A question for girls...

[Fusionxl]

so um there was some girl on girl action. luckily me and some friends were around the next time to stop it from happening

Stop it from happening? STOP? Why on earth would you want to do that, the sight of two girls kissing is simply mesmerizing. God saves kittens for that kind of stuff

 

[p3t3r]

so um there was some girl on girl action. luckily me and some friends were around the next time to stop it from happening

Stop it from happening? STOP? Why on earth would you want to do that, the sight of two girls kissing is simply mesmerizing. God saves kittens for that kind of stuff

well we um stopped it with our own mouths

 

[likalaruku]

I think men's need to seem absolutely masculine at all times makes them a bit cowardly, like they hold more things to be taboo than women do. The girls I hang out with dig yaoi (& the guys I hang out with dig yuri), so any bisexual guy willing to put on a show is ace in their books. We don't even understand why guys think gey & bi men are less manly. Alexander the Great, Zeus, Herkles (Hercules), Apollo, samurai, & Batman's Joker were all bisexual &/or mostly gay.

 

[Quaxar]

I've both hugged and touched men's chestarea (well not directly, they were dressed and all, but still...) so I'm playful now? Damn not I am, that was for the sheer fun.
Then again had I done the latter thing to any woman I'd have gotten slapped pretty hard (okay one exception, but she knows I'm totally crazy and sexually not interested in her). Fuck playfulness, kissing and grabbing is damn straight bisexual!

Girls who do that are almost always doing it for attention, plain and simple, whether they claim otherwise or not. That said, it is far more socially acceptable for women to be physically affectionate with each other than it is for men to be, because that is seen as nurturing (read: feminine) behavior.

Listen to her, her name is yellow, she posesses the gift of ultimate truth!
Gah, why does that sound like an insult? Actually I just wanted to agree and be a little more creative than "this".

 

[TheYellowCellPhone]

It's an observation I too have noticed. As far as I know there's been no kissing but a lot of hugging and hand holding between girls. But for us manly guys if we need reassurance we just have a group grunt.

 

[Wraithspine]

As for the OP's making out for the hell of it scenario. My personal opinion is that girls are more affectionate than blokes so they are naturally intimate, And they don't have the social stigma that man on man has. I myself wouldn't make out with another man as I have no feelings towards other men but women may have, hence they fool around with each other.

 

[the Dept of Science]

First off: Girls who do that are almost always doing it for attention, plain and simple, whether they claim otherwise or not. That said, it is far more socially acceptable for women to be physically affectionate with each other than it is for men to be, because that is seen as nurturing (read: feminine) behavior.

Guys are so worried about being judged as unmanly, because they're looked down on for showing practically any emotion other than anger or lust. (Unless it's their family.) Think about it: a girl sees her friend, gives her a hug hello, no big deal at all. A guy does the same thing, he gets called "fag". (He can, perhaps, do the shoulder bump or shake hands, but that's about it.) It's really unfair, honestly. So it's not so much that girls are more open-minded than boys, it's just that they're allowed to be more openly affectionate than boys.

I don't think this is quite true because most guys I know wouldn't do anything gay even if there was no social consequence. The idea of, say, kissing a guy has a yuk-factor for a lot of men. Speaking personally, I wouldn't kiss a guy for the same reason I wouldn't kiss a dog, something inside me has an aversion, which I don't believe (entirely) comes from social conditioning.
I'm no authority on how women feel, but I know straight girls who don't appear to kiss girls out of any social pressure, but because they genuinely want to.

 

[kimba_lion]

I'm a girl, and I don't randomly grab my friend's chests or make out with them for the heck of it. Although it may occasionally happen if I'm drunk off my ass.

I'd say it just depends on the individual. It's not really that girls are more open minded, but that I think there's more of a negative stereotype for men who are gay than lesbians.

also a girl and agreeing, but every female in the entire world is different maybe its just what them and there friends do. me personally i wouldnt do that it would just be a little wrong.

 

[Susan Arendt]

First off: Girls who do that are almost always doing it for attention, plain and simple, whether they claim otherwise or not. That said, it is far more socially acceptable for women to be physically affectionate with each other than it is for men to be, because that is seen as nurturing (read: feminine) behavior.

Guys are so worried about being judged as unmanly, because they're looked down on for showing practically any emotion other than anger or lust. (Unless it's their family.) Think about it: a girl sees her friend, gives her a hug hello, no big deal at all. A guy does the same thing, he gets called "fag". (He can, perhaps, do the shoulder bump or shake hands, but that's about it.) It's really unfair, honestly. So it's not so much that girls are more open-minded than boys, it's just that they're allowed to be more openly affectionate than boys.

I don't think this is quite true because most guys I know wouldn't do anything gay even if there was no social consequence. The idea of, say, kissing a guy has a yuk-factor for a lot of men. Speaking personally, I wouldn't kiss a guy for the same reason I wouldn't kiss a dog, something inside me has an aversion, which I don't believe (entirely) comes from social conditioning.
I'm no authority on how women feel, but I know straight girls who don't appear to kiss girls out of any social pressure, but because they genuinely want to.

It's not social pressure at all, merely socially acceptable. (I'm not referencing girls who kiss girls for sexual reasons, which is also far more socially acceptable.)

Well, you say it's not because of social conditioning, but clearly you consider kissing to have a certain connotation or value, which is why it's ok for some people, but not others. Why is kissing a guy - who you don't find physically attractive - a "yuk" factor unless you consider kissing to have a connotation other than affection? But let's make it even more platonic - what about just giving him a great big hug? Something else you probably wouldn't do, because it would feel weird to you.

I'm not saying you're doing anything bad or wrong, just what you've been conditioned to do. Boys aren't supposed to express affection for other boys, period, the end. Could be your best friend in the entire world, you still can't give him a hug or you're "teh gay!" Which, in my opinion, sucks.

 

[the Dept of Science]

Her stuff

My stuff

It's not social pressure at all, merely socially acceptable. (I'm not referencing girls who kiss girls for sexual reasons, which is also far more socially acceptable.)

Well, you say it's not because of social conditioning, but clearly you consider kissing to have a certain connotation or value, which is why it's ok for some people, but not others. Why is kissing a guy - who you don't find physically attractive - a "yuk" factor unless you consider kissing to have a connotation other than affection? But let's make it even more platonic - what about just giving him a great big hug? Something else you probably wouldn't do, because it would feel weird to you.

I'm not saying you're doing anything bad or wrong, just what you've been conditioned to do. Boys aren't supposed to express affection for other boys, period, the end. Could be your best friend in the entire world, you still can't give him a hug or you're "teh gay!" Which, in my opinion, sucks.

In fact, I'm good with hugs, and same with pretty much every guy I know. Hello hugs, goodbye hugs, congradulatory hugs etc. I don't even think its a problem with showing affection, while I'm wouldn't say something like "I love you" to a friend, we do do it, even if in quite a subtle way.
However, I think there is something inside me, deeper than social acceptability or conditioning that gives me an aversion to actual sexual intimacy with a man. If I was told that I had an opertunity to make out with an attractive male and noone would ever find out (ie. social factors not coming into play), I would still say no.

 

[Treefingers]

Edit:BTW I asked those girls if they do it for attention which they replied, "No we don't care what people think of us, we just do it cuz its fun."

They lied to you. Unless they are actual lesbians, it was for attention.

I think that guys are just more worried about their sexuality. More worried about being labelled as gay. That and there is more of social stigma about gay men. Women being all close and cuddly is much more socially acceptable. Plus guys get off to it. That's not the case for man on man stuff.

I'll happily hug guy mates and stuff. Making out with them would be a bit too gay for me though.

 

[armaina]

I.. what? I've never grabbed a woman's chest or made out 'just because' Sure some girls might be comfortable with it, but I've never made out with anyone that I didn't have feelings for.

So no, it's not that women are more 'open minded', especially since boob grabbing often is used as a from of teasing, either for being too big or too small. The 'making out' is often due to the taboo of it, either because they are curious or because they have something to prove. And most girls that do it in public and claim they aren't doing it for attention, are lying, if at least to themselves. If not for the attention, they're doing it for the rush.

Making out with random people for no romantic reason at all does not make you open minded. However, kisses on the cheek are nothing, and light kisses on the cheek are often used as a form of greeting in some places in the same way a hug is.

 

[Treefingers]

First off: Girls who do that are almost always doing it for attention, plain and simple, whether they claim otherwise or not. That said, it is far more socially acceptable for women to be physically affectionate with each other than it is for men to be, because that is seen as nurturing (read: feminine) behavior.

Guys are so worried about being judged as unmanly, because they're looked down on for showing practically any emotion other than anger or lust. (Unless it's their family.) Think about it: a girl sees her friend, gives her a hug hello, no big deal at all. A guy does the same thing, he gets called "fag". (He can, perhaps, do the shoulder bump or shake hands, but that's about it.) It's really unfair, honestly. So it's not so much that girls are more open-minded than boys, it's just that they're allowed to be more openly affectionate than boys.

I don't think this is quite true because most guys I know wouldn't do anything gay even if there was no social consequence. The idea of, say, kissing a guy has a yuk-factor for a lot of men. Speaking personally, I wouldn't kiss a guy for the same reason I wouldn't kiss a dog, something inside me has an aversion, which I don't believe (entirely) comes from social conditioning.
I'm no authority on how women feel, but I know straight girls who don't appear to kiss girls out of any social pressure, but because they genuinely want to.

It's not social pressure at all, merely socially acceptable. (I'm not referencing girls who kiss girls for sexual reasons, which is also far more socially acceptable.)

Well, you say it's not because of social conditioning, but clearly you consider kissing to have a certain connotation or value, which is why it's ok for some people, but not others. Why is kissing a guy - who you don't find physically attractive - a "yuk" factor unless you consider kissing to have a connotation other than affection? But let's make it even more platonic - what about just giving him a great big hug? Something else you probably wouldn't do, because it would feel weird to you.

I'm not saying you're doing anything bad or wrong, just what you've been conditioned to do. Boys aren't supposed to express affection for other boys, period, the end. Could be your best friend in the entire world, you still can't give him a hug or you're "teh gay!" Which, in my opinion, sucks.

I concur.

That said, I happily man-hug all my man-friends and I am awesome.

 

[Marik2]

First off: Girls who do that are almost always doing it for attention, plain and simple, whether they claim otherwise or not. That said, it is far more socially acceptable for women to be physically affectionate with each other than it is for men to be, because that is seen as nurturing (read: feminine) behavior.

Guys are so worried about being judged as unmanly, because they're looked down on for showing practically any emotion other than anger or lust. (Unless it's their family.) Think about it: a girl sees her friend, gives her a hug hello, no big deal at all. A guy does the same thing, he gets called "fag". (He can, perhaps, do the shoulder bump or shake hands, but that's about it.) It's really unfair, honestly. So it's not so much that girls are more open-minded than boys, it's just that they're allowed to be more openly affectionate than boys.

Ah I see thanks for clearing that up. And in my high school it was cool that guys gave each other hugs, but I only shook hands not cuz I was afraid of being called gay I just thought it felt unnatural to me hugging another guy, I felt as if I was going to be crushed I just feel safer in the arms of a girl.

 

[RhombusHatesYou]

A few of my mates are wary of me hugging them when I've had a few whiskies.

Like cracked ribs are that much of a hassle.

 

[Veldt Falsetto]

Well I have a lot of male friends who in secondary school were fine with feeling each others asses or seeing each other naked.

They'd never kiss but they've playfully done other things...and taken baths together...thats weird to me

 

[Veldt Falsetto]

First off: Girls who do that are almost always doing it for attention, plain and simple, whether they claim otherwise or not. That said, it is far more socially acceptable for women to be physically affectionate with each other than it is for men to be, because that is seen as nurturing (read: feminine) behavior.

Guys are so worried about being judged as unmanly, because they're looked down on for showing practically any emotion other than anger or lust. (Unless it's their family.) Think about it: a girl sees her friend, gives her a hug hello, no big deal at all. A guy does the same thing, he gets called "fag". (He can, perhaps, do the shoulder bump or shake hands, but that's about it.) It's really unfair, honestly. So it's not so much that girls are more open-minded than boys, it's just that they're allowed to be more openly affectionate than boys.

I don't think this is quite true because most guys I know wouldn't do anything gay even if there was no social consequence. The idea of, say, kissing a guy has a yuk-factor for a lot of men. Speaking personally, I wouldn't kiss a guy for the same reason I wouldn't kiss a dog, something inside me has an aversion, which I don't believe (entirely) comes from social conditioning.
I'm no authority on how women feel, but I know straight girls who don't appear to kiss girls out of any social pressure, but because they genuinely want to.

It's not social pressure at all, merely socially acceptable. (I'm not referencing girls who kiss girls for sexual reasons, which is also far more socially acceptable.)

Well, you say it's not because of social conditioning, but clearly you consider kissing to have a certain connotation or value, which is why it's ok for some people, but not others. Why is kissing a guy - who you don't find physically attractive - a "yuk" factor unless you consider kissing to have a connotation other than affection? But let's make it even more platonic - what about just giving him a great big hug? Something else you probably wouldn't do, because it would feel weird to you.

I'm not saying you're doing anything bad or wrong, just what you've been conditioned to do. Boys aren't supposed to express affection for other boys, period, the end. Could be your best friend in the entire world, you still can't give him a hug or you're "teh gay!" Which, in my opinion, sucks.

I'd hug anyone, male or not, my friends and I hug often infact if theres a need for it.

I'd never kiss someone I'm not into physically and emotionally though, even on the cheek, I just think it's weird to kiss someone you don't fancy, regardless of gender.

I'd say I'm not at all manly and I don't care for convention but feeling people up and kissing people I don't fancy is wrong and weird to me

 

[Susan Arendt]

First off: Girls who do that are almost always doing it for attention, plain and simple, whether they claim otherwise or not. That said, it is far more socially acceptable for women to be physically affectionate with each other than it is for men to be, because that is seen as nurturing (read: feminine) behavior.

Guys are so worried about being judged as unmanly, because they're looked down on for showing practically any emotion other than anger or lust. (Unless it's their family.) Think about it: a girl sees her friend, gives her a hug hello, no big deal at all. A guy does the same thing, he gets called "fag". (He can, perhaps, do the shoulder bump or shake hands, but that's about it.) It's really unfair, honestly. So it's not so much that girls are more open-minded than boys, it's just that they're allowed to be more openly affectionate than boys.

I don't think this is quite true because most guys I know wouldn't do anything gay even if there was no social consequence. The idea of, say, kissing a guy has a yuk-factor for a lot of men. Speaking personally, I wouldn't kiss a guy for the same reason I wouldn't kiss a dog, something inside me has an aversion, which I don't believe (entirely) comes from social conditioning.
I'm no authority on how women feel, but I know straight girls who don't appear to kiss girls out of any social pressure, but because they genuinely want to.

It's not social pressure at all, merely socially acceptable. (I'm not referencing girls who kiss girls for sexual reasons, which is also far more socially acceptable.)

Well, you say it's not because of social conditioning, but clearly you consider kissing to have a certain connotation or value, which is why it's ok for some people, but not others. Why is kissing a guy - who you don't find physically attractive - a "yuk" factor unless you consider kissing to have a connotation other than affection? But let's make it even more platonic - what about just giving him a great big hug? Something else you probably wouldn't do, because it would feel weird to you.

I'm not saying you're doing anything bad or wrong, just what you've been conditioned to do. Boys aren't supposed to express affection for other boys, period, the end. Could be your best friend in the entire world, you still can't give him a hug or you're "teh gay!" Which, in my opinion, sucks.

I'd hug anyone, male or not, my friends and I hug often infact if theres a need for it.

I'd never kiss someone I'm not into physically and emotionally though, even on the cheek, I just think it's weird to kiss someone you don't fancy, regardless of gender.

I'd say I'm not at all manly and I don't care for convention but feeling people up and kissing people I don't fancy is wrong and weird to me

Well, honestly, I don't get the copping a feel thing, either, but I know girls that do, just to be goofy. But I hug and kiss my girlfriends all the time.

 

[Snownine]

Is it true that girls are more open minded than guys? I was having a conversation with a ladyfriend and she was telling me how girls like to grab each others chest and make out just for the hell of it. And I asked, "Doesn't that make you gay?" and she told me, "No its just that girls are just more playful than guys and are more open minded."

So, kinda like how it's completely heterosexual for a guy to jerk off another guy, as long as one of them says "not gay" afterwards?

Dude, that was awesome.

OT: Culture is the primary determining factor here. "open mindedness" varies between cultures. In western cultures such as the United States it may be true however even then you will find many exceptions.

 

[JoshGod]

anyone else thinking the same thing?
LESBIAN CHICKEN!!
by god its overdue.

also i dont think you can say someone is open minded because they will grab someone elses chest.