SaneAmongInsane said:
For fucks sake, don't be one of those folks that dissects and argument bit by bit. Just quote what I wrote and write a response underneath. It's fucking annoying. (not an attack at you sir, I just hate that posting style.)
I do it because it helps ensure I'm organizing my thoughts properly, and so there's no confusion what I'm responding to -- we're not the only ones reading this conversation, let's assume.
*rolls eyes* If I become a cop, getting shot out and hearing cries of "FUCK THA POLICE" comes with the territory. If I choose to be soldier, taking someones life comes with the territory. If I'm watching little kids, getting called juvenile names comes with that territory. So no, you're wrong.
Not so. See, if I'm a cop or a soldier (or working in retail, etc., like you mention), I'm dealing with
other adults. Assholes though they may be, it's not my place to judge or correct their behavior or manners. A cop can arrest someone for doing something illegal, not just for doing something rude.
But as a teacher, teacher assistant, or other adult monitor in a school setting, you're an adult in charge of students. Then, it
is your place to judge and correct that behavior.
That is what "comes with the territory."
I always took direction better from the people that assured me that they where just doing their jobs to earn their paychecks then the jerks that would stare down at me from their position of inscrutable power and say they were right simply because school policy said though.
Clearly you've never been a teacher. Sorry, but with 50 kids in the room (And make no mistake, I have that every day), there just isn't time to laboriously explain myself to each and every child. Adults, that's another matter -- we're on equal footing. But, sorry, sometimes kids just have to accept that the adult is In Charge.
I let my kids know at the beginning of each year that I'm glad to explain myself.
Later, in private. But during class? Nope. No time. I say it, you do it, ask about it later. 49 other kids in the room don't want you taking up their time with pointless questions (that pretty much always amount to stalling and trying to get out of work).
Dude I was 18 in my senior year of high school. Legally old enough to smoke, have sex, and be drafted into the war. If I committed murder at that age, I'd be tried as an adult. Who is the school/faculty/anyone to say that at that point that I don't have the right to listen to my ipod during my free period?
How's this:
They're the people running the place. It's that simple. It doesn't matter to me if you're 8 or 80, if you come into my house and do something I don't want, you can either stop it or I'll make you leave. Because it ain't a partnership.
Congratulations that you can point to an instance when someone made the wrong call. When you're in charge of keeping track of a couple hundred folks at a time, see if you don't mess up every now and again. And that's the issue -- the whining child is only processing the situation from his egocentric point of view, while the adult is having to juggle a few dozen other people.
