An 8-year old wants Gears of War 2

Doug

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Amnestic said:
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Sheeeeeeeee-it. Somebody needs to explain to that lady what Gears of War is about. Kids that young should not be playing body-exploding violence like gears.
Do you think? I was playing Silent Hill at the age of 10. That's rated M by the ESRB. I turned out okay, although I am thoroughly afraid of zombie nurses. Non-undead nurses I'm fine with.
See, an irrational fear! Its stuff like this that keeps Zombies from becoming nurses. Grey Power!
 

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Doug said:
Amnestic said:
DirkGently said:
Sheeeeeeeee-it. Somebody needs to explain to that lady what Gears of War is about. Kids that young should not be playing body-exploding violence like gears.
Do you think? I was playing Silent Hill at the age of 10. That's rated M by the ESRB. I turned out okay, although I am thoroughly afraid of zombie nurses. Non-undead nurses I'm fine with.
See, an irrational fear! Its stuff like this that keeps Zombies from becoming nurses. Grey Power!
I thought it was because of that first time they tried to do a brain transplant. And one of the nurses, not saying which one, went to lunch and took the brain with her. And didn't come back with it.
 

ThePlasmatizer

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Doug said:
Amnestic said:
DirkGently said:
Sheeeeeeeee-it. Somebody needs to explain to that lady what Gears of War is about. Kids that young should not be playing body-exploding violence like gears.
Do you think? I was playing Silent Hill at the age of 10. That's rated M by the ESRB. I turned out okay, although I am thoroughly afraid of zombie nurses. Non-undead nurses I'm fine with.
See, an irrational fear! Its stuff like this that keeps Zombies from becoming nurses. Grey Power!
I'm amused by some of these "...and I turned out okay" answers, when children are just starting to learn reasoning and morals I don't think it's worth the risk exposing them to something that could be psychologically damaging to their development,
or do you actually believe all 10 year olds are rational beings that are emotionally mature?

If you need an example remember that kid mike's topic about how he wanted to play age 18 games it went something along the lines of "I want to play 18 rated games, it's totally unfair as Im completely mature and if you don't like my opinion you can suck it".
 

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ESRB definatly needs more ratings (a revision I think is in progress). Teen needs to be revised to REALL be teen (13-17) and we need an 18+ rating- 'mature' is too vague.

And, thread made http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.76423
Actually, we have the AO (Adults Only, 18+ rating)...The problem is that the AO rating is pointless and might as well be dropped altogether. The "Big Three" have a strict "no AO games" policy with their consoles, and all major retailers (Like Gamestop, Wal-Mart, etc.) refuse to carry the AO rating.

Here is the current ESRB:

E - 7+
E10+ - 10+
T - 13+
M - 17+
AO - 18+ (But again, AO doesn't count if you ask me because you never see it...)

Personally, I think the ESRB is alright with the core ratings, it is just a bit vague with what constitutes what rating. There is no set standard. It is completely up to the whim of who are rating the game that day. This means that you get some really crazy ratings. I've seen plenty of really, really tame M games, and some T games that I think should be M. And again, the AO rating should basically be revised to BH, for "Ban Hammer: No one can play this game because no one will carry it."

The ESRB certainly needs reform, but I think it should more be based around making the content descriptors more detailed*, reworking the AO rating, and putting set standards.

*Perfect example: With the MPAA, they have torture and violence under different categories. If a movie has torture and intense/graphic violence, the MPAA specifically states that it contains both intense violence AND torture. This is very helpful. Someone might be okay with, say, watching graphic war violence, but they might not like to see, say, a POW being tortured in a particularly gruesome way. Believe it or not, many Americans are iffy about this. The TV show 24 wasn't usually criticized for its violence, it is usually criticized for showing main characters using torture to get information.
 

Altorin

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AO is just a place for the ESRB to put games that break all the rules. Stores won't sell it, so its the red zone they use to soft censor the gaming industry
 

Amnestic

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ThePlasmatizer said:
Doug said:
Amnestic said:
DirkGently said:
Sheeeeeeeee-it. Somebody needs to explain to that lady what Gears of War is about. Kids that young should not be playing body-exploding violence like gears.
Do you think? I was playing Silent Hill at the age of 10. That's rated M by the ESRB. I turned out okay, although I am thoroughly afraid of zombie nurses. Non-undead nurses I'm fine with.
See, an irrational fear! Its stuff like this that keeps Zombies from becoming nurses. Grey Power!
I'm amused by some of these "...and I turned out okay" answers, when children are just starting to learn reasoning and morals I don't think it's worth the risk exposing them to something that could be psychologically damaging to their development,
or do you actually believe all 10 year olds are rational beings that are emotionally mature?

If you need an example remember that kid mike's topic about how he wanted to play age 18 games it went something along the lines of "I want to play 18 rated games, it's totally unfair as Im completely mature and if you don't like my opinion you can suck it".
Well that's why one has to call for parental discretion. I'd assume they know their child better than most people, certainly better than the Escapists here. Could that child in particular handle it? Who knows. My parents were obviously of the opinion I could and as I said, I'm not axe murdering people or committing horrific acts of torture. I do have some slightly controversial opinions on the Death Penalty but that's another story.
 

ThePlasmatizer

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Amnestic said:
ThePlasmatizer said:
Doug said:
Amnestic said:
DirkGently said:
Sheeeeeeeee-it. Somebody needs to explain to that lady what Gears of War is about. Kids that young should not be playing body-exploding violence like gears.
Do you think? I was playing Silent Hill at the age of 10. That's rated M by the ESRB. I turned out okay, although I am thoroughly afraid of zombie nurses. Non-undead nurses I'm fine with.
See, an irrational fear! Its stuff like this that keeps Zombies from becoming nurses. Grey Power!
I'm amused by some of these "...and I turned out okay" answers, when children are just starting to learn reasoning and morals I don't think it's worth the risk exposing them to something that could be psychologically damaging to their development,
or do you actually believe all 10 year olds are rational beings that are emotionally mature?

If you need an example remember that kid mike's topic about how he wanted to play age 18 games it went something along the lines of "I want to play 18 rated games, it's totally unfair as Im completely mature and if you don't like my opinion you can suck it".
Well that's why one has to call for parental discretion. I'd assume they know their child better than most people, certainly better than the Escapists here. Could that child in particular handle it? Who knows. My parents were obviously of the opinion I could and as I said, I'm not axe murdering people or committing horrific acts of torture. I do have some slightly controversial opinions on the Death Penalty but that's another story.
It's a bit hard for parental discretion, you can't tell whether a child can handle something until they experience it.

Don't tell me you support the death penalty, where's the compassion?
 

Amnestic

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Don't tell me you support the death penalty, where's the compassion?
I support the Death Penalty indeed, but again, that's a discussion for another thread entirely.

It's a bit hard for parental discretion, you can't tell whether a child can handle something until they experience it.
Hmm. True enough I suppose. Admittedly I'm not a parent so I can't talk, I may have to ask my parents on their decision to let me play 18 games at such a young age and what lead them to the (correct, as it happens) idea that it was A-okay.
 

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Maybe make buying games have a vending machine type thing involved. To get a copy you have to press a button which explains the content, then it opens up and you can take your game to the counter to purchase.
 

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Yeah, I signed up to the forum to make this post >_>

Anyway, I am a 17 year old (as of yesterday) who has been gaming since I was.. five? I really cant remember although I do still own a megadrive... yay sonic I guess.. but the point ive been dancing round is that I have been playing 18 games for a damn long time, I think the first was the original Mortal Kombat for the megadrive, then GTA, but I have not (as so obviously should have happened according to the media) turned into a serial-killer paedophile with no grasp of manners or common sense. Oh, and I come from Glasgows East End, so I should technically also be a drunken gang member who will kill anyone wearing blue.

Instead, (I hope that) I am a decent balanced person as close to normal as I would really want to get without cutting out my brain and dancing to J-Pop, yet whenever I see anything on the news it makes me consider my mental health as a gamer and think I may be some form of mutant. What is even more laughable is that yesterday (my birthday) I was turned away from buying a replacement copy of GTA:VC because I was under 18, the clark said I wouldn't understand the level of violence in the game, until I rattled off the entire storyline of the entire GTA series until he appeared to have some form of mental breakdown and went to get the manager, who politely gave me £40 cash to walk away and stop breaking his robo.. staff members...

But I digress..

I think..

Anyway, in summary, the news networks can go fuck themselves with a large, rusty spiked metal dildo.

Thank you for reading the rant.
 

Amnestic

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who politely gave me £40 cash to walk away and stop breaking his robo.. staff members...
Woah woah. So I can masquerade as a 17 year old (not hard, 'twas only 6 months ago when that was true), and if I read off an easy to remember storyline I can get £40 for free?

To the games store Robin! Money to be made!
 

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TsunamiWombat said:
I think the wording should be "will likely contain"
the rating tab on the back of the box contains exactly why the game got that rating. for example fable with its M rating lists: blood, strong language, violence, and sexual themes. Between that, the info about the game on the back of the box, and the "what the ratings mean" posters, there's no real reason for a parent not to know what's in the game there buying for there child if they ever bothered to give a damn.
 

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Sorry I can't relate to this because I live in Australia. Sad face :(
Well I guess when Man Hunt was first out that was something special. I learned a lot from that game, especially how dangerous plastic bags can be.
 

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tehb0ll0x said:
Gahars said:
Idiot parents who buy games their children aren't old enough for give FAUX news ammo, which gives us gamers a bad name.

It needs to end.
Fixed that one for you.
I see what you did there

Nice

(*Gives high five to tehb0ll0x*)
 

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Amnestic said:
who politely gave me £40 cash to walk away and stop breaking his robo.. staff members...
Woah woah. So I can masquerade as a 17 year old (not hard, 'twas only 6 months ago when that was true), and if I read off an easy to remember storyline I can get £40 for free?

To the games store Robin! Money to be made!
Tell me about it, I literaly stared at him for a good 30 seconds, waiting for the proverbial media douchebag to jump out with a camera to support their war on fun.

Speaking of that, whats the latest news on Jack Thompson? He still attempting to suck the fun out of life?
 

Amnestic

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Snipercam7 said:
Amnestic said:
who politely gave me £40 cash to walk away and stop breaking his robo.. staff members...
Woah woah. So I can masquerade as a 17 year old (not hard, 'twas only 6 months ago when that was true), and if I read off an easy to remember storyline I can get £40 for free?

To the games store Robin! Money to be made!
Tell me about it, I literaly stared at him for a good 30 seconds, waiting for the proverbial media douchebag to jump out with a camera to support their war on fun.

Speaking of that, whats the latest news on Jack Thompson? He still attempting to suck the fun out of life?
He was disbarred last time I checked, he endorsed Sarah Palin in the elections, and I've not heard anything of him since, which is probably a good thing.
 

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indyfan said:
Looney tunes is just as bad as Gears of War
yeah, I remember that episode where daffy duck used an assault rifle with a chainsaw on the end to cut elmer fudd into a pile of bloody body parts and spraying blood.

Oh how I laaaaaaughed.