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Their Inbox will become an Xbox

That said, ok, so what? What does this matter? What does this actually do for customers? Like I said before, is the new plan to drop a nothingburger every day until the ship somehow rights itself?
 
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I blame Microsoft for this. Sony was doing good because Microsoft was a viable competitor, but now that Xbox sucks Sony doesn't need to try and they can impliment dogshit business practices upon people because Playstation owners have no other options.
This reminds me of how sports teams will sometimes, or often get comfortable with a big lead, then slack off and end up maybe even losing the game. Sony’s leadership shouldn’t get comfy with a lead. They should be performing at least above average regardless. I think it’s also up to the consumer base to keep them in check.
 

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Microsoft is making these statements about Xbox and hardware during a time when the AI craze is driving up component prices so much that people are very worried about what the new console, Project Helix, might cost when it releases. "The crisis is not yet getting better," Ball said, admitting that he previously underestimated how bad things might get.
Today, demand for Xbox consoles is outstripping supply, Ball said. "We are producing them as quickly as possible. These is a severe limitation to how quickly we can do that, but it's not a question of appetite," he said. "That is a prilvege as a company. It is a challenge for us to figure out."

How will this all impact Project Helix? Ball said, "We are working very hard to rethink everything that we can about Helix, which is a console we are committed to shipping."

"We are very cognizant of the ways in which we need the change as a company to make sure it is affordable, to make sure that it's flexible," he added. "We are working hard to rethinking what that console model can look like, not in an exclusionary way, but in an additive way, so that as we take a look at this crisis, which may have acute effects for 2-2.5 years."
Demand for Xbox consoles outstrips supply? Oof, supply is well and truly fucked.

Also, ************, your company shares blame for that very situation.
 
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So Microsoft is recommitting to console exclusives, which I do think is essential for their brand, if they want to continue to be in the console space (which they seem to be positioning themselves to be). But what I take issue with, is their bizarre split between what games are going to be Xbox exclusives, and what games aren't, especially when it seems like it is right at the end of the console generation.

Xbox is just about to release (by my count) 7 first party games, but has announced that 5 of them will still be coming to the PS5 - including Halo!

Who is going to buy an Xbox - especially in this economy - specifically to play Gears, Clockwork Revolution, Halo Infinite and whatever Xbox One exclusives are backwards compatible, that people still didn't buy an Xbox One for, now that they have already ported over the rest of their Series exclusives over to Playstation? If Xbox commits to releasing all 7 of these games exclusively on Xbox, they would probably have a case, but this random split doesn't make much sense to me.

It just seems like Xbox is putting those exclusives out to die, whilst letting the rest of their catalogue thrive on other platforms.
 

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So Microsoft is recommitting to console exclusives, which I do think is essential for their brand, if they want to continue to be in the console space (which they seem to be positioning themselves to be). But what I take issue with, is their bizarre split between what games are going to be Xbox exclusives, and what games aren't, especially when it seems like it is right at the end of the console generation.

Xbox is just about to release (by my count) 7 first party games, but has announced that 5 of them will still be coming to the PS5 - including Halo!

Who is going to buy an Xbox - especially in this economy - specifically to play Gears, Clockwork Revolution, Halo Infinite and whatever Xbox One exclusives are backwards compatible, that people still didn't buy an Xbox One for, now that they have already ported over the rest of their Series exclusives over to Playstation? If Xbox commits to releasing all 7 of these games exclusively on Xbox, they would probably have a case, but this random split doesn't make much sense to me.

It just seems like Xbox is putting those exclusives out to die, whilst letting the rest of their catalogue thrive on other platforms.
The problem with MS/XBOX is this:


 

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The problem with MS/XBOX is this:


Since I see a blank space either something went wrong with your post or you are trying to say that Microsoft's list of problems contains no items in quirky way. I assume the former.
 

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Since I see a blank space either something went wrong with your post or you are trying to say that Microsoft's list of problems contains no items in quirky way. I assume the former.
Which web browser are you using? It shows up fine on firefox and google chrome.

I am referencing the Simpsons flip plop joke.

 

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So Microsoft is recommitting to console exclusives, which I do think is essential for their brand, if they want to continue to be in the console space (which they seem to be positioning themselves to be). But what I take issue with, is their bizarre split between what games are going to be Xbox exclusives, and what games aren't, especially when it seems like it is right at the end of the console generation.

Xbox is just about to release (by my count) 7 first party games, but has announced that 5 of them will still be coming to the PS5 - including Halo!

Who is going to buy an Xbox - especially in this economy - specifically to play Gears, Clockwork Revolution, Halo Infinite and whatever Xbox One exclusives are backwards compatible, that people still didn't buy an Xbox One for, now that they have already ported over the rest of their Series exclusives over to Playstation? If Xbox commits to releasing all 7 of these games exclusively on Xbox, they would probably have a case, but this random split doesn't make much sense to me.

It just seems like Xbox is putting those exclusives out to die, whilst letting the rest of their catalogue thrive on other platforms.
They're going to do 1st party exclusives. But also multiplatform. But also 3rd party exclusives. They're going to be a platform. But also a publisher. Recommit to Xbox. And fire a bunch of people.

You know what would be nice?

Clear messaging.

What is Xbox? What is Xbox going to be? But nah, every day execs doing new interviews, putting as many soundbites out there as possible. And every other day the story changes, so it's all confusing af. You know who also did a lot of talking? Phil Spencer. His tenure went great, so yeah, let's run that playbook again.
 

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Ok, here's my take on the whole XBOX thing...

Yes, their messaging is unclear, their pick for what's exclusives or not is confusing, they're a mess, and there's still no logical reason for anyone to buy an XBOX over a PS5.

BUT....

They just turned over their whole leadership. They know they f'd up their last, like, 10 years. We know they know that, not just because Sharma is saying things, but because they put her in charge in the first place.

I dunno if any of you have been in a corporate environment with this kind of change over but I have and lemme tell you, it's bedlam. It's chaos. XBOX and Sharma absolutely do not know what they're doing yet. And that's ok!

Far be it from me to sympathize with these execs but to be honest, I don't think anyone knows what the "right" thing to do is. There's too much uncertainty.
- The economy is a paper fantasy of hope and bullshit. The backbone of the global economy- the dollar and secure trade backed by the US hegemony, is in the hands of a crazy baby. Anyone who says they know how to deal with this is full of shit.
- AI AI AI AI. The above allows companies to prayerfully cling to this mantra in lieu of anything else. And it's tricky because its productivity gains- in certain situations- are cataclysmic.
- Gaes take longer to make and are more expensive and as much as you want to counter that with indy this and authorship that, AAA gaming is and must be the economic backbone of the industry, the same way blockbusters must for Hollywood, regardless of short-lived trends here and there. If you really want to swear off AAA gaming then don't criticize Microsoft because by that metric, the only thing they can do to make you happy is to close their gaming efforts completely.
- The hardware costs are real. Yes, MS has a billion trillion dollars but no one can practically make and sell consumer hardware right now. It's just true. XBOX is dealing with the fact that they have to admit that they're "everything is an XBOX" cloud everything strategy was a bust at the same time as being unable to retreat to selling devices and discs like ins the old days. Their current confusing silly talking and marketing points are a result of this contradiction- they wanna trade on the good old days of green Xboxes and Halo while also not being to sell any of that because of market conditions. But what's the alternative- stubbornly lean into the cloud everything nonsense; give up consoles; kill XBOX entirely and just be a third party publisher (which was my prediction before Sharma took over)? Y'all would be reacting much more harshly to any of that than what is going on now.

tl'dr; XBOX is making shit up as they go. That's not inherently a bad thing. If they were a pro sports team, we'd call this a "rebuilding" period. Those often end up in humiliating disaster but sometimes end in glory. (Go Knicks!)

The only thing Sharma said recently that means a damn to me is that she claims XBOX can and should be the gaming leader in 4 years. She is right- they freaking own everything, that is a claim that is not arrogant it's just reality. The big mystery for us is- if they're successful, will it actually benefit the gamer/consumer? And in 4 years who knows what anything will look like.
 
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claims XBOX can and should be the gaming leader in 4 years. She is right- they freaking own everything, that is a claim that is not arrogant it's just reality. The big mystery for us is- if they're successful, will it actually benefit the gamer/consumer?
Making a lot of assumptions on that big if.

 
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