I'm sorry but I disagree. The chance of accident was quite high and someone could have gotten killed. This sort of behaviour is just plain unacceptable.PaulH said:
You assume everyone is like you. That's actually a personality disorder but I won't get into it. I don't know you as a person and I can't go on making wild accusations.PaulH said:I don't know ... same way I did?Admittedly there was no facebook or youtube back when I went to HS. A more apt question would be, why exactly do you think that he'll negatively suffer for it with much severity?
This is why I don't like treating children who suffer bullying as victims, but merely as people who can overcome like so many others. I mean if you keep treating people like victims you're reducing any emotional reparations they will naturally pursue themselves. To me that is neither therapeutic or effective.
Either way, this is still emotionally damaging for a child. To be shamed in such a way and to have to face your peers the next day is horrifying. Have you never felt this sort of fear? Have you never felt overwhelming shame? It's worse than that.
I disagree with your argument. They are victims and getting over something as traumatizing as bullying is just plain hard. Most kids can't do so, especially teenagers. Teenagehood is an extremely emotional part of life where everything is taken seriously. How people view and treat you will eventually shape you into the person you'll be as an adult. Bullying is very serious and being bullied will lead to depression and in some cases even suicide. You have to understand that not all people are like you. From what I've read off your comments you've been through some hard times as well. Being on your own at 16, a critical time in your development is frankly a concept I can't wrap my head around.
Teens need help with this sort of thing and whether or not they can get over it is irrelevant. During the time they attempt to "get over it" they can fall into even deeper depressions that, like I've said before and is evidenced by all the teen suicides that happen due to bullying, can have negative consequences to the well being of that person. Bullying needs to be stopped. Whether or not they can "get over it" is irrelevant.
Most teens have some form of personality or mood disorder brought on by their experiences with their peers. Teens don't just fall into depression and giving the amount of strange and new emotions you actually experience during teenagehood depression takes a much more serious toll on them. I'm in no way suggesting depression is not a serious disorder during adulthood.
You can't just let them "get over it". Even if they do get over their depression it can have lasting effects in the long run or even worse, resurface during adulthood. Remember, most major psychiatric disorders occur during teenagehood. There's absolutely no reason to propagate this by simply letting teenagers fend for themselves when they experience something like depression.
This is why I don't like treating children who suffer bullying as victims, but merely as people who can overcome like so many others. I mean if you keep treating people like victims you're reducing any emotional reparations they will naturally pursue themselves. To me that is neither therapeutic or effective.
That depends on the test. Most conselours and even child psychiatrists work with the child so they can determine their mental well being. Personality tests do nothing to help someone. They're sort of like determining your zodiac. There are, however, actual tests done to determine the way someone thinks but even those are extremely limited. The fact of the matter is tests will not determine whether or not someone has depression. Most people who do experience depression tend to hide it, be it due to shame or just plain not wanting others to know they're weak, being afraid to open up. This is a serious disorder. This is why you need an actual psychologist to do the work. They're professionals. They're good at what they do and they're the only ones capable of assessing the situation and treatment methods.PaulH said:
Every single behaviour is learned and usually has some grounds in either family or peer trouble. People aren't born bullies and neither are they born depressed. This is why I believe regular psycological check ups should be done on teens all over the world. Finding out something's wrong early will go a long way in helping that person recover.
Actually, the impact social media has on people who are being bullied is huge. Not only do they have to deal with bullying at work or school they now also have to deal with it on the internet. There's also a wider audience present on the internet which means not only will their peers most likely catch a glimpse of a video of them being bullied but so will thousands of other people.PaulH said:
There's also a positive effect. Since the audience is so large you'll get lots more people cheering for the victim than the bullies. This serves to raise self esteem which is a big problem with people who suffer from mood or personality disorders. It's a double edges sword.
Then again, the bully most likely has his own problems. There's always a reason people engage in bullying and usually it's a negative one. Seeing people insult or wish their death won't do much in helping them change their behaviour. Again, it's a double edged sword.
Empowering them is one thing. Leaving them to fend for themselves is a whole other story. The reason I advocate psychological support for bullying victims is because of suicide. Suicide is a big part of a teens life and at some point they will think of it. Bullying can exacerbate those ideas to the point of actually going through with them.PaulH said:
Bullying usually stems from a lack of education and an inability to feel sympathy. These are all problems commonly experienced by bullies. For the most part, neglect and abuse are big reasons as to why people engage in bullying, as it offers a way out. You feel accepted in your own crowd if you pick on the fat kid for e.g. The moment someone bullies the parents should immediately be interviewed. Be it they're to busy to discipline their child or maybe they simply don't know, it's irrelevant. The moment a problem is found, a social worker should be assigned to the case so as to help the parents better deal with their child and keep them up to speed with their child's behaviour. Let's face it, today people want everything. They want a big house, two cars, a pool and kids. You can't have that. You can't focus on your career in order to gain all those material things and at the same time raise a child. This is why I believe a social worker would do wonders for couples who simply do not know how to handle their child or just plain can't. This is especially true for kids who are raised by a single parent.PaulH said:
A social worker would help them better themselves so as to better their child. There is no shame in admitting you've got a problem. There is shame, however, in refusing to accept help.
Actually, yes you do. Schools should take bullying more seriously. You can't JUST shrug it off, it doesn't work that way. Not everyone is emotionless. Teachers actually giving a shit about their students would go a long way in fixing this problem. At the same time, parents focusing entirely on their children rather than on their own selfish dreams would also do loads to help curb the recent bullying epidemic.PaulH said:
Saying that it "just happens" is not an excuse to do jack about it. Diseases also happen but we don't let those who are sick fend for themselves.
They're not fools, they're unnexperienced. You seem to forget that teenagers, as mature as some might be and as radical as the change is from childhood to teenagehood, are still kids. They still know jack about the world and they still need guidance.PaulH said:
Why do you always do that? Why are you so incapable of putting yourselves in the shoes of others? Not everyone is like you. Not everyone can just shrug off emotional and physical abuse. It usually has lasting effects and it has had lasting effects on you to. I don't want to jump to wild conclussions but from my discussion with you it seems obviously clear that you have a problem trusting and relying on people. You were obviously hurt in the past for doing so. Maybe you remember it, maybe you don't but that's irrelevant. Maybe this is how you were raised, to believe that you can only succeed in life if you fend for yourself and never rely on others but other people can't do that and from the looks of it, neither can you. I'm sorry if I offended you, it is not in my intention to do so.
I broke the ligament on my 4th toe so now I can bend it in ways I've never thought possible. Always freaks people out when I do itand I always look awesome doing it.PaulH said:
There are a lot of factors. For me it was depression and constant psychological bullying due to not having the nerve to fight back. I still haven't gotten over my depression yet and I'm extremely cautions about opening up to other people now. For others it might be different, I don't know. What I do know for a fact is that bullying is never easy to handle and it almost always leaves a scar on all of us whether we realize it or not.PaulH said:
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You moved away at 16, a critical time in your development. I don't want to offend you but if your parents actually let you go then they've got to be pretty shitty parents. You're basically clueless at 16, no matter how smart you think you were. You've got no experience of life and learning by doing is frankly the hardest way possible of growing up. From the looks of it you went through some rough shit.
It's mostly neglect that leads to bullying. Parents nowadays are extremely selfish. In my opinion, you should consider your life over the moment you have a child with your only goal in life being raising that child to be a respectable and intelligent person. Frankly, parents who still focus on their own goals once they have children aren't what I'd consider good.PaulH said:
