Speak Your Mind in the Next Version of Dungeons & Dragons
- Thread starter Greg Tito
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I hope they're not kidding about maintaining support for 4th edition. It's not that I'm too stubborn to move on, as I'm certain the next edition will be lovely, but those manuals are god-awfully expensive.
Word. My group started on Essentials and just decided to upgrade to regular 4th edition. I don't want to tell them that we have to spend another $60 bucks on a *third* set of rulebooks.Lord Beautiful said:
Play tests are always a good thing, and I'm glad that they seem to be taking things seriously this time around.
I'm almost wondering if this is too soon. Will there be edition burn out?
I'm almost wondering if this is too soon. Will there be edition burn out?
Where as I only bought the first three core rule books before I realized that 4th edition was not for me. So I guess I'm looking forward to a new edition. Glad to see Monte Cook back on the team. Now hire Zeb Cook and get some quality flowing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Editions_of_Dungeons_%26_DragonsTJ Johnston said:
They're more or less right on schedule.
Hybrid D&D, huh?
Not a bad way to get people to find which editions suit them if they find some hybrid rules more appealing than others.
Not a bad way to get people to find which editions suit them if they find some hybrid rules more appealing than others.
Eh. Maybe it's my age or the fact that events in my life keep coming at me so quickly, but I feel like I JUST bought fourth edition (even though I bought it back when it first came out).Scars Unseen said:
I'm going to play test this new edition, and hopefully I'll like it as much as Mr. Tito has. I love Pathfinder, but there's a part of me that wants to roll dice with good ole DnD.
I am... scared.
I think Wizards is dragging their franchise down Square-Enix's Final Fantasy path, and it concerns me greatly.
If they want to resume this path, I highly recommend they look at the rule system for Star Wars Sage Edition. I had thought 3.5e was the greatest d20 system, until I DMed a session of SW Saga Edition and thought 'Holy hell, they've actually perfected the damn thing! Fast and fluid, plus a hoot to enjoy. Bravo'.
But, I will give it a go... at some point.
I think Wizards is dragging their franchise down Square-Enix's Final Fantasy path, and it concerns me greatly.
If they want to resume this path, I highly recommend they look at the rule system for Star Wars Sage Edition. I had thought 3.5e was the greatest d20 system, until I DMed a session of SW Saga Edition and thought 'Holy hell, they've actually perfected the damn thing! Fast and fluid, plus a hoot to enjoy. Bravo'.
But, I will give it a go... at some point.
Yeah, there's a lot of investment involved, which is the main reason I'm usually slow to shift editions.Lord Beautiful said:
Though the confirmation of a new edition kind of puts me in an odd spot. Early last year, my Roleplaying books were all destroyed by the fire in my building (actually, the water used to fight the fire). I recently got into a place where I could afford to actually throw some cash at some RPG titles, but I don't want to invest in 4E until I see how the new iteration plays out. I might like it, I might hate it, but I'd hate to start investing again now.
Maybe I'll just buy an old 3.5E core set and run with that for a while.
In many ways, Saga was a prototype for 4E, so they did sort of go down that path. Unfortunately, only sort of.VoidWanderer said:
It's a shame Saga's no longer on the market. I'm a Star Wars fan and I loved Saga Edition, but apparently there's no money in tabletop Star Wars stuff.
Let's hope this time it goes back to being an RPG instead of a poorly designed wargame. The combat grid has killed roleplaying as early as the Player's Options & Combat in 2e AD&D, somehow i don't think the designers will understand the difference this time around, or ever again. 4e is the apex of that design flaw, every game where moving pieces in the combat grid takes at least 80% of the session time is not about roleplaying anymore its just a heavy and cumbersome boardgame.
The best news so far for me:
EDIT: SIGN UP HERE FOR NOTIFICATION OF THE PLAY TESTING! [http://www.wizards.com/dnd/Article.aspx?x=dnd/4ll/20120109]
source [http://www.enworld.org/forum/news/316036-off-see-wizards-day-wizards-coast-showed-me-d-d-5th-edition.html]
EDIT: SIGN UP HERE FOR NOTIFICATION OF THE PLAY TESTING! [http://www.wizards.com/dnd/Article.aspx?x=dnd/4ll/20120109]
Agreed, I've spent millions of dollars in all the special handbooks suddenly they'll be like "buy em again?"Lord Beautiful said:
Aww. I, literally, just bought a 4th edition Player's handbook. Well I suppose I still need it to play in my friend's campaign.
I'm looking forward to see how they change things.
I'm looking forward to see how they change things.
We backed 4e for a little while. Cause frankly with 3e while the game was great for PCs, the DMs got frustrated after 6th level. Fights would take FOREVER (How many attacks can you do... oh... We're going to watch a movie. hope you'll be done soon after it ends.). Spent hours making cool monster that would be dust in 3 rounds... 3 long rounds. In 4e fights went quicker and monster we made were rememberable and could still be challenging... but the 4e fights seemed to lack soul (as a few people put it). I'm a guy who plays in 5 games a week... 4e is now only 1 night and 3e never goes past 6 level (currently Zero 3e games I'm in). We stopped buying 4e books after the core 3 (plus PHB2,3 and MM2), Not going to give Essentials a try (why would we buy more books about a system that makes us go "meh"). And none of my friends even want to try Pathfinder for all the 3e issues they've had.
That's some creative spin there. D&D was basically dead after 2nd edition, and 3rd edition ressurected it and became massively more popular. 4th edition has essentially been a disaster. All the people I know who played 4th edition have now either gone back to 3E or moved on to Pathfinder. 4th edition was a terrible, poorly designed, amateurish attempt at a game. They should have called it "D&D Tactics" or something, and made it a spin-off, because it does not deserve to be a "real" Dungeons and Dragons game.
I have one rule for improving the next version of D&D. SELL IT IN WAL-MART. Why do I say that? Because there are no game shops anywhere near me and they don't sell it anywhere else.
Allow me to don my 25/- Fire Damage Resisting pantaloons and say:
Thou need to ditch paper and go digital.
BUT D&D IS ABOUT PLAYING FACE TO FACE IN A BASEMENT AND BLAHBLAHBLAH no. It was. It isn't anymore. It worked for nerds in the 80's because thats how nerds in the 80's congregated - in dark rooms and basements with bottles of mountain dew, together. These days nerds have the INTERNET, so they stay in their own dark rooms and basements with bottles of mountain dew, alone.
I need to be able to hop on the internet, build a character sheet, select some char clipart, and find a group and a DM halfway acrossed the world. D&D needs to be a social network with the built in tools and equipment for playing the game including on the fly rule referencing, map making tools, shareible information and PMing, etc.
Thou need to ditch paper and go digital.
BUT D&D IS ABOUT PLAYING FACE TO FACE IN A BASEMENT AND BLAHBLAHBLAH no. It was. It isn't anymore. It worked for nerds in the 80's because thats how nerds in the 80's congregated - in dark rooms and basements with bottles of mountain dew, together. These days nerds have the INTERNET, so they stay in their own dark rooms and basements with bottles of mountain dew, alone.
I need to be able to hop on the internet, build a character sheet, select some char clipart, and find a group and a DM halfway acrossed the world. D&D needs to be a social network with the built in tools and equipment for playing the game including on the fly rule referencing, map making tools, shareible information and PMing, etc.