Activision Not Impressed By EA's Name Calling

[stabbymcstabs]

I have no idea why you would even go into a fight like this, its just a last ditch effort from activision to try and get some flak on EA,hoping to make more people buy their game. I got a message for you Activision "It aint gonna work", just pointing this out to the community shows that your one of the people who bitches when you get called names, running up to your mum and cying about it.

Harden up and work on your titles, theres no need to bicker about meaningless disputes like this. Hell if you had taken more time to work then ***** you wouldnt have this sort of problem would you?

 

[TheDutchin]

Im really disappointed in the escapist at the moment, after reading some of the comments on this thread. Heres someone saying "lets stop the useless bickering and start trying to make better games" but all the comments i saw were fanboys saying that CoD sucks, should die, etc. etc.

I mean REALLY. Lets just totally descend into perpetuating the useless school yard bickering on BF3 vs MW3 rather than ascending into "People will have their own opinions". I really thought you guys were better than that.

Dude, have BEEN on the internet?

Obviously I have, except that is the rest of the internet. The Escapist was well... exactly what the name implys, an escape from the blind fanboy-rage that occurs on youtube comment sections and facebook etc.

this was a brilliant opportunity to show that not all gamers are blind fanboys, and here on the escapist, where i thought the chances of that succeeding were greatest, we failed.

 

[Blank Kold]

Also, god damn you guys need to realize that you're being the douchebag hipsters that no one likes.

 

[TheDutchin]

I have no idea why you would even go into a fight like this, its just a last ditch effort from activision to try and get some flak on EA,hoping to make more people buy their game. I got a message for you Activision "It aint gonna work", just pointing this out to the community shows that your one of the people who bitches when you get called names, running up to your mum and cying about it.

Harden up and work on your titles, theres no need to bicker about meaningless disputes like this. Hell if you had taken more time to work then ***** you wouldnt have this sort of problem would you?

erm... did you confuse activison and EA........

it was pretty evident that activisions CEO was the one who said "lets stop the bickering"...

misremembering the article while posting or BF3 fanboy/CoD hater, hopefully it is the former

 

[AngryMongoose]

They accuse them of mudslinging then claim them to be the Dreamworks to their Pixar? Hypocritical bastards!

 

[Frostbite3789]

I think you're putting too much faith in this community with this article. It's quite obvious that both of them are employing the same strategy and Activision are totally not being the more mature ones about that (apart from Kotick, of course, but that's one guy against almost all of DICE).

Goddammit, DICE, I hope your fucking game is crushed by MW3 so bad, just so that you learn to stop being so obnoxious with your marketing.

I take offence to you talking badly about the Battlefield series. Call of Duty may have failed to move a muscle in 4 years, but Battlefield has changed everytime it has a new game in the series, and BF3 has the most inovation of any big seller in about 5 years, and completerly changed the way the game works, the way you play, and added the best destrution system ever in a game.

It's better to stay in one place than to lower the quality of your games. Bad Company 2 does NOT deserve to be a follow up to Battlefield 2.

Feel free to take offence at that.

For one, what does the head of EA have to do with Dice? That Dice is a part of EA? Bravo, everything coming from Blizzard, and any developer underneath Activision shall now be shat on by proxy.

For 2, apparently 2142, Bad Company, BF2: Spec Ops, Armored Fury, That other DLC, and 1943 didn't exist.

If you hate BFBC2, you probably weren't a Battlefield fan to begin with. So, no big loss on you not buying a game you weren't going to buy anyways.

Edit: Also, why'd he feel the need to take a crap all over Dreamworks? That was just kind of mean.

 

[RollForInitiative]

It's got nothing to do with name-calling; somebody just spoke their mind. I appreciate a little honesty and I loathe that the media tends to blow it out of proportion. News, something that is meant to be about truth at its very core, is the greatest offender when it comes to preventing people from actually speaking truthfully for fear of misrepresentation and sensationalism.

 

[C95J]

Wow, double standards much. If this was Activision saying this about EA and Battlefield, you people would be raging so much in the inevitable 20+ threads that would appear.

EDIT:

Im really disappointed in the escapist at the moment, after reading some of the comments on this thread. Heres someone saying "lets stop the useless bickering and start trying to make better games" but all the comments i saw were fanboys saying that CoD sucks, should die, etc. etc.

I mean REALLY. Lets just totally descend into perpetuating the useless school yard bickering on BF3 vs MW3 rather than ascending into "People will have their own opinions". I really thought you guys were better than that.

This is also completely relevant to my thoughts right now.

 

[Gaderael]

Hirshberg was not impressed. "Can you imagine the head of Dreamworks Animation coming out with a new movie and going to the press and saying that he wants Toy Story to 'rot from the core'," he said. "It's kind of hard to imagine, right?"

He does realize that there were many jokes taking subtle and not so subtle digs at Disney in "Shrek" (a Dreamworks movie) right?

 

[Salad Is Murder]

Im really disappointed in the escapist at the moment, after reading some of the comments on this thread. Heres someone saying "lets stop the useless bickering and start trying to make better games" but all the comments i saw were fanboys saying that CoD sucks, should die, etc. etc.

I mean REALLY. Lets just totally descend into perpetuating the useless school yard bickering on BF3 vs MW3 rather than ascending into "People will have their own opinions". I really thought you guys were better than that.

Dude, have BEEN on the internet?

Obviously I have, except that is the rest of the internet. The Escapist was well... exactly what the name implys, an escape from the blind fanboy-rage that occurs on youtube comment sections and facebook etc.

this was a brilliant opportunity to show that not all gamers are blind fanboys, and here on the escapist, where i thought the chances of that succeeding were greatest, we failed.

Okay, look...I appreciate the sentiment, but I think we got a lot of wrong place, wrong time going on here. Going to a thread where the companies themselves are spitting on each other, publicly, I might add, over the ridiculous rivalry between their franchises was probably not the place to get expectations up in this regard.

Honestly, I think what's been going on in this thread has been markedly restrained compared to the poop-storm that could've been.

 

[stabbymcstabs]

I have no idea why you would even go into a fight like this, its just a last ditch effort from activision to try and get some flak on EA,hoping to make more people buy their game. I got a message for you Activision "It aint gonna work", just pointing this out to the community shows that your one of the people who bitches when you get called names, running up to your mum and cying about it.

Harden up and work on your titles, theres no need to bicker about meaningless disputes like this. Hell if you had taken more time to work then ***** you wouldnt have this sort of problem would you?

erm... did you confuse activison and EA........

it was pretty evident that activisions CEO was the one who said "lets stop the bickering"...

misremembering the article while posting or BF3 fanboy/CoD hater, hopefully it is the former

Yea sorry about that some of it is ponted at the wrong company (i have short term memory loss)

But the messgae still stands in a way. For both companies


EA brags about their game being superior.

Activision acts polite and calm trying to be the good guy
(this is completely false, when could activision ever be good, they fired I.W's creators just from greed)

EA responds with the same gesture

im my mind EA has the right to brag (but not too much)

Im not saying im a EA fanboy and a cod hater (I have both series and play and enjoy them equaly) Its just Activision has alot to do if they want to run against them. Instead of recycling a already made game and renaming it as a sequal, take a page from EA and take some time to create a game insted of running your developers into the ground by forcing them to make a game every year and expecting it to be the turn of the century you want it to be.

Because its not going to happen.

 

[Paragon Fury]

I have a picture from the GamesCom, which I feel is very relevant to this discussion...

I agree.

MW3 will sell more, but Battlefield 3 will be the better game.

 

[TheDutchin]

Im really disappointed in the escapist at the moment, after reading some of the comments on this thread. Heres someone saying "lets stop the useless bickering and start trying to make better games" but all the comments i saw were fanboys saying that CoD sucks, should die, etc. etc.

I mean REALLY. Lets just totally descend into perpetuating the useless school yard bickering on BF3 vs MW3 rather than ascending into "People will have their own opinions". I really thought you guys were better than that.

Dude, have BEEN on the internet?

Obviously I have, except that is the rest of the internet. The Escapist was well... exactly what the name implys, an escape from the blind fanboy-rage that occurs on youtube comment sections and facebook etc.

this was a brilliant opportunity to show that not all gamers are blind fanboys, and here on the escapist, where i thought the chances of that succeeding were greatest, we failed.

Okay, look...I appreciate the sentiment, but I think we got a lot of wrong place, wrong time going on here. Going to a thread where the companies themselves are spitting on each other, publicly, I might add, over the ridiculous rivalry between their franchises was probably not the place to get expectations up in this regard.

Honestly, I think what's been going on in this thread has been markedly restrained compared to the poop-storm that could've been.

I suppose I was being rather naive in my hopes that maybe more than 3 (i didnt actually count) people on the first page of comments would actually agree with the view of "Lets stop the mud slinging" but, one can dream, cant they?

and yes, it is a bit more restrained than it probably would be elsewhere, considering it is activison thread that mentions EA and its on the topic of MW3

 

[JourneyThroughHell]

For one, what does the head of EA have to do with Dice? That Dice is a part of EA? Bravo, everything coming from Blizzard, and any developer underneath Activision shall now be shat on by proxy.

Yeah, except, you know, DICE has been pulling the same shit in their twitter feeds and whatnot. And, hell, even in their the vastly inferior SP offerings of their recent games.

For 2, apparently 2142, Bad Company, BF2: Spec Ops, Armored Fury, That other DLC, and 1943 didn't exist.

They did. They either differ less from BF2 than CoD sequels from each other or are not nearly as good.

If you hate BFBC2, you probably weren't a Battlefield fan to begin with. So, no big loss on you not buying a game you weren't going to buy anyways.

Except I was. You know, when it was actually good. And no, disliking the one game in the series does not automatically make me a hater of the series.

Also, I am buying Battlefield 3. It looks really good. I just hate the approach DICE and EA are taking with its marketing. It's not CoD. It doesn't need to compare itself to CoD.

 

[TheDutchin]

I have no idea why you would even go into a fight like this, its just a last ditch effort from activision to try and get some flak on EA,hoping to make more people buy their game. I got a message for you Activision "It aint gonna work", just pointing this out to the community shows that your one of the people who bitches when you get called names, running up to your mum and cying about it.

Harden up and work on your titles, theres no need to bicker about meaningless disputes like this. Hell if you had taken more time to work then ***** you wouldnt have this sort of problem would you?

erm... did you confuse activison and EA........

it was pretty evident that activisions CEO was the one who said "lets stop the bickering"...

misremembering the article while posting or BF3 fanboy/CoD hater, hopefully it is the former

Yea sorry about that some of it is ponted at the wrong company (i have short term memory loss)

But the messgae still stands in a way. For both companies


EA brags about their game being superior.

Activision acts polite and calm trying to be the good guy
(this is completely false, when could activision ever be good, they fired I.W's creators just from greed)

EA responds with the same gesture

im my mind EA has the right to brag (but not too much)

Im not saying im a EA fanboy and a cod hater (I have both series and play and enjoy them equaly) Its just Activision has alot to do if they want to run against them. Instead of recycling a already made game and renaming it as a sequal, take a page from EA and take some time to create a game insted of running your developers into the ground by forcing them to make a game every year and expecting it to be the turn of the century you want it to be.

Because its not going to happen.

(if youve seen my other post on this thread youll get that THIS IS WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT, good discussion rather than more mudslinging and "CoDs bettur" "nuu BF3s bettur" herp-a-freaking derp)

anyways, i havent actually seen anything about either game that wasnt shown at E3, other than the survival mode for MW3 (really excited about that) so i cant really agree / disagree with "EA has the right to brag" but from my very limited perspective id say activison does, simply because of survival mode (i know, nothing really NEW but still) and the fact that he was able to keep his mouth shut and not talk trash. mostly the talking trash bit, like seriously without that id say on an arbitrary scale of 1-10 where the numbers dont matter, its 7 (first number i hit) for BF3, and a 7.5 for MW3 for survival mode.

BUT tbh, if you would have switched the titles around from what i have seen (again, exempting survival) i would have been a little leery, but probably would have bought it. maybe im just gullible.

 

[Salad Is Murder]

/snorp'd

I suppose I was being rather naive in my hopes that maybe more than 3 (i didnt actually count) people on the first page of comments would actually agree with the view of "Lets stop the mud slinging" but, one can dream, cant they?

and yes, it is a bit more restrained than it probably would be elsewhere, considering it is activison thread that mentions EA and its on the topic of MW3

Personally, I don't mind a little mudslinging; sometimes it's good to get dirty.

 

[Frost27]

Haha Kotick talked his shit at E3 and EA played the "wait and see" card. Then the trailers for both came out and Hirshberg went to YouTube to watch the BF3 alpha gameplay clips, then promptly said "oh shit" and started damage control. Love it.

I also completely disagree with him. I think the nastier the shots back and forth, the sooner both developers finally work on a new IP instead of Activision making the same CoD every year and EA making the same pretty much everything every year. The fiercer the competitiveness, the better the results for the customers.

 

[PunkRex]

He's just silly, you cant grow pie.

For constructive purposes, if I was Hirshberg id threaten to cut Riccitiello's teeth out.

 

[BaronUberstein]

Am I the only one who doesn't hate CoD?

I bought Battlefield 2 (it was 20 bucks new, so why not?), and it's the same amount of fun for me as BlackOps so far. At the end of the day I think we have room for two big FPS games.

Though I despise the current Activision plan of selling 5 maps for 20 bucks.