A query on the limits of a Vampires abilities to walk in light.

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Woem

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Exposing any vampire to direct sunlight disorients it: It can take only a single move action or attack action and is destroyed utterly in the next round if it cannot escape.

Source: System Reference Document [http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/vampire.htm]
 

Samurai Goomba

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I'm going to go with the "explode like semtex for no reason in sunlight" reasoning. The Preacher explanation of vampires makes as much sense as any other.

If I had to guess, I'd say it had to do with UV radiation. So vamps would probably explode near a sunlamp, too. It's been well established that it's not the LIGHT aspect of sunlight that kills them. Maybe they can't take any radiation.
 

Erana

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Its all silly.
I mean, if you go and say that vampires are anything more than generic hobgoblins, or things that go bump in the night of lore, then you're going to run into all sorts of inconsistencies.
 

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Baggie said:
If we're going off the whole vampires being magical beings rules than the sunlight coming from the actual sun because of... goodness from the sun or something. Doesn't bounce.

Following "Science" rules, they have an extremely fatal sensetivity to UV rays. Meaning vampire proofing a room would take some UV lights.

If we're following twightlight rules everything is bullshit and the entire world is filled with anxty teenagers that sparkle. The bastards.

I don't get the idea that vampires can go out into the sun, it's like saying the established rule-set of "Drinks blood, can't go into sunlight" isn't good enough.
This "established rule" originated in 1922. The vampire legends are MUCH older than that and don't include it.
Suggested reading:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vampire

Surprisingly interesting to read the history of them.
 

Timewave Zero

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cthulhu257 said:
When was the last time someone got sunburned from standing in the moonlight for too long?
No-one, obviously. But we're talking about VAMPIRES here. Do try to stay on the subject.
 

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Magnatek said:
VanityGirl said:
Ahem, actually since the invention of vampires there's been many different takes on what vampires can and can't do.
For example:
In anime called Black Blood Brothers, each vampire has different strengths and weaknesses. Some can't go into the sunlight, but some can. Some will die if silver cuts them, some won't.

It depends on what kind of vampires you're talking about. Old school vampires can't go outside, but are also allergic to garlic and will be killed by crosses.

I like the scenario where some vampires can actually go into daylight. (Not all sparkly, but you know). I could understand them being sensitive to sunlight, but I like the fact that if a vampire can come out at night as well as day, then you always have to fear being bitten.
What about their reaction to water? There are multiple interpretations on that front as well. In some cases, only holy water can hurt them (see Dracula in Castlevania), while in other cases, water in general is acidic to vampires (see Legacy of Kain).
[sub]I'm only trying to add on to your response. I was pretty much going to say the same thing you did, except with what I added, and replacing the anime bits with more on Legacy of Kain.[/sub]
Holy poop, I'm glad you said something, I forgot about that! :)
Vampires are fictional creatues, hell zombies have stopped being slow, fumbling creatures and can now run and use weapons.

It's what you make of the creature in question that makes them scary. I've always found vampires to be more...sauve. The dracula in Van Helsing seemed very cultured and interesting to me, not just a blood hungry creature.
 

TheMatt

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teisjm said:
You get sun burned if you're staying in the sun too long.
I've never heard of anyone, not even nocturnal nudtsts who got sunburned by the stars or the moon.
lol, I just have to comment that this post was very eloquent, insightful and altogether hilarious.

Btw, how many nocturnal nudists have you actually spoken too? I can;t lie to you, i haven;t even met one.
 

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StevieWonderMk2 said:
Baggie said:
If we're going off the whole vampires being magical beings rules than the sunlight coming from the actual sun because of... goodness from the sun or something. Doesn't bounce.

Following "Science" rules, they have an extremely fatal sensetivity to UV rays. Meaning vampire proofing a room would take some UV lights.

If we're following twightlight rules everything is bullshit and the entire world is filled with anxty teenagers that sparkle. The bastards.

I don't get the idea that vampires can go out into the sun, it's like saying the established rule-set of "Drinks blood, can't go into sunlight" isn't good enough.
This "established rule" originated in 1922. The vampire legends are MUCH older than that and don't include it.
Suggested reading:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vampire

Surprisingly interesting to read the history of them.
Thanks, StevieWonderMk2.
After having read the page, I learned that the traditional folkloric Vampire isn't harmed by sunlight, but it makes it powerless.

Wow, this thread is now absolutely pointless.
 

Datalord

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Well, according to the most common Eastern European tradition (or at least this is what my dad told me he learned growing up in slovakia) Vampires are a physical embodiement of darkness and evil, ergo embodiments of good (crucifix) or light (sunlight) are their bane, the positive to thier negative, cancelling each other out, so vampires should not be able to stand light of an intensity that is equal to or greater than their personal concentration of darkness or kindness equal to or greater than their internal hatred.

So all light should weaken vampires, but the frequency and intensity of the electromagnetic radiation change how much the vampire is weakened or killed, so sunlight, which is very powerful, would have a greater effect than a candle or the other stars, and gamma radiation, which has a very high frequency, should do wonders for a vampire infestation.

So if you're a vampire, sucks for you to get cancer, 'cause gamma knife treatment, radiation treatment, and chemo are all out for you.

I have no idea why garlic is their bane though.
 

Ryuk2

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Vampires die from ultra violet light not the sun light itself.
Like when in 30 days of 30 night's one vampire gets burn by ultra violet light.
 

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ok, i dont care if someone has beaten me to this or not, but i feel compelled to say something

VAMPIRES CAN WALK IN DAYLIGHT

they just dont like to.
the reason is that they are NOCTURNAL creatures and operate highly efficiently at nighttime, but during they day they are TIRED. they would like a nap.

The whole reason for OMG SUNLIGHT NOW I AM ON TEH FIRES! is misunderstanding the myth.

then it was popularized by dipshits, who then inspired other dipshits and now we have twilight

Mr. Stoker would be appalled.



now, to elaborate and reiterate, NOCTURNAL things dont go out in sunlight. additionally, in response to the "but starlight is just far-off suns!" yes, it sort of is, but there is MUCH LESS LIGHT at nighttime when the LOCAL ball-o-fire isnt hanging about in your face.

So its less bright and less warm, two things that the vampire fears because of heightened sensory ability

Rosemary and garlic do not keep vampires away because of magic, its because they CANT TAKE TO OVERPOWERING ODOR. and when you adapt to life at night, sunlight bothers the crap out of you

the myth that they cant cross running water, must untie knots, and count things comes from the idea that they are obsessive.

additionally, more ranting
 

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The stupid part is when it's implied they're immune to bullets, or being hacked into pieces. Sorry, but whoever thought that up clearly needs to work on their understanding of basic physics.
 

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Onmi said:
No we can trash a new vampire franchise for plenty of other reasons. Shit writing, unlikable bland characters, predictable plot twists, boring setting, poor understanding of mythology period, being mormon propaganda.

To name a few
Exactly, why trash it for stuff that's not really accurate when there are so many perfectly valid reasons for slating that piece of crap series?
 

teisjm

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TheMatt said:
teisjm said:
You get sun burned if you're staying in the sun too long.
I've never heard of anyone, not even nocturnal nudtsts who got sunburned by the stars or the moon.
lol, I just have to comment that this post was very eloquent, insightful and altogether hilarious.

Btw, how many nocturnal nudists have you actually spoken too? I can;t lie to you, i haven;t even met one.
Dunno how many... a few weeks ago at a party 4 of my friends decided to get nude and run around outside, and it was past midnight... does that count?