ACTA is going to kill the Internet.

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Akai Shizuku

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Haxordude said:
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Internet Kraken said:
While I would like pirates to receive their rightful punishments, this is not the way to do so. But I seriously doubt this will actually be implemented.
Just remember, you don't even have to have pirated anything. Just accused. Thrice.
Doesn't that go against "Innocent until proven guilty"?
Indeed it does.

Keep in mind, not every country has this...
Indeed, but my country has this. So shouldn't I as a citizen of that country be protected by its federal laws?
Not according to a clause that I read somewhere indicating that treaties override constitutional rights.
 

Robert632

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if this is implemented without severe changes to it, then classic zombies make sense.
 

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robert632 said:
if this is implemented without severe changes to it, then classic zombies make sense.
<url=http://www.cracked.com/article_15643_5-scientific-reasons-zombie-apocalypse-could-actually-happen.html>They do.
 

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If they prosecuted people for downloading or uploading things with no clear copyright holder or has been off the market for years or unavailable in one's country of residence, that would be one thing, but if it's a simple case of people wanting free 'rentals' or wanting to posess things theat they don't want to put aside some snack money for, I'd leave it between those folks and the law makers.
Outlawing multi-region DVDs would be bad but not nearly as bad as other things still allowed to be outlawed in America.

I can't get GrindHouse on DVD (without importing it from the East)? Too bad. Not as bad as people going to prison for what they do in their own bedrooms or women being labled sex offenders for 'immodesty' or what have you. It might be up there for people who are hardcore fans(though not hardcore enough to put money in an artist's pockets or those of the publishers).

If this thing hasn't already completely fallen through thanks to its own general lack of importance during a global economic downturn, it isn't really worth taking a stand on beyond maybe one of those pointless internet petitions.(Did Left4Dead 2 come out? Yes. Is Wuzzles on DVD yet? No. Did they free Tookie? Death frees the soul, so to speak. That's how effective those things are.)

Pirating kills small businesses, beggars new artists...yadda yadda yadda. I don't need to go over all of that. It ought to be obvious. Even the big companies deserve the money for providing what people want.

If the sharers own the copyrights, there is no problem to begin with, so this isn't going to 'kill the internet'.
 

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CloggedDonkey said:
their trying to police the internet? you know what I say: good fucking luck. there are too many people using it to control all of the internet. and besides, that means that they will need access to all the web pages in the world.
No matter how many people there are, 1 pull of the plug and suddenly everything goes down. Even the master sites like 4Chan or Facebook could easily be crashed by a government funded hacker group.
 

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EspirituExterminatus said:
Never going to happen. They have been threatening this type of shit for years. Would be like trying to introduce a law where the cops can just raid your house for any illegal contraband without any reason. Then what is next? Full body cavity searches? Spread em wide boy.
The people would not stand for that shit, that or everyone would suddenly move to the places it said were not involved, China, Russia and Brazil.
However if by some freak occurrence did make it though I can so see us lining up for our daily Prozium shot within the decade.
Anyway I would love to see how this shit goes in places like Norway where high speed internet is a basic human right. So you can take your 3 strike rule and shove it so deep even Goatse could not find it.


That was purely uncalled for. Even moreso than this bill.
 

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Akai Shizuku said:
Haxordude said:
Akai Shizuku said:
Haxordude said:
Akai Shizuku said:
Internet Kraken said:
While I would like pirates to receive their rightful punishments, this is not the way to do so. But I seriously doubt this will actually be implemented.
Just remember, you don't even have to have pirated anything. Just accused. Thrice.
Doesn't that go against "Innocent until proven guilty"?
Indeed it does.

Keep in mind, not every country has this...
Indeed, but my country has this. So shouldn't I as a citizen of that country be protected by its federal laws?
Not according to a clause that I read somewhere indicating that treaties override constitutional rights.
Huh.

I guess it's time to start a revolt then. *looks for volunteers*
 

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What I found the most frightening was that this was supposed to have come into effect at some point last year. And I'm only just hearing about it now.
 

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Take that, Internet.

Translation: I remain skeptical such a bill would pass and, even if it did, if it would have much impact at all given the difficulty to enforce.
 

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rage doesnt even cover the emotion i am feeling now. 4chan has not come up with an image macro for this emotion. due to lack of image supplement, i have taken the liberty of creating my own.



thank you.
 

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Bored Tomatoe said:
Oh come on. Really? Ugh, This is making me want to hibernate until people in power become less stupid.
You will be away for a very long time my friend, if you are waiting for the leaders to get a clue.
 

Akai Shizuku

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Fragamoo said:
What I found the most frightening was that this was supposed to have come into effect at some point last year. And I'm only just hearing about it now.
You know how slow the government is.
 

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Ph33nix said:
oh you won;t be able to illigallly download movies anymore to fricken bad. just do it the legal way for gods sake.
Cause you know, Hollywood isn't rich enough. Doesn't Tom Cruise make like a couple million per day of filming, and the studios still turn a profit. And you honnestly have never pirated anything? Not even music?

Let the record show, by the way, that I have never pirated movies.
 

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Haxordude said:
Akai Shizuku said:
Haxordude said:
Akai Shizuku said:
Haxordude said:
Akai Shizuku said:
Internet Kraken said:
While I would like pirates to receive their rightful punishments, this is not the way to do so. But I seriously doubt this will actually be implemented.
Just remember, you don't even have to have pirated anything. Just accused. Thrice.
Doesn't that go against "Innocent until proven guilty"?
Indeed it does.

Keep in mind, not every country has this...
Indeed, but my country has this. So shouldn't I as a citizen of that country be protected by its federal laws?
Not according to a clause that I read somewhere indicating that treaties override constitutional rights.
Huh.

I guess it's time to start a revolt then. *looks for volunteers*
I'm in! I've got a... kitchen knife.

Damn, I wouldn't be ready for a zombie attack, much less an attack on anyone with things that fire other things.

And thank you for your greetings.
 

Robert632

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Akai Shizuku said:
robert632 said:
if this is implemented without severe changes to it, then classic zombies make sense.
<url=http://www.cracked.com/article_15643_5-scientific-reasons-zombie-apocalypse-could-actually-happen.html>They do.
*sigh* when i said classic zombie, i meant living dead that come back through the powers of magic, not neurotoxins or any of that other stuff.
 

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If it means piracy, it death to piracy, not the net. The net has a whole lot more than just that.

Thing is enforcing it, proving it, ect ect.

As for music, F music downloads. The bands don't see anything from record sales they see it from concerts, t-shirts ect. They might be lucky to get their own damn cd from their record label at cost to sell at the concert. It's the whole, can't video tape shows on VHS or record tapes of music from radio... can't enforce it. I live in Houston, it floods I make a backup of my games, FU I made a back up...where is my original X-com and you find my back up? Games 15 years old! it's lost that's why I have the backup!
 

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Glefistus said:
As someone who values privacy and liberty over all else, I will go postal if any of my representatives in Canada DARE to even THINK about supporting anything like this. FUCK THE RIAA, MPAA, CRIA, etc.

EDIT: I feel like rioting but I shouldn't say that in this Orwellian world we live in today.
Don't worry, if this survives in the States, Canada will attempt to pass it within 3 years.