8th grade Girls Attack/Strip 11-Year-Old Boy

[Asuka Soryu]

To bad Onizuka wasn't real. He'd of fixed this.

 

[Asuka Soryu]

To be honest, I'd be upset if my son didn't let them strip him down. :/

Hell, I think a lot of kids his age would be begging for something like that to happen.

There's a difference between sexual stripping and being forced to do so for humiliation.

 

[Small Waves]

They didn't press charges the second they were caught? Bullshit. If you switched the genders around, they would have had their asses hauled into the slammer in a fucking heartbeat.

What they did was sexual harassment (stripping a minor) and assault (holding a child down with their knee ON HIS NECK). They should be charged and punished for it. Hell, if they were males, I'd bet my right arm that they would also be charged for child pornography.

 

[Auron225]

As others have said, it this were reversed, there would be an army of women demanding the boys' heads. Why the heck should this be left to the parents? Charge them with sexual assault at the very least!

 

[zeldagirl]

One of the top-rated comments on the first video reads "I hope he rapes the b**ches when he gets older."

I agree this was a horrible thing, and possibly traumatic for the young boy. The girls should have to answer for their actions in some capacity.
But if this is how some people react, and how people encourage people to react...I think we have bigger problems.

Seriously, why is it that the worst kind of self-righteous male chauvinism is suddenly okay because we're faced with this circumstance?
We should be above that.

*sigh*
We can never just admit that this action is wrong and move on, can we? We have to make a big deal about the fact that this was a boy being bullied by girls and go on about how 'evil women have it better than us' or 'we males are oppressed' or 'eat your vegetables or the feminists while come and get you in the night!'

Christ sake guys. What happened here is awful and shameless and cruel and a far cry to suggest that women are just as capable of comitting violent crimes as men are, but can we please stop with the angry accusations of injustice? Given how many acts of violence against women manage to go unchecked and unchallenged (the fact that Charlie Sheen isn't in prison for repeated acts of domestic abuse and threats and is instead still doing quite well is a good place to start), I think we can just admit that our society tends to have trouble clearing up problems and crimes regardless of the gender involved.

Look guys, I agree that this is an injustice. I just don't think we are yet at the point where we get to start claiming that we males are the victimized gender.

In any case, the person that ought to be blamed is the boy's mother. She should press charges, he was an eleven year old who was accosted by three people and stripped publicly while they filmed it. It sounds like they were bullying him very openly and very aggressively and any mother who actually cared about that should have stepped in an pressed charges.

I mean odds are, kids that young (thirteen, barely out of primary school themselves) chances are they wouldn't get particularly vicious sentances but all the same, SOME kind of punishment should be administered. This kind of violent behavior cannot go unpunished, it sends the wrong messages out.

First it encourages other young people to believe that they can get away with pulling this as well. Second it helps plant the image in the head of boys that, again, women get prefferential treatment. It also paints a very, very bad image of the mother herself for not doing anything about it as well as the school that these girls are a part of.

I guess what I'm saying is that this kind of behavior needs to be punished. But just because I agree that this is an awful thing to happen, doesn't mean that I agree with the standard rants against the female gender that threads like these so often inspire.

*slow clapping*


I think I love you both of you for this. I was getting to ready to rage at some of the more recent dumb-ass comments about how 'women have it better' and 'feminists are evil/have won.' It's ignorance all around.

But you are awesome.

 

[Shio]

I don't know what's more disturbing, the attack itself, or our willingness to create sexism of it.

The sexism is there, fabrication unnecessary

I disagree. A mother chose not to act, there is no legal dispute here. If the girls got off scot free because they are girls and they attacked a boy, then it would be sexism.

That is exactly what is happening, if they were male, the state would be pressing charges.

That sounds like an assumption to me.

 

[Pearwood]

I think I love you both of you for this. I was getting to ready to rage at some of the more recent dumb-ass comments about how 'women have it better' and 'feminists are evil/have won.' It's ignorance all around.

One has to question why people are against feminists winning in the first place... presumably they only listen to the ones any normal person would write off as insane within 5 seconds.

About the story I don't think it tells any real tale about society, the boy's mother is just being naive about the effects childhood abuse can have. And about the comments saying that it's just childhood bullying, it's sexual abuse not bullying, the difference between those two things is massive. But on the other hand if the reason she didn't want to get the law involved is that she feels the girls didn't deserve having such a terrible criminal record for the rest of their lives over something that may have been intended as a joke, however cruel and damaging, I could understand that.

 

[Addendum_Forthcoming]

I'm just thinking about how different this would be if the genders were reversed. It would be a clear cut, sexual assault and it would be a criminal act. But because it was a boy being assaulted, we have a thousand different opinions and people are debating over this. Heh. That's funny.

It's a joke ... and only a dick would then turn around and say 'That's criminal'

Wait, what? You think pinning someone to the ground and taking their clothes off whilst laughing at them and hurting them isn't illegal. What planet are you from? Sorry, but this was a criminal act. Also, have you even watched the video? Did you hear that boy scream? He was utterly humiliated and was in horrible pain. Doesn't seem like much of a prank to me, especially when it comes from girls much older than him.

Question. Would you be saying the same bullshit if the genders were reversed? If this was a group of fifteen year old boys stripping an eleven year old girl? If your answer is no, then you have no argument.

My ... God ... the fail is burning my eyes.

A: wasn't talking about the video

B: I wasn't talking about bullying

 

[SillyBear]

I'm just thinking about how different this would be if the genders were reversed. It would be a clear cut, sexual assault and it would be a criminal act. But because it was a boy being assaulted, we have a thousand different opinions and people are debating over this. Heh. That's funny.

It's a joke ... and only a dick would then turn around and say 'That's criminal'

Wait, what? You think pinning someone to the ground and taking their clothes off whilst laughing at them and hurting them isn't illegal. What planet are you from? Sorry, but this was a criminal act. Also, have you even watched the video? Did you hear that boy scream? He was utterly humiliated and was in horrible pain. Doesn't seem like much of a prank to me, especially when it comes from girls much older than him.

Question. Would you be saying the same bullshit if the genders were reversed? If this was a group of fifteen year old boys stripping an eleven year old girl? If your answer is no, then you have no argument.

My ... God ... the fail is burning my eyes.

A: wasn't talking about the video

B: I wasn't talking about bullying

Well no one knows what the hell you're talking about anyway.

 

[Addendum_Forthcoming]

Well no one knows what the hell you're talking about anyway.

If you really want my opinion... evidently you believe someone can be charged for being humiliated in public now? Hmm ... see here's me thinking that kids are shits and that learning to deal with shithead children when growing up was par on course.

And of course, let us leave out that 99% of people oin this forum seem to automatically assume that the mother of the child is both uncaring and a complete ***** for not wanting to press charges. Merely hoping that parental discipline (as it should be) was the correct course of action in this regard.

You know ... as it were in the past, and in 99% of cases still is when it comes to scuffles between kids.

But evidently either people are having Vietnam-like flashbacks to their childhoods and have yet learnt to 'deal' ... or they simply are outraged solely because ' well, like, you know ... if it was boys, like, you know .. sexism and stuff".

Seriously, you know what ... what fucking bearing does that argument have at all? Honestly ... would you breathe easier knowing that boys could strip girls butt naked too?

Or is everybody so fucking spiteful they feel like they need to judge three people they hardly know because of some grudge they are still holding back from the days of their childhood?

My two cents, and I bid you adieu.

 

[Tdc2182]

Go fucking wild Anon.

 

[SillyBear]

If you really want my opinion... evidently you believe someone can be charged for being humiliated in public now?

Haha, what? Pinning someone to the ground and stripping them off whilst they scream in discomfort has been illegal since the 1800s my good man.

Hmm ... see here's me thinking that kids are shits and that learning to deal with shithead children when growing up was par on course.

Sooo sexual assault is just fine?

And of course, let us leave out that 99% of people oin this forum seem to automatically assume that the mother of the child is both uncaring and a complete ***** for not wanting to press charges and merely hoping that parental discipline (as it should be) was the correct course of action in this regard.

Nope, I don't think that, and I may be wrong but I'm pretty sure 99% of the forum doesn't either.

You know ... as it were in the past, and in 99% of cases still is when it comes to scuffles between kids.

Haha, you are one of these people that throws around this "in the past" bullshit. This would have been a criminal act for the last hundred years. You can't pin someone to the ground and take their clothes off, and you haven't been able to in any point in recent Western history.

But evidently either people are having Vietnam-like flashbacks to their childhoods and have yet learnt to 'deal' ... or they simply are outraged solely because ' well, like, you know ... if it was boys, like, you know .. sexism and stuff".

I grew up in Ghana, I learnt how to deal with my problems pretty well. There is a difference between learning how to deal with your problems and breaking the law. You can't abuse an eleven year old boy and just say "deal with it".

Seriously, you know what ... what fucking bearing does that argument have at all? Honestly ... would you breathe easier knowing that boy could strip butt naked girls too?

If a three fifteen year old males pinned an eleven year old girl to the ground, dug their knee into her throat, made her scream and stripped her naked whilst filming it and laughing they would end up in serious, serious trouble.

You don't think so?

Or is everybody so fucking spiteful they feel like they need to judge three people they hardly know because of some grudge they are still holding back from the days of their childhood?

Here you go again making aggressive assumptions. I don't know what you're talking about. I'm not judging anyone, and I haven't said a single bad word about anyone involved. I just pointed out the fact that this is sexual assault and they broke the law.

Which, is true. I don't really care enough beyond that.

 

[Tdc2182]

Well no one knows what the hell you're talking about anyway.

If you really want my opinion... evidently you believe someone can be charged for being humiliated in public now? Hmm ... see here's me thinking that kids are shits and that learning to deal with shithead children when growing up was par on course.

And of course, let us leave out that 99% of people oin this forum seem to automatically assume that the mother of the child is both uncaring and a complete ***** for not wanting to press charges. Merely hoping that parental discipline (as it should be) was the correct course of action in this regard.

You know ... as it were in the past, and in 99% of cases still is when it comes to scuffles between kids.

But evidently either people are having Vietnam-like flashbacks to their childhoods and have yet learnt to 'deal' ... or they simply are outraged solely because ' well, like, you know ... if it was boys, like, you know .. sexism and stuff".

Seriously, you know what ... what fucking bearing does that argument have at all? Honestly ... would you breathe easier knowing that boys could strip girls butt naked too?

Or is everybody so fucking spiteful they feel like they need to judge three people they hardly know because of some grudge they are still holding back from the days of their childhood?

My two cents, and I bid you adieu.

While I don't agree with you, I've had the exact same run in with this person before. Ignore it and move on.

Don't try to defend your joke, just move on.

OT: Also, that mother needs to get her ass in Gear. A month's worth of grounding won't do anything. Juvie will do something

 

[Merkavar]

to all the people who are saying this is just bullying or a prank and should be dealt with by the parent.

too me bullying is picking on someone at your school etc. from what i understand about this incident this isnt bullying this is attacking someone. these 3 girls apparently left their school. walked to another school. then held down (knee to throat) and striped a boy. filmed it and posted it on the internet.

i dont care about the gender reversal stuff. this incident seems so extreme to me. its not just some school yard bullying its planned, premeditated assualt on a minor.

 

[AlexLoxate]

Well, at least no one blames video games this time.

 

[Ixnay1111]

I wish girls a few years above me in School were that eager to rip my clothes off...

But seriously, the law doesnt need to be brought into it. The girls should be taught a lesson but as the kids they are.

 

[JochemDude]

I don't think this is too be labeled rape, wrong yes, rape no. If it were boys then it would be rape, because this wasn't charged with testosterone fueled desire and a sick mind, but just a sick joke being pulled on 'that kid' that probably never talks or defends himself. Give them a year of large proportions of community work, that would be enough.

 

[Addendum_Forthcoming]

While I don't agree with you, I've had the exact same run in with this person before. Ignore it and move on.

Don't try to defend your joke, just move on.

OT: Also, that mother needs to get her ass in Gear. A month's worth of grounding won't do anything. Juvie will do something

Noted, though I wasn't joking.

It seems like people want blood whenever they see things they don't like. And whilst I don't suspect that the three culprits in the matter will receive due penalty for their actions, I find it difficult (both on an ethical front, and a case of available resources) that the judicial authorities could manage bullying/fighting between kids as well.

I mean, lets say that the punishment for this crime mirrored that of assault; whether male or female perpetrators.

You're then creating a powerful precedent for others to file charges (whether greater, equal, or lesser "damages") for police intervention as well.

I personally do not see how any Western government could manage instances of fighting amongst children (not even including, as you say, managing effective correctional facilities for juvenile offenders).

From both a collective social good, and for the sake of general sanity when it came to legal action concerning children, instead of just assuming parental discipline won't work ... maybe we should trust to it and hope that parents will be inclined to punish their children appropriately.

Unless you'rewilling to send a tenth of your adolescent population to JDCs, or have a CoL officially Wrist-slap an individual ... And I fail to see how that makes for a better society.

It's a parental responsibility. And I don't really see any reason why it should be anything else (unless it happens on school propertyy in which case it is both parental and the school's responsibility to discipline the individual/s). Anything more than that is likely to be abused by the same type of parents you're worried won't properly discipline their children (And yes, admittedly there are alot of irresponsible parents out there).

At the very least you're likely to create a fairly draconian state concerning juvenile law.

 

[Stephen Caswell]

Not pressing charges? That kid's mother is a fucking moron.

 

[Jungy 365]

These three girls are just the worst kind of people. I for one, want to live in this world amicably with my fellow man, and treat younger people jovially, rather than this out-right abuse.
I highly doubt this message will reach any of these three morally bankrupt girls, but, on the infinitly small chance that it might, I have this to say:
You are terrible people, and the existence of three people who can find this funny, disregarding all forms of morality, makes me sick.