Alpha Protocol Sex Scenes: "Tasteful" Yet "Satisfying"

[Unreliable]

What like Terminator tasteful yet satisfying*, or Stardust tasteful yet satisfying?**

* - Where we get the full effect but it is crucial to the plot and sincere
** - Where it is an implied thing and we dont get to watch, but okay because the whole true love thing was done really well.

Or will it be tasteful yet unsatisfying, like Leaving Las Vegas

Spoiler

Where Elizabeth Shue realizes that she's been fucking Nicholas Cage's corpse, suffering from rigormortis

Or tasteless but sasitfying like Fight Club, which was stylish and plot crucial, but also pretty tasteless.
Or tasteless and unsatisfying like Crank which was basically just an excuse to sneak some Amy Smart porn into a dumb action movie.

Or just plain haunting like Jennifer Connoly's ass to ass scene in Requium for a Dream .

 

[Booze Zombie]

God, must everything contain a sex scene?

Oh, whatever.

Sex is a part of life, games imitate life at the most basic levels, there's nothing more basic than sex.

Anyway, I'm not complaining... I just hope I don't have to sit through five minutes of soft-core faux orgasms.

 

[Andy Chalk]

Or tasteless and unsatisfying like Crank which was basically just an excuse to sneak some Amy Smart porn into a dumb action movie

That's the best one of the list.

 

[Booze Zombie]

No, killing is the most natural thing ever.
Everything in nature kills, even if it doesn't do it directly.

That's a given, though. Everyone knows about killing.
Sex comes just after that.

 

[Brotherofwill]

Is it just me or does Alpha Protocol seem like Obsidian's attempt to create their own Mass Effect...

Not that I would consider that a bad thing, in fact more power to them.

The similarities are pretty intense though, in my opinion.

Well, Mass Effect ripped quite a few bits from Kotor 2 too, so this is hardly unjustified.

I don't think that the demographic for such a game would find 'tasteful'(whatever that means, something like PG13 scenes I guess) sex-scenes satisfying.

 

[SykoSilver]

Tasteful doesn't mean censorship, it means with artistic or literary purpose.

The sex scene may work, though I get the impression that they are not managing the eroticism with purpose, which means it's probably very unsatisfying. In good eroticism, the sex scene is climatic. Everything up to it is a tease (the leading of the gaze, maintaining the mystery to invoke the imagination, fostering a curious lust), but the sex should be a revelation. You build up the sexual tension and then unleash it--and at that point, the characters (and the player) should really want it.

Considering that the game seems very "action-flick", their main purpose for the sex is probably plain titillation. In that case, they should just go for it... but they won't because they're not artists and they don't care about tasteful sex or artistic purpose. At least, the prudes in charge (like this guy) don't. I'm sure--or I hope--the writers and visual artists are more open-minded.

These guys only care about getting what sales they can without pissing off the media watchdogs or going into AO territory (essentially banned from the market). The games that get out there, with serious production values, are not made with artistic aspirations, but for commercial profit. Games do not have art houses or studios dedicated to creating an artistic experience; they are trapped inside a profit-driven industry. They refuse to take risks and exploit the full artistic potential of the work, which is why their works are not tasteful, artistic masterpieces and they are not accepted as an art form by the mainstream.

Games are seen as for kids because few are pushing the boundaries and trying to make games truly for mature-minded adults. Will it happen eventually? Yes. More "mature" games will feature sexual content until it because the norm, and then they will have to make exceptional sex scenes to stand apart from the rest (but it could happen faster if the people in charge were capable of forming coherent sentences about sex in the way, y'know, a mature person would).

The game industry needs to stop making claims to being an artistic venue if it is not going to follow artistic aspirations when they conflict with producing profit. Art is not concerned with profit. Industry professionals need to stop making claims of games as art if they're not working fully with artistic aspirations instead of profit-mongering. Art is, and should be, risky.

 

[Amnestic]

Is it just me or does Alpha Protocol seem like Obsidian's attempt to create their own Mass Effect...

Not that I would consider that a bad thing, in fact more power to them.

The similarities are pretty intense though, in my opinion.

Well, Mass Effect ripped quite a few bits from Kotor 2 too, so this is hardly unjustified.

I don't think that the demographic for such a game would find 'tasteful'(whatever that means, something like PG13 scenes I guess) sex-scenes satisfying.

Anything with tits?

 

[The Great JT]

"Satisfying?" What, does a force-feedback codpiece come with the game?

 

[scotth266]

This was already done, in Mass Effect.

Why doesn't he just say: "Our game has sex scenes in it, but they're not pornographic."? That would seem to describe it well enough.

 

[13lackfriday]

Can't wait to figure out what the hell they're talking about.
Kind of a hard line to straddle (teehee), not upsetting the hardliners but still not disappointing the horny consumers who got their hopes up.
They're probably just going to slip it in for the sake of it, though the title of trailblazers who push the envelope of what's allowed in games has already been taken.

This'll reflect badly on me, but did anyone else find the term "tastful, yet satisfying" funny?

Sounds like some kind of diet bar.

Is it just me or does Alpha Protocol seem like Obsidian's attempt to create their own Mass Effect...

Not that I would consider that a bad thing, in fact more power to them.

The similarities are pretty intense though, in my opinion.

Well, Mass Effect ripped quite a few bits from Kotor 2 too, so this is hardly unjustified.

I don't think that the demographic for such a game would find 'tasteful'(whatever that means, something like PG13 scenes I guess) sex-scenes satisfying.

Anything with tits?

Sideboob at most.

Although at least it won't be blue.

Edit:

"Satisfying?" What, does a force-feedback codpiece come with the game?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

For the "full experience," you'll have to pay extra for the accessory.

 

[Doc Theta Sigma]

I've been browsing the site and the game looks genuinely interesting, sex or no sex. Looks quite similar to BioWare's RPG style. You know, characters not standing ramrod stiff when they talk to you. They look like they actually have emotion.

 

[The Rogue Wolf]

I hate my brain. The phrase "tasteful, yet satisfying" brought to mind "slimy yet satisfying" from The Lion King and THAT IS NOT THE SORT OF PHRASE I WANT TO MENTALLY ATTACH TO A SEX SCENE.

More on-topic (and less nauseating, but only slightly): Are sex scenes becoming gaming advertising's new bragging point, like how "millions of polygons" used to be? "Look, we've got virtual whoopie too, but we're even more tasteful and stuff about it!" It's like mooning a television camera with the words "I AM A RESPONSIBLE ADULT" painted on your butt.

 

[theultimateend]

Sex is a part of life, games imitate life at the most basic levels, there's nothing more basic than sex.

Anyway, I'm not complaining... I just hope I don't have to sit through five minutes of soft-core faux orgasms.

No, killing is the most natural thing ever.
Everything in nature kills, even if it doesn't do it directly.

You can't kill if you aren't born.

So you fail. Try again emo boy .

More things in nature breed than kill. Take hundreds of thousands of species of plants for example. Of them VERY few kill but ALL of them breed.

If you want to say indirectly things do things. Then all things do all things to all things. Which is a universal statement and universal statements are absolutely meaningless. You get a big fat F in philosophy and logic courses for using them.

 

[SniperWolf427]

Is it just me or does Alpha Protocol seem like Obsidian's attempt to create their own Mass Effect...

Not that I would consider that a bad thing, in fact more power to them.

The similarities are pretty intense though, in my opinion.

Obsidian has always been making games that are almost....tributes to Bioware games. They did KOTOR 2 and Neverwinter Nights 2; both of which were sequels to Bioware games.

Obsidian are excellent developers, they just aren't too hot with ideas. They're also making Fallout: New Vegas as their tribute to Bethesda.

 

[SilentHunter7]

It seems to me like game developers are still completely missing the point, putting sex in for (excuse the pun) a tit wank from the Moral Guardians. They're not putting it in to make an artistic statement or because sex has any real place in their game, it's just "hey look, boobies!"

...which differs from your average hollywood movie...how?

 

[Canadamus Prime]

Why do these developers feel the need to announce that there's a sex scene in their games when it is actually a relatively insignificant part if the game. (I'm looking at you Mass Effect)
...and before anyone jumps down my throat, note I said "relatively", as in compared to the rest of the story and how brief it was, it didn't really hold enough significance to be touted in a press release.

 

[Byers]

Is it just me or does Alpha Protocol seem like Obsidian's attempt to create their own Mass Effect...

Not that I would consider that a bad thing, in fact more power to them.

The similarities are pretty intense though, in my opinion.

Obsidian has always been making games that are almost....tributes to Bioware games. They did KOTOR 2 and Neverwinter Nights 2; both of which were sequels to Bioware games.

Obsidian are excellent developers, they just aren't too hot with ideas. They're also making Fallout: New Vegas as their tribute to Bethesda.

They did KOTOR 2 and Neverwinter Nights 2, both of which were AWFUL.

 

[SniperWolf427]

Is it just me or does Alpha Protocol seem like Obsidian's attempt to create their own Mass Effect...

Not that I would consider that a bad thing, in fact more power to them.

The similarities are pretty intense though, in my opinion.

Obsidian has always been making games that are almost....tributes to Bioware games. They did KOTOR 2 and Neverwinter Nights 2; both of which were sequels to Bioware games.

Obsidian are excellent developers, they just aren't too hot with ideas. They're also making Fallout: New Vegas as their tribute to Bethesda.

They did KOTOR 2 and Neverwinter Nights 2, both of which were AWFUL.

Interesting thing to say, considering they didn't change a bloody thing from the original games, aside from the story line and graphics.