A Question about Porn [Adults Only?]

[RanD00M]

Fucked if I know. I only watch lesbian or solo female scenes nowadays anyway.

But it isn't a question of who does the deed as long as the deed is done. Most men use pron as an escape and since heterosexual porn is the norm and easiest to find, I guess they just "grab" what is closest to them and have a quick wank. I doubt many men put any real thought of where the shot is as long as there is a naked chick somewhere in there.

 

[Mr Thin]

So many people not understanding the question. Or at least not answering it. There's usually a few, but this is ridiculous.

The OP isn't asking for a solution, so stop telling him to use lesbians. I'm pretty sure that's occurred to him.

And for everyone saying it's about projecting yourself onto the man, and imagining you are him... surely that would be easier if the camera didn't show his face? If all you saw of him was a bit of his body and, you know, genitals?

I wasn't deriding anyone in my first post. I noted the OPs failure to mention the active role of women in sex from the language of his OP. I went on to say that many men (including, perhaps the OP), and later, our culture in general view men as the sole active partners in sex. I further clarified that this is why I believe men are visually more prominent in heterosexual porn.

OP later clarified that he doesn't have this view, but it should be clear where the humor is in people who hold male-centric views of sex complaining about too much focus being paid to men in porn.

I'm quite sure of my own intentions.

You're turning this into something it isn't.

The OP just wants to know why porn made for straight men would spend any time focusing on the man involved. It doesn't matter how 'male-centric' a straight guy is, he's not watching straight porn for the chance to see another man orgasm, he's watching it to see a woman get screwed. For some strange reason, hetero porn tends to flip from the latter to the former, usually near the... finish.

The OP wants to know why. That's all it is.

 

[quantumsoul]

Both men and women watch hetero porn. Even couples do to. Why is it arousing when you're seeing someone of the same gender as you being pleasured? Are you focusing on that person? I doubt it. There's a reason why guys in porn are seen as props.

 

[jopomeister]

This is exactly why I only ever watch girls solo. Lesbian porn tends to be staged and about as real as Hentai, and heterosexual porn... Well, the dudes grunts put me right off >:C

 

[Nashidar]

You're turning this into something it isn't.

The OP just wants to know why porn made for straight men would spend any time focusing on the man involved. It doesn't matter how 'male-centric' a straight guy is, he's not watching straight porn for the chance to see another man orgasm, he's watching it to see a woman get screwed. For some strange reason, hetero porn tends to flip from the latter to the former, usually near the... finish.

The OP wants to know why. That's all it is.

This is why I tend to watch 2 girls and 1 guy (note: not 1 cup ) clips. More girl time in those ones.

However - to address a certain point - porn is NOT made for straight men.

Porn is made for everybody. Simple.

This is why the man gets focused on as well. A lot of women find it particularly arousing seeing a man about to ejaculate so - if they are imaging the man is doing them - that is what they want to see.

Porn has - to put it one way - matured to a point that it can be watched by both men and women of whatever sexual persuasion.

Also - the fact that porn is now more accommodating of women viewers - is really good for me.

 

[Jaime_Wolf]

I think the notion is that a lot of men are into watching people having sex rather than a woman with a particularly fleshy dildo.

What I don't understand is why they inevitably cast absolutely hideous men in these situations. Either pretend the men aren't there or do some actual goddamn casting.

men in porn are chosen for their penis and sexual talents, not their physical attraction, because, like we've all been discussing, porn is usually for guys, and guys don't care about a guy's physical attraction, because he's only there to serve as a surrogate person on a subconscious level.

I think of porn like dancing. If you enjoy watching dancing, isn't it better to watch two people dance together? sex is kind of a dance designed for 2 people. Sure, if you had a woman on screen dancing a 2 person dance by herself, it MIGHT be easier to imagine yourself dancing with her. But the dance video with 2 people dancing the dance will be a much better video, and you can STILL imagine yourself dancing with her.

I get that that's why they're chosen. My point was that that doesn't make sense when you're also showing shots of the men, as discussed in the OP.

 

[Owyn_Merrilin]

That is something that kind of bothers me about straight porn -- way too much focus on the dude. Seems like just about every video on the internet prominently features a blow job, and they almost always have a camera angle more focused on the guy than on the girl. How on earth is that supposed to be sexy for men? I mean, I know, there's the whole "putting yourself in the picture" aspect, but for most men, porn is purely visual stimulation. There's not much conscious thought going through their heads aside from "Oooh, nekkid ladies doing sexy things. Me gusta." I remember some comedian or a line in a movie or something to that effect, about just how oddly homoerotic vintage straight porn was. As far as I can tell, modern porn isn't much better.


Incidentally, before anyone tells me that straight porn is for both sexes, being, you know, straight porn: it depends on the video. Straight porn aimed at women tends to have a different feel to it than the stuff aimed at men.

 

[ihax4snax]

I could not have put it better myself.

 

[Keepeas]

Because I can't imagine what lesbian sex feels like..no matter how hot and into it the girls may be...
That said...I really don't want to see the guy...ever...but I can imagine I AM him...

Wait...what do females want to see in porn?........maybe I don't want to know....
but most of the stuff out there is focused on the woman(aimed toward men, supposedly)...
do women like watching other women "in the act"?....that's kinda hot....

 

[ezeroast]

I love how the OP generally typifies sex as something a man does with a woman or "girl" rather than something two people do together.

Perhaps not everyone has your particularly male centric view of sex?

Porn generally is hetero, no not all but more is than isn't.

 

[AdmiralMemo]

Yeah, It's like role playing. You are the guy! I personally don't see it.
There is such a thing as lesbian porn.

It doesn't bother me as long as the dude isn't some ugly fuck with a porn stache, but I'm assuming you don't like it because seeing their face and hearing them talk makes it harder to imagine the guy as you right? I feel you.

So, to put a video game analogy onto this, it's more like Half Life and less like Final Fantasy. I.E. in Half Life, you ARE Gordon Freeman, whereas in Final Fantasy, you PLAY as the characters.

 

[gigastrike]

You're supposed to project yourself onto them.

 

[Death God]

That's why I watch lesbians or a girl masturbating instead. Takes the guy out of the equation all together.

 

[Koroviev]

I can't stop laughing at the comic. It's so...so true.

OT: POV is ideal because the man (or presumably unsightly lady) is holding the camera.

 

[Baneat]

Vicariousness(sp?)

they don't really get much screentime anyway, they're paid so much less than the women it's unbelievable.

 

[BonsaiK]

Why is it that a heterosexual male would want to watch another guy having sex when he is watching porn - presumably as a pleasurable activity?

The idea is that when you watch it, you imagine that you're that guy, doing that stuff with that girl. And if you're the girl, you imagine being that girl, having that guy do that stuff with you.

Even worse is when the male actor starts talking or the camera focuses on him or similar - why is this in porn?

Because it's something that (some) people who are into guys (for example, heterosexual girls, who also watch porn, by the way) really like to see. Same with the close-up of the guy's face.

Strange as it may seem, heterosexual porn is not just for heterosexual men.

 

[gillebro]

It's wish-fulfilment, IMO. The bloke imagines himself in the bloke position. I'd say that girls who watch porn often do the same sort of thing, hence why we don't always watch gay male porn.

 

[DRes82]

Hehehe

TIL british people actually do say "bloke"

OT: i prefer my pron without dude all up in it.

 

[Dreiko_v1legacy]

It's quite simple really (someone may have already said it, I'm not going through 3 pages of posts).


We project ourselves onto the guy during porn. That's why usually guys have large junk, as we watch it, we're not watching some guy's junk, we're projecting so we're actually watching a representation of our own junk as we are having sex with the woman. We're the guy, we're not looking at the guy, even if they guy shows up you're not really paying attention to it in the same fashion you look at the girl. (if you're straight)


It sorta explains all that crazy tentacle stuff too, I mean, when there's a monster having it's way with 5 girls at the same time, it's like we are doing that, that's the fantasy we perceive and why this type of material gets made.

 

[MaxwellMurder]

I LOVE LESBIAN OIL WRESTLING!!!!