Its not a farce to hold a rogue demagogue responsible for having the capitol stormed though. That her party ousted her for that says more about the party than about her.
Maybe trying to defend democracy from the rogue demagogue out to overthrow it is in the interest of those constituents. What do they gain from replacing democracy with Donald Trump?
Let's look at the link SilentPony posted:
You are aware this committee has literally no authority to hold Trump accountable for anything, correct?
In each case, "they" constitutes how many, exactly? And these efforts are nowhere even near the level of the Republican efforts to disregard the last election. Not even close.
So? It still investigates his wrongdoings, digs up new information and it can advise agencies that do have the authority to take steps.
Is 4.8 million people sufficient scale to concern you?
It doesn't even really have that power. They can report findings to law enforcement agencies, sure, but that's not advising. Congress has no authority to prosecute crimes, nor any advisory role in those processes. Technically, they aren't even allowed to create a committee to investigate wrongdoings, congressional committees exist to inform policy. The rationalization for the January 6th committee is to better prepare Congress for potential similar acts of violence in the future. Officially, they can't even say the committee has the goal of investigating Trump's wrongdoings.
Considering we're talking about Congresspeople indulging anti-democracy, it doesn't even fulfil the brief.
www.lawfareblog.com
Do you want to fill everyone in on WHY Gore 'took the recounts personally'?Let's look at the link SilentPony posted:
Noteworthy recounts in the United States
Ballotpedia: The Encyclopedia of American Politicsballotpedia.org
1984: Recount for congressional seat, flipped from Republican victory to Democratic victory
2000: Florida was close enough to trigger automatic recount. Bush was still winning. Gore asked for a hand recount of 4 counties. Bush was still winning. Gore asked the courts for a third recount before they finally stopped counting. Then he conceded. Then Democrats objected to the electors on January 6th.
2004: Gubernatorial race in Washington, flipped from Republican victory to Democratic victory after recount
Before I continue through that page, I'm not sure why it fails to count 2004 Ohio as a noteworthy recount. The green party candidate filed for a recount in Ohio, and then accused the state of staging the recount, and then some voters tried to sue to overturn the entire election, and Democrats objected to the electors on January 6th.
2008: Congressional seat in California flips from Republican victory to Democratic victory.
2016: Jill Stein requests multiple recounts in states Trump won. They only mention Wisconsin, because the others got tossed.
2016: The first notable recount on the entire page challenging a Democratic victory, filed by Rocky de la Fuente, who in that year had lost in the Democratic Party and then decided to make his own political party to run in November. (Also, Democrats objected to 10 states worth of electors on January 6th.)
2017: 4 District races in Virginia had a recount, 3 of the 4 initiated by Democrats, 1 by a Republican. All 4 were unsuccessful.
2018: Multiple races in Florida won by Republicans get recounted. A Republican congressional candidate tries to file for a recount until they say he has to pay $5000 to do so.
And I'll stop at 2020 since that's basically what we're talking about already. I'm not disputing that Trump and other Republican candidates have been challenging elections lately.
But prior to the election of Donald Trump, every single notable recount on that page was to benefit Democrats, some of them successfully. In my lifetime (born 90), every single Republican presidential victory has been subject to a recount. In my lifetime, not a single Democratic presidential victory was challenged until 2020. The reason I accuse you of trying to be cute is cause technically, those presidential recounts were all either automatically triggered or filed for by the Green Party candidate. Yeah, sure, technically. But Gore took the recount to court personally, Democrats objected to Ohio's certification after recount, and Clinton supported and participated in the Jill Stein recount efforts. I don't particularly care if they managed to keep their hands clean of filing the paperwork, these were recounts done with Democratic approval that could only possibly have benefitted the Democratic Party.
And then Trump happens, and I cannot stress this enough: Trump acts like a Democrat. All the recount calling and election objections of 2020 exactly parallel what Democrats did in 2016. But as far as the intelligentsia are concerned, 2016 was about trying to stop Trump from destroying democracy, and 2020 was Trump trying to destroy democracy. It's almost like the tactics are unimportant and they only care which party wins...
abcnews.go.com
Good thing he didn't try it at a Beer Hall, he might have had to serve 9.Steve Bannon sentenced to 4 months for contempt, pending appeal
Former Trump adviser Steve Bannon has been sentenced to four months in prison for contempt of Congress, pending an appeal of his case.
Oh wow! Just goes to show you if you plan and execute an attempted coup of the US government and openly defy all investigations and prosecutions, you'll be sentenced to a 4 month hotel stay and as a multimillionaire you'll be fined couch change.
Oh and the judge just lets you say "No" again and voids the entire thing.
You know he's going to have a book about being a hero illegally prosecuted by a corrupt illegitimate government, and it'll be a best seller. He'll make millions off a book about being fined a few thousand.
That's not for his role in the attempted coup, that's for refusing to answer the summon. If he still doesn't agree to it he can be further sentenced for that and there could be other charges based on his role in the day leading up to jan 6th.Steve Bannon sentenced to 4 months for contempt, pending appeal
Former Trump adviser Steve Bannon has been sentenced to four months in prison for contempt of Congress, pending an appeal of his case.
Oh wow! Just goes to show you if you plan and execute an attempted coup of the US government and openly defy all investigations and prosecutions, you'll be sentenced to a 4 month hotel stay and as a multimillionaire you'll be fined couch change.
Oh and the judge just lets you say "No" again and voids the entire thing.
This only proves the futility of the panel if we assume the sole purpose of the panel was to reach an officially-enforcable conclusion and then enforce it. I don't think it ever was.Jan. 6 Panel Issues Subpoena to Trump, Setting Up Legal Battle Over Testimony (Published 2022)
While the former president has suggested he might testify live before the committee, it was far more likely that the demand would lead to a legal fight.www.nytimes.com
And here we see the ultimate futility of the Jan 6th panel. Trump is going to refuse and then what? Call in Boba Fett? Send in the Suicide Squad? Trump has proven we're not a nation of laws, merely traditions and he just doesn't care.
The hope is to have the Republicans run such terrible candidates, even their brain-dead voters will turn away. Its exactly what Hilary did in 2016 with Trump.
