All Men Cheat

[MasochisticAvenger]

I'm glad I was able to provide you with some entertainment. Still though, everything I stated is true.

The above statement is false.

Source: science.

Hagi is awesome

Source: That post.

Oh and JeffBergGold, if you need to believe all men cheat to help you get through your miserable little life, that's alright. Just know, I feel really really sad for you.

 

[hazabaza1]

I'm gonna have to mimic these Nathan Fillion gifs, at least spiritually.
Saying "All men cheat" is as valid as saying "All women cheat." It's obviously false and stupid and anyone who says it is a fucking idiot.

B-but don't you see? Women only cheat because of THE PATRIARCHYtm! Men cheat because they're bastards who deserve genocide.

Uhhh... alright then. Sorry, but I'm not quite sure, are you trying to start some kind of feminism discussion with me? Because these kinds of debates have been way overdone in the last few weeks so I'm trying to avoid them nowadays.

 

[JeffBergGold]

I'm glad I was able to provide you with some entertainment. Still though, everything I stated is true.

The above statement is false.

Source: science.

Hagi is awesome

Source: That post.

Oh and JeffBergGold, if you need to believe all men cheat to help you get through your miserable little life, that's alright. Just know, I feel really really sad for you.

You want to know something? I am 23 as well. I completed university, but discovered I didn't actually want to use my degree. Right now, I am on government money and when I do get a job it will more than likely be something really basic like a call centre or a warehouse job. I still live with my parents, and right now it's looking like moving out won't be an option for a long time.

I never said all, just most

In Psychology I believe they call what you just did "projection".

 

[SciMal]

That was just the most convenient source. There are plenty others that confirm the 60% number.

Google Scholar will work better if you're really interested in confirming my previous statement.

I'm glad I was able to provide you with some entertainment. Still though, everything I stated is true.

From Google Scholar:

For married African Americans, the infidelity rate was 18 percent for women and 39 percent
for men...

Second, the rate of affairs in the present sample (14.2%) is lower than we expected in a
distressed sample of couples, though it is similar to the rate of infidelity in a nationally
representative sample of married couples (Atkins, Baucom, & Jacobson, 2001)

They then estimated that the infidelity rate is approximately 250,000 per million married men.

This suggests a relatively high infidelity rate of 33%, but our process of eliminating couples from various groups could have affected this rate.

Demographic and Health Surveys, which records an infidelity rate of 19% among men ages 25-49 years old over the last 12 months...

Your 60% isn't on the first 10 pages of Google Scholar. I've no idea where you got the 60% unless you just looked up the Wiki entry for 'Infidelity' and chose to use the largest number you could find.

 

[MasochisticAvenger]

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People can use numbers to prove anything. 45% of all people know that.

 

[Elate]

YES, WE ALL CHEAT, ALL OF US, EVERY SINGL-

Oh.. Oh what's that? Oh my this is quite unsettling news indeed. Apparently your friend has contracted a very serious case of the Herp derps and seems to have severe bullshittery.

No of course I don't agree, I've never cheated on anyone, that said I've decided to only be in poly relationships from now on so, screw your social standards.

 

[INF1NIT3 D00M]

Hi.

I'm Daystar Clarion.

You may know me from such social statuses as 'I've been with the same girl since I was 15', and 'Love is playing Borderlands coop with your significant other, then having sex with her'.

And I didn't cheat in any of them

My post would pretty much be the same as this. Both of those things are the exact same for me.
If I were held at gunpoint and forced to differentiate my post or die, I'd change Borderlands to Kirby's Epic Yarn or Rayman: Origins.

One serious relationship, never cheated, been dating since 15, play games together.
Though I've told her that if Ewan McGregor were to solicit me for sex, I'd have to accept. She seemed a little too alright with that.

 

[The White Hunter]

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Wait, what?

Are you really asking this, if we thing all men cheat? Are you for real?

The needs some motherfucking fillion.

My answer is no.

EDIT Wow, just wow. I mean, they spout bullshit and you have to ask if anyone else believe it. Should I make a thread saying "hey, the KKK hate black people. Do you hate them too?"

EDIT2 Unless you mean at GTA. In that case I'd say a resounding yes.

I just saw the title, read the first few lines and reenacted that gif.

Just staggering generalisation there.

I'm a man, I don't cheat, I've been in a commited relationship for years and the closest I've come to cheating is agreeing with a friend that Johnny Depp is indeed a very attractive man.

I'm going to leave this thread now and stop thinking about it and the stupidity it will inevitably lead to...

EDIT. Before I return to my stupidity bunker, isn't this forum by majority male?

I know there are a lot of girls here but I'd hazard at a 70/30 split on it at least.

Blah.

 

[Darkmantle]

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Ugh, I've known a similar reasoning which is just as messed up: `All men cheat, so I can cheat, all men cheat they're just better at it so if you don't think they're cheating you're wrong.`.
Bleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeugh.

The reason I bring it up is because I'm sure people convince themselves of both of these things so they can feel like they are ahead of the game and they wont be fooled like everyone else. As in- all men cheat so I'm not really doing a bad thing by cheating on/with someone.
A way to protect themselves from getting hurt and excuse their shitty behaviour at the same time.

I've never cheated or been cheated on (been accused of cheating but that was bullshit).
I always think, if you are unhappy enough to cheat, you are unhappy enough to leave. So why not just leave?
Seems cowardly (Oh, and don't get me started on the people who go `Oh, yeah, it's terrible of me. I'm so awful. I'm gonna do it some more`- I do not cater to pity parties).

Does make me think, though- who do we consider worse?
The cheater (one in the relationship) or the cheatee (one they cheat with)?
I'd always blame the cheater more, because they made the commitment, but a lot of people just go for the cheatee.

Depends on the situation for me really, if the cheatee was unaware of the cheaters relationship status, I place no blame on them, they were just as lied to. But if the cheatee knew the cheater was dating someone, I put blame on both of them.

 

[JeffBergGold]

That was just the most convenient source. There are plenty others that confirm the 60% number.

Google Scholar will work better if you're really interested in confirming my previous statement.

I'm glad I was able to provide you with some entertainment. Still though, everything I stated is true.

From Google Scholar:

For married African Americans, the infidelity rate was 18 percent for women and 39 percent
for men...

Second, the rate of affairs in the present sample (14.2%) is lower than we expected in a
distressed sample of couples, though it is similar to the rate of infidelity in a nationally
representative sample of married couples (Atkins, Baucom, & Jacobson, 2001)

They then estimated that the infidelity rate is approximately 250,000 per million married men.

This suggests a relatively high infidelity rate of 33%, but our process of eliminating couples from various groups could have affected this rate.

Demographic and Health Surveys, which records an infidelity rate of 19% among men ages 25-49 years old over the last 12 months...

Your 60% isn't on the first 10 pages of Google Scholar. I've no idea where you got the 60% unless you just looked up the Wiki entry for 'Infidelity' and chose to use the largest number you could find.

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1741-3737.2000.00048.x/full


http://www.msubillings.edu/CommFaculty/Coffman/410%20online/readings/sexual%20infidelity.pdf

e. Additionally, Hansen (1987) found that 71% of men and 57% of
women were unfaithful to a dating partner. Past studies focused on different types of infidelity (sexual,
emotional, or both sexual and emotional) and attempted to understand why individuals become
extradyadically involved

There are literally thousands more. That was on page 2...

 

[loc978]

I'm of the opinion that "romantic relationships" are usually just the product of societal expectations... there's no cheating if you're not attached. I'm a guy and I've never cheated... but I've only been officially attached once, and that didn't last long (funny thing, she cheated on me and I didn't give a damn... but I let her end it to satisfy her own guilt trip. Also, because our worldviews were pretty much diametrically opposed). I truly prefer casual sex.
Still, both people in the OP's little case study were being incredibly dishonest. That's really not healthy. If they're gonna fuck around, they might as well admit the "romances" they've got going aren't enough to hold their libidos at bay.

 

[Frankster]

Well your friend's opinion doesn't apply to me at all.

Not only have i never cheated, but i've turned down propositions and opportunities to be unfaithful with flying colors.

Never been cheated on either, at least not physically.

 

[Jayben Tibbles]

Your friend has a taste for assholes, assholes cheat. That is in no way indicative of the entire gender.

 

[MasochisticAvenger]

You want to know something? I am 23 as well. I completed university, but discovered I didn't actually want to use my degree. Right now, I am on government money and when I do get a job it will more than likely be something really basic like a call centre or a warehouse job. I still live with my parents, and right now it's looking like moving out won't be an option for a long time.

I never said all, just most

In Psychology I believe they call what you just did "projection".

And I believe they call what you just did "taking something out of context". This will be the last thing I say to you, because quite honestly, you are so far beneath me it's not worth my time talking to you. Consider this, me feeling generous.

First of all, that was from a completely different topic as you already knew.

Second of all, what I said there was in response to someone who believed they had failed at life, despite having enough money to be able to get by living with his girlfriend. Of course, if you had bothered to read the rest of the thread you would know that, but ignoring things and twisting words is the only way you can handle an argument, isn't it?

So that's it from me. I'm logging off now and I don't think I'll be coming back to the forums. you, JeffBergGold, disgust me and I want to get as far away from you as possible. Hopefully one day you get your ass kicked in, because let me tell you, you deserve it.

 

[SciMal]

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1741-3737.2000.00048.x/full

Can't read this. Pay wall.

http://www.msubillings.edu/CommFaculty/Coffman/410%20online/readings/sexual%20infidelity.pdf

e. Additionally, Hansen (1987) found that 71% of men and 57% of
women were unfaithful to a dating partner. Past studies focused on different types of infidelity (sexual,
emotional, or both sexual and emotional) and attempted to understand why individuals become
extradyadically involved

There are literally thousands more. That was on page 2...

Uhh... yeah.

The Hansen study in 1987 defined infidelity differently than most other studies. In that "petting" and "necking" counted as cheating along with sex, whereas most other studies just involved sex.

Hansen was, purposefully, casting a larger net. If you prefer to define cheaters that way, then you are correct. If you prefer otherwise, then the Hansen study isn't the study you want to cite.

 

[Hagi]

Sexism.

It sounds just as stupid coming from a girl's talk hole as it does a guy's.

Is it just me, or does "talk hole" sound incredibly arousing to anyone else?

OT: Yes, all men cheat. It's biological.

Also, pigs can fly and water isn't wet.

Well baby... I happen to have one moist succulent creamy talk hole right here...

Just saiyan.

Call me.

 

[AlexWinter]

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How are you drawing the conclusion 12 year old = most desirable mate?

Just because a woman reaches maturity doesn't mean men are going to start pursuing her exactly as she reaches that point.

-snip-

I'm not arguing for "pure basic instincts" I'm just saying that cheating is normal and relatively harmless.

Also not everyone has the propensity or ability to kill. If you're frequenting this forum I'm pretty sure no matter how much you dislike someone you'd be incapable of killing them. Lets be real here.

-snip-

In America what he described would be considered pedophilia. Pedophilia in the United States and throughout most of the western world is engaging in sexual activities with someone who is under the legal age of consent. Since this is a forum frequented by people who are from western societies I used the framework in my response.

Pedophilia would still be correct, thanks for the suggestion though.

1. He's saying that if humans don't get the urge to fuck 12 year old children even though they're sexually mature then clearly cheating is not an excuse to spread your man-seed, unless you're nailing 12 year olds. Are you?

2. Cheating is not harmless, also I wouldn't say normal and common are the same thing and I use common cautiously.

3. Actually pretty much everybody can kill. Who is it exactly that can't kill? Children? Women? I could prove examples of pretty much any answer you give. The physical act of murder can be surprisingly easy. If you're talking about it being mentally difficult then I also disagree.

4. Nope. Sex with someone under the age of consent is called rape. Not paedophilia.

So yeah, sorry friend, you're just not right this time.

 

[JeffBergGold]

You want to know something? I am 23 as well. I completed university, but discovered I didn't actually want to use my degree. Right now, I am on government money and when I do get a job it will more than likely be something really basic like a call centre or a warehouse job. I still live with my parents, and right now it's looking like moving out won't be an option for a long time.

I never said all, just most

In Psychology I believe they call what you just did "projection".

And I believe they call what you just did "taking something out of context". This will be the last thing I say to you, because quite honestly, you are so far beneath me it's not worth my time talking to you. Consider this, me feeling generous.

First of all, that was from a completely different topic as you already knew.

Second of all, what I said there was in response to someone who believed they had failed at life, despite having enough money to be able to get by living with his girlfriend. Of course, if you had bothered to read the rest of the thread you would know that, but ignoring things and twisting words is the only way you can handle an argument, isn't it?

So that's it from me. I'm logging off now and I don't think I'll be coming back to the forums. you, JeffBergGold, disgust me and I want to get as far away from you as possible. Hopefully one day you get your ass kicked in, because let me tell you, you deserve it.

Later bro, Good luck getting out of your parents basement!

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1741-3737.2000.00048.x/full

Can't read this. Pay wall.

http://www.msubillings.edu/CommFaculty/Coffman/410%20online/readings/sexual%20infidelity.pdf

e. Additionally, Hansen (1987) found that 71% of men and 57% of
women were unfaithful to a dating partner. Past studies focused on different types of infidelity (sexual,
emotional, or both sexual and emotional) and attempted to understand why individuals become
extradyadically involved

There are literally thousands more. That was on page 2...

Uhh... yeah.

The Hansen study in 1987 defined infidelity differently than most other studies. In that "petting" and "necking" counted as cheating along with sex, whereas most other studies just involved sex.

Hansen was, purposefully, casting a larger net. If you prefer to define cheaters that way, then you are correct. If you prefer otherwise, then the Hansen study isn't the study you want to cite.

I think groping someone else(petting) and making out with them(necking) counts as cheating.

When I refer to cheating i'm not referring to sex specifically. If you have a girlfriend and decide to go out and make out with another woman I'm sure she'd classify it as cheating.

 

[Hagi]

Sexism.

It sounds just as stupid coming from a girl's talk hole as it does a guy's.

Is it just me, or does "talk hole" sound incredibly arousing to anyone else?

OT: Yes, all men cheat. It's biological.

Also, pigs can fly and water isn't wet.

Well baby... I happen to have one moist succulent creamy talk hole right here...

Just saiyan.

Call me.

Okay, you made it gross again lol.

The satisfaction of a job well done...

 

[JeffBergGold]

1. He's saying that if humans don't get the urge to fuck 12 year old children even though they're sexually mature then clearly cheating is not an excuse to spread your man-seed, unless you're nailing 12 year olds.

What?

2. Cheating is not harmless, also I wouldn't say normal and common are the same thing and I use common cautiously.

All cheating causes is hurt feelings in the immature, pretty much harmless.

3. Actually pretty much everybody can kill. Who is it exactly that can't kill? Children? Women? I could prove examples of pretty much any answer you give. The physical act of murder can be surprisingly easy. If you're talking about it being mentally difficult then I also disagree.

No, a lot of people are weak and would more than likely fair poorly in a physical altercation. If you're frequenting this forum it's likely that physically besting people is not really your thing.

4. Nope. Sex with someone under the age of consent is called rape. Not paedophilia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia

So yeah, sorry friend, you're just not right this time.

If you say so.