About Zero Punctuation...

[ProfessorLayton]

I watch it for fun. While he does point out a lot of the games flaws that I agree with, he is ranting a lot of the time and complaining about the smallest things. He's trying to be funny, not a completely serious review.

I'm glad he tears the games apart, but I hardly buy games from his recommendations...

Also, that's why I never read the comments pages...

 

[Baconmonster723]

See there is where you are wrong. ZP reviews can be a fantastic determining factor for you if you interpret them correctly. While they are virtually all negative (barring The Orange Box) but it isn't about that. It's about taking what he says and understanding what he's getting at. A good recent example for me is Mass Effect 2. If you watch the video for Mass Effect 2 he liked it. He really did. Sure he's negative but that's what makes him stand out. It means that he approaches reviews differently. So you have to approach his review differently. Like you said if you don't buy games he's negative about you will have a library of 1 maybe 2 games. You have to see what he's being negative about. If he's really being nitpicky, then you have a good game. If he seems to have gusto when ripping out a games entrails, it's a safe bet he didn't like it. Sure much of his work is up to interpretation, but that doesn't mean I can't use his opinions to help shape my own. It's not like he blatantly lies about games, you know what you're getting outta him. I'm not saying he should be the end all be all for deciding games. But if I'm on the fence it wouldn't be outta the question to get Yahtzee's opinion on the topic.

 

[Catalyst6]

The key to criticism is grading by omission. Plus, it really is just funny.

Also: You don't have to read the forums.

Yes, I know, I'm feeding the troll.

 

[SextusMaximus]

ZP comments, and this forum are two COMPLETELY different communities.

 

[Mechsoap]

i dont dislike a game becouse of his meaning, i still buy games he reviewed kinda badly, still if he sayd good things the game must be a sign from the heavens or sometinhg

 

[Matt King]

personally i love zp but i never takes his reviews seriosly unless its with turok or sumthing when he directly calls it shit i usually buy all these games and iq 154 oh ya

 

[afaceforradio]

I'm not insulting the community, just telling off a small sub-section of it

And I would also assume they're simply faking it and being silly... but the ammount of them that exist, they do seem to honestly believe that ZP is gospel...

Small sub-section? You do realise that almost 80% of the people on The Escapist probably came here because of ZP.

Um yeah, but not all the ZP watchers seem to take his reviews seriously, I'm talking to that sub-section that does. If you've never watched ZP, and decided to influence your purchasing decision on his review, then your not that subsection.

ZP has valid points, all his negetive criticism is generally honest proper criticism. However, thats all he focuses on, it's funny, and judging a purchase on a one sided review designed to poke holes into a game is just... silly.

I mean no disrespect here, but to come on a forum and make half a dozen posts, most of which have been slagging off and trolling a community is pretty silly in and by itself. If you don't judge your purchases based on ZP then that's great, enjoy the games you do buy.

But leave anyone who might do that to it. Who are you to judge?

 

[FreaK367]

He has a point, Zero Puncuation is there rip apart the game in hand, whatever game it is. No game is perfect, and that is what Yahtzee uses to make reviews.

All of the reviews are just Yahtzee's personal opinion, if you got 20 professional game critics and got them all to review a game, none will be the same, some will be negative, some will be positive, everyone feels differently about games, gametypes, graphics, controls etc..

I for example think Resident Evil 5 is a terrible excuse for a game, because there is so much about the movement and combat that is just horrible. But many would dissagree.

I do listen to Yahtzee's reviews, because to rip apart a game, it needs to have issues, and he picks up on certain issues in the games, but I would never settle a judgement to buy or not to buy a game just on Zero Puncuation.

I atleast check the games rating on IGN and GameSpot...

 

[Liberaliter]

Yeah it's really annoying, you should read the TvTropes page about Zero Punctuation - and the Escapist community.

 

[spinFX]

HIS VIDS ARE LIKE 8 MINUTES LONG!! HOW CAN YOU JUDGE IT AFTER 4 MINUTES!!!!

Actually, most are about 4-5 minutes.
And it's easy to watch it from the second it launches.
You just have to be quick on the refresh button.

Also, obligatory picture:

Spoiler

You're not the first with one of these threads.

You are right about the video length, but even so, the first few posts withing 5 minutes are 1 always sentence drivel because they need to churn out their pitiful reply to be "first", though they'd never say it or else Hulk banhammer smash. Don't know why anyone would take the time to allegedly smash their refresh button, watch 4 minutes of the video (less if you count the time it takes to post), and then reply with "Great review as always!".

I use many exclamation points when frustrated or angry. I throw myself to the mercy of the interweb police and courts.

 

[OmegaXzors]

The lack of intelligence from the posts people are replying to your thread shows the general knowledge of the average poster (i.e., very low).

Zero Punctuation is a trend on this site. Also, for some reason, Valve and boring games (I'll explain) are dubbed awesome. So, Portal and Team Fortress 2 siding along side Mass Effect, Dragon Age, Oblivion, and Fallout 3 (and now apparently, Red Dead Redemption) are now quote, "the best games ever."

That being said, hardly anyone on here is original and I'm an asshole for telling the truth. I'm okay with that.

Though, Zero Punctuation is known from pointing out some critical flaws that other critics will avoid entirely. He tends to throw his own opinion into the matter like it's a law such as JRPGs or Turn-Based-Strategy games being categorized as "bad" from the start.

This thread isn't going to get anywhere though because all anyone is going to do (from what I've seen) is call you stupid. Bravo guys, you all get a broken cookie.

I for example think Resident Evil 5 is a terrible excuse for a game, because there is so much about the movement and combat that is just horrible. But many would dissagree.

Did you play Resident Evil 4 in the slightest? That's basically what it was doing. I loved Resident Evil 5 and so did the world as it soared to the best selling Resident Evil game.

 

[NoblePhilistineFox]

*ahem* TROLLS INCOMING

sorry, but how often does a situation like this come up.
*cough*
READY THE CATAPULTS AND RELEASE THE KRAKEN!!!!!

OT:
he does point out some of the major flaws in some games that most people are too oblivious to see, but other than that I agree with you.
what I hate are the people who flame him for not liking a game,
hes a critic, hes SUPPOSED to critic things.

also, I know I cant spell, just roll with it

 

[DriftRS]

I'm not insulting the community, just telling off a small sub-section of it

And I would also assume they're simply faking it and being silly... but the ammount of them that exist, they do seem to honestly believe that ZP is gospel...

Small sub-section? You do realise that almost 80% of the people on The Escapist probably came here because of ZP.

Um yeah, but not all the ZP watchers seem to take his reviews seriously, I'm talking to that sub-section that does. If you've never watched ZP, and decided to influence your purchasing decision on his review, then your not that subsection.

ZP has valid points, all his negetive criticism is generally honest proper criticism. However, thats all he focuses on, it's funny, and judging a purchase on a one sided review designed to poke holes into a game is just... silly.

I mean no disrespect here, but to come on a forum and make half a dozen posts, most of which have been slagging off and trolling a community is pretty silly in and by itself. If you don't judge your purchases based on ZP then that's great, enjoy the games you do buy.

But leave anyone who might do that to it. Who are you to judge?

I'm sorry if you think I'm insulting the community. I'm not meaning to, I'm simply making a point in reference to a certain few, maybe I didn't make that clear. I've been watching ZP since it began, and always found these comments annoying. It's fine for people to develop thier opinions based on thier own methods, but not understanding what is satire and what isn't, and believing a game is bad when a reviewer, who's job is to review games badly, rates a game badly... It just goes beyond reasonable understanding <_<

 

[Marter]

I feel that as of late, Yahtzee has actually been making more valid points, so sometimes taking the review seriously is a good idea.

 

[Krion_Vark]

Like people have said Yahtzee is a CRITIC not a REVIEWER. He takes any and all games finds the worst in them and throws them out into the light. I mean I have watched his "reviews" on games that I have personally loved and he takes all the pitfalls of the game but it doesn't make me not like the game any less. I actually like listening to him because I want to know the downsides to the games I am playing even if I don't end up actually buying the game.

 

[Megacherv]

Being generally low on money, I have to make sure that a game I buy is going to be good, otherwise it's gonna be Mr. Angryface time. If someone says that a game is brilliant (like Arkham Asylum or The orange Box in Yahtzee's case), I'll consider it. If he says that a game is bad, I'll avoid it and save what little money I may have.

I for example think Resident Evil 5 is a terrible excuse for a game, because there is so much about the movement and combat that is just horrible. But many would dissagree.

Did you play Resident Evil 4 in the slightest? That's basically what it was doing. I loved Resident Evil 5 and so did the world as it soared to the best selling Resident Evil game.

Not everyone, my friend said he didn't like it that much. Then again, he does say that Half-Life 2 sucks balls and that Halo 3 deserved a 10/10 (nothing ever deserves a 10/10, Portal is on a 9.9 for god's sake)

 

[Accountfailed]

Time 'till retaliation, 10, 9, 8...

Beat me to the punch eh?

Anyway, I couldn't agree more with this post tbh, I'm so very very sick of these two bit fanboi morons that don't even have the stones to play a game and formulate their own opinion. A while ago I had a bit of a piracy rant in a vote post about "what makes a true gamer" or something, well I think I figured it out.

What makes you a true gamer is the wish to play a game purely on your interest alone, without listening to the hearsay of others.

For example, I recently played Call of Juarez: Bound in Blood. a game I thoroughly did NOT enjoy, samey samey gameplay, repetetetetetetetetetetetive levels and a story so weak that every indication of supposed serious drama felt like a kids reproduction of Shakespeare's 'Hamlet'. and to top it off, an ending so horribly unsatisfying I felt like I was playing FEAR 2 again, but with cowboys.

Long story short, it was shit. and that's my opinion, and amazing and godlike as my opinion is if you think differently then that's just dandy, but don't turn to me and call yourself a gamer after tongue-bathing Yahtzee's feet and gladly thanking him for deciding for you, you PUSSY.

and yes, we know who you are, and we as a community are ashamed of you.

 

[TheNamlessGuy]

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[DriftRS]

I feel that as of late, Yahtzee has actually been making more valid points, so sometimes taking the review seriously is a good idea.

I don't deny his points are valid, just that he only focusses on the negetives, and makes big deals outa small issues, and does have major biases against certain genres. Most of his reviews are his honest to god opinion, but just one side of it.

Oh and just to hijack my own thread cause I'm gonna go to sleep soon Does anyone else think Half-Life 2 was over rated? It was an awesome game with great production values, but a number of publications, I quote, called the game "The greatest game ever made". What it did it did brilliantly, but what it did had been done many times before. Meanwhile a game like Farcry which was technologically more advanced and introduced the new concept of a more open world shooter got hardly as much hype.

 

[afaceforradio]

I'm not insulting the community, just telling off a small sub-section of it

And I would also assume they're simply faking it and being silly... but the ammount of them that exist, they do seem to honestly believe that ZP is gospel...

Small sub-section? You do realise that almost 80% of the people on The Escapist probably came here because of ZP.

Um yeah, but not all the ZP watchers seem to take his reviews seriously, I'm talking to that sub-section that does. If you've never watched ZP, and decided to influence your purchasing decision on his review, then your not that subsection.

ZP has valid points, all his negetive criticism is generally honest proper criticism. However, thats all he focuses on, it's funny, and judging a purchase on a one sided review designed to poke holes into a game is just... silly.

I mean no disrespect here, but to come on a forum and make half a dozen posts, most of which have been slagging off and trolling a community is pretty silly in and by itself. If you don't judge your purchases based on ZP then that's great, enjoy the games you do buy.

But leave anyone who might do that to it. Who are you to judge?

I'm sorry if you think I'm insulting the community. I'm not meaning to, I'm simply making a point in reference to a certain few, maybe I didn't make that clear. I've been watching ZP since it began, and always found these comments annoying. It's fine for people to develop thier opinions based on thier own methods, but not understanding what is satire and what isn't, and believing a game is bad when a reviewer, who's job is to review games badly, rates a game badly... It just goes beyond reasonable understanding <_<

Don't read the comments and just enjoy the videos then ;o)