for herself how wrong she was the entire time.Xan Krieger said:008Zulu said:Shepard & Crew going to Sanctuary happened late game in ME3.Xan Krieger said:Trying to think when that was, I didn't get far into Mass Effect 3.Thanks for the info guys, I always thought of his humanity first view as like a more peaceful version of the Imperium from W40K. Sure he hates aliens and advocates for their demise but he seldom actually does it. I guess that's why I loved Ashley so much in Mass Effect 1, her disdain for lesser species matched up with my own.jklinders said:Xan Krieger said:Trying to think when that was, I didn't get far into Mass Effect 3. I remember him as being a great guy in Mass Effect 2 with goals every human should've shared.008Zulu said:He lures innocent human civilians in with the promise of sanctuary, and then turns them all in to Husks. He caused the deaths of thousands more when he lured the Collectors to Horizon, just to test a theory.Xan Krieger said:How is the Illusive Man a villain? He just wants humanity to be better than the ETs, he's basically a hero.
Truthfully he always stank like a week dead fish in ME 2 to me. Everything was just lined up too perfect from a PR perspective to lure Shepard in.
The bit about luring humans to a sanctuary and turning them into husks was revealed towards the end of ME 3, he also spearheaded an attempted coup at the Citadel. All the Cerberus shock troopers in ME 3 were in fact advanced husks. Wasn't really an ass pull either. He never shied away from using reaper tech or tactics.
The above said they should have picked one from Mass Effect and not 2 and the one picked should have been Harbinger, not the whole Reaper race.
There was nothing peaceful about Cerberus, if you did the side quests in ME 1. Every last thing that was done by them in that game was cuckoo for cocoa puffs crazy.
*shrug*Xan Krieger said:But it's small stuff involving at most a few dozen casualties in any one situation. They're small time until the third game.jklinders said:I liked Ashley, until the third game. Some kind of batshit insane crap hit her character writing in the third game. If she dies during the Citadel coup, she does so with a curse on her lips for Shepard, despite seeing for herself how wrong she was the entire time.Xan Krieger said:008Zulu said:Shepard & Crew going to Sanctuary happened late game in ME3.Xan Krieger said:Trying to think when that was, I didn't get far into Mass Effect 3.Thanks for the info guys, I always thought of his humanity first view as like a more peaceful version of the Imperium from W40K. Sure he hates aliens and advocates for their demise but he seldom actually does it. I guess that's why I loved Ashley so much in Mass Effect 1, her disdain for lesser species matched up with my own.jklinders said:Xan Krieger said:Trying to think when that was, I didn't get far into Mass Effect 3. I remember him as being a great guy in Mass Effect 2 with goals every human should've shared.008Zulu said:He lures innocent human civilians in with the promise of sanctuary, and then turns them all in to Husks. He caused the deaths of thousands more when he lured the Collectors to Horizon, just to test a theory.Xan Krieger said:How is the Illusive Man a villain? He just wants humanity to be better than the ETs, he's basically a hero.
Truthfully he always stank like a week dead fish in ME 2 to me. Everything was just lined up too perfect from a PR perspective to lure Shepard in.
The bit about luring humans to a sanctuary and turning them into husks was revealed towards the end of ME 3, he also spearheaded an attempted coup at the Citadel. All the Cerberus shock troopers in ME 3 were in fact advanced husks. Wasn't really an ass pull either. He never shied away from using reaper tech or tactics.
The above said they should have picked one from Mass Effect and not 2 and the one picked should have been Harbinger, not the whole Reaper race.
There was nothing peaceful about Cerberus, if you did the side quests in ME 1. Every last thing that was done by them in that game was cuckoo for cocoa puffs crazy.