I actually thought that the punchline was that the light went out because Tesla invented the lightbulb, for some reason. Still, I'd wait for this comic to turn up in a humble bundle.
This mistake is a known bug and will be patched when the next build is released in Spring 2014. Until then, it's a feature!MegaR said:Jam Strelong?
The difference is that when you fund kickstarter, you're not a customer buying a product. You're a supporter and a funder, and you know there's a risk of not seeing the final product. But when you buy an early access game, you're buying something that has already been started, and therefore you expect it to reach its eventual completion.Cecilo said:I don't really understand how we can be for Kickstarters and Indiegogo Campaigns but against Early Access and Preorders. There is no guarantee or safety in donating to a Kickstarter, there are no assurances, heck you are not even sure a kickstarter will be in line with what you want. They could change things drastically down the line, completely rework mechanics you wanted.
I guess I am asking why Kickstarter Campaigns don't get the same flak that Preorder/Early Access Games do. It is pretty much the same thing, except you have an idea of what you are getting when you buy an early Access game, when you fund a Kickstarter you are more often than not funding an idea, something not even started yet.
...the warning label is there to let you know that this is not the case. I realize this isn't a catch-all, since the devs write the warning for each game, but it still amazes me that people impulse-buy these when they say stuff likebartholen said:The difference is that when you fund kickstarter, you're not a customer buying a product. You're a supporter and a funder, and you know there's a risk of not seeing the final product. But when you buy an early access game, you're buying something that has already been started, and therefore you expect it to reach its eventual completion.Cecilo said:I don't really understand how we can be for Kickstarters and Indiegogo Campaigns but against Early Access and Preorders. There is no guarantee or safety in donating to a Kickstarter, there are no assurances, heck you are not even sure a kickstarter will be in line with what you want. They could change things drastically down the line, completely rework mechanics you wanted.
I guess I am asking why Kickstarter Campaigns don't get the same flak that Preorder/Early Access Games do. It is pretty much the same thing, except you have an idea of what you are getting when you buy an early Access game, when you fund a Kickstarter you are more often than not funding an idea, something not even started yet.
Haha, true that. I absolutely lost it at #Poor Man's Penny Arcade.Chaosritter said:No matter what the punchline would be, it's most likely better than anything Penny Arcade ever did.
I could swear that Garry's Mod came before Minecraft and was basically in-development most the time it was on sale. Minecraft sure slapped a label on it and said "buy my game in Alpha; buy it in Beta!". The game's basics were all there and it was more or less about adding features to the game.Lvl 64 Klutz said:For those saying they don't understand the problem with Early Access: I think the main issue is it promotes laziness. Call it the Google syndrome (or Minecraft Syndrome, whichever you prefer). The developer is already making money on their game, so there's no need to hurry and finish the game. While that promotes a more bug-free game, it means folks who want to play the completed version of the game will have to wait forever for it to be finished.
Yea, I always felt that peoples view of Early Access is a bit silly. Surely we KNOW what we are getting into, and if we are not willing to deal with the many MANY bugs, lack of content and a posibility that the game will in fact never be what the developers claim it will be, why would we buy into it in the first place?thaluikhain said:Ouch.
OTOH, can't you just not buy early access games until they are finished? Sure, the idea is stupid, but it's an option, not a necessity, right?
For some people that may be true but for most decent people it will promote more work. I know for myself if people were paying for an unfinished product, I would be super motivated to get it done as soon as possible for them. Also it can let deves working jobs as well as developing the game to switch to just developing the game.Lvl 64 Klutz said:For those saying they don't understand the problem with Early Access: I think the main issue is it promotes laziness. Call it the Google syndrome (or Minecraft Syndrome, whichever you prefer). The developer is already making money on their game, so there's no need to hurry and finish the game. While that promotes a more bug-free game, it means folks who want to play the completed version of the game will have to wait forever for it to be finished.
I look at it differently I suppose. When I fund a Kickstarter, I am giving them money for a product eventually. It isn't for their dreams unless I personally know them. For many people I am sure they didn't give money to Star Citizen to see someone fulfill their dream. They WANT a new Space Sim, a really good space sim. They are paying money to eventually see that Space Sim.bartholen said:The difference is that when you fund kickstarter, you're not a customer buying a product. You're a supporter and a funder, and you know there's a risk of not seeing the final product. But when you buy an early access game, you're buying something that has already been started, and therefore you expect it to reach its eventual completion.Cecilo said:I don't really understand how we can be for Kickstarters and Indiegogo Campaigns but against Early Access and Preorders. There is no guarantee or safety in donating to a Kickstarter, there are no assurances, heck you are not even sure a kickstarter will be in line with what you want. They could change things drastically down the line, completely rework mechanics you wanted.
I guess I am asking why Kickstarter Campaigns don't get the same flak that Preorder/Early Access Games do. It is pretty much the same thing, except you have an idea of what you are getting when you buy an early Access game, when you fund a Kickstarter you are more often than not funding an idea, something not even started yet.