Fox12 said:
NewClassic said:
If you really cared about the site, you'd spend less time making these threads, and more time streamlining your thoughts so moderators could read through them quickly.
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If you really want change, I'm happy for you, but public spectacles aren't the way to do it. They only ever waste time.
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if you want to put up long-winded wanted posters about the moderation and administration under the veil of wanting "communication," then the only thing that you'll create for us is staff hours spent on nothing--time we'll never get back and a community that will feel empowered to keep demanding. If you want a moderation team that listens to you, think about the ramifications of your tone, structure, and argument. Make it as easy for us as possible so we can actually do stuff with it without long internal conversations and deviations
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Whatever you want, there are countless better ways to do it.
It's a relief to know how much value the staff place on the community
I streamlined the post so you can read the highlights.
Now, instead of wasting yet
more of my time by having to revisit the same topics, here are some more productive things you could be doing:
Check in with the community you're concerned for. You'll notice so many in this thread feel like this is unnecessary bloviating. Acknowledge that even if you disagree,
this is the community too. I'm not here just for you, these are the community too. They likewise deserve my time, and threads like these take that away from them.
Concentrate your efforts. Pretending there's some magic "Do
x, get praise" answer to complex moderation issues is, at best, condescending. You aren't doing anything by trying to score cheap shot points while feeling like it's making "a point." Instead, focus you energies into narrowing down your whys. Why do you feel like exacting, specific rules will be "better." Why are you so interested in other persons' bans? Figure out whatever x factor you think these details will solve for you, then come forward with that. "Because it's just better." isn't a reason we can work with.
Care. Right now, your snideness makes it seem like you don't really care, you just want to be validated and proven right. Good for you, but no one here cares but you and people who also want the same validation. However, there are hundreds of other users who all have wants from this forum. There are bots that need wrangling. There are pitches than need answering. Articles that need answering. Community documents to be written. Announcements to be worked on. All of these outside of snippy remarks that put people doing you a favor under you. We're already doing work, all I'm asking is that you pretend to do some too. Scoring points isn't work, and it's not working for anyone.
