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Angry Birds Dev Foresees Doom for Consoles
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Moblile games, especially those for the iphone are basically just things to pass time when you on a bus, train or avoiding doing an essay, kind of like flash games on the internet. And as far as the acctual games go in the mobile area none of them are all that orgional, most have been done countless times as flash games. the only real differance is that you can now do it with a touch screen.... wow.... Angry Birds is one of these games.
No the consol market is not going to be brought down by mobile games, the mobile phone game market will take a plumet at some point and this is just the sudden rush of popularity getting to some idiot at angry birds HQ's head.
Similar thing happened to farmville, there's an article somewhere on hear that mentions it.
No the consol market is not going to be brought down by mobile games, the mobile phone game market will take a plumet at some point and this is just the sudden rush of popularity getting to some idiot at angry birds HQ's head.
Similar thing happened to farmville, there's an article somewhere on hear that mentions it.
Well that seems to reflect a very limited understand of the culture of gaming. I mean this is pretty much as short sighted an opinion as people who bury there heads in the sand and ignore "casual" gaming. Different stroked for different folks, no one type of gaming or system can capture the entire market. If anything the fact that mobile gaming is growing is a sign that the market is becoming more diverse not less diverse like he predicts.
I read it, but all i hear is blablablabla...insert selfpromoting nonsens. blablablabla
Crap like angry birds and 2inch screens will never, and i mean NEVER compete with consoles, for anything.
Crap like angry birds and 2inch screens will never, and i mean NEVER compete with consoles, for anything.
I'd rather play angry birds to 99% of AAA games, so he may not be completely wrong. Considering some of the people who play CoD, I don't think his comments are out of line either. As for consoles, I think they will change until they are unrecognisable anymore, with greater use of wireless systems and interactive controllers. I'm not sure that they will go away though... look at the co-existence of PC/Console gaming to see that there is a market for multi-platform gaming
Making Consoles entirely obsolete?
No. The sole reason the mobile market has such flexibility now is ironically because of its limitations; you cannot provide the same experience on a mobile device as a dedicated console or PC simply due to technical limitations.
With such limitations in place, you're forced to attack the problem differently or produce an inferior imitation of an existing product. The same limitations spawned creative titles during the earlier days of PC Gaming and Consoles before; and yet both are still around today.
What he fails to realize is that even if mobile gaming evolved, became more popular and made consoles obsolete, the major publishers would come in and place more expectations on future titles; resulting in fewer companies being able to think outside the box. And thus, that "nimble" advantage he describes will lose its potency; we end up where we are now.
In short, Vesterbaka sounds like he's tooting his own horn.
No. The sole reason the mobile market has such flexibility now is ironically because of its limitations; you cannot provide the same experience on a mobile device as a dedicated console or PC simply due to technical limitations.
With such limitations in place, you're forced to attack the problem differently or produce an inferior imitation of an existing product. The same limitations spawned creative titles during the earlier days of PC Gaming and Consoles before; and yet both are still around today.
What he fails to realize is that even if mobile gaming evolved, became more popular and made consoles obsolete, the major publishers would come in and place more expectations on future titles; resulting in fewer companies being able to think outside the box. And thus, that "nimble" advantage he describes will lose its potency; we end up where we are now.
In short, Vesterbaka sounds like he's tooting his own horn.
He's serious? Just because his Crush the Castle rip-off is getting a TV show, consoles are over?
A mobile deivce, say an iPhone, has a small screen, no actual buttons or triggers, no analog sticks, a supershort batterylife, and when your battery is dead, you can't call or text anymore...
Yeah, all clear advantages over consoles...
A mobile deivce, say an iPhone, has a small screen, no actual buttons or triggers, no analog sticks, a supershort batterylife, and when your battery is dead, you can't call or text anymore...
Yeah, all clear advantages over consoles...
Angry birds will not replace Call of Duty, Call of duty will not replace Starcraft
oh and smart phones and tablets will never replace consuls/pc's
Those who say otherwise do not understand the the vast differences allowed in the different platforms
oh and smart phones and tablets will never replace consuls/pc's
Those who say otherwise do not understand the the vast differences allowed in the different platforms
I'm sorry, but what is wrong with some of these mobile/indie developers? Are they really this arrogant?
If anything all this guy did was make me, and looking from some of the other replies here, others lose respect for indie developers.
What he says sounds like an anti-console, anti-competition, monopoly-grabbing, smear campaign if you ask me. So much for the indie developers being "good guys who are passionate about gaming."
Minecraft was the first true indie title I bought, but if all this smear campaigning from indie developers keeps up it might end up being the only indie title I buy.
I know not all indie developers engage in these smear campaigns. In fact most of them welcome the competition from, and respect, the bigger developers. However, some of these more stuck up indie developers need to learn to shut up.
If anything all this guy did was make me, and looking from some of the other replies here, others lose respect for indie developers.
What he says sounds like an anti-console, anti-competition, monopoly-grabbing, smear campaign if you ask me. So much for the indie developers being "good guys who are passionate about gaming."
Minecraft was the first true indie title I bought, but if all this smear campaigning from indie developers keeps up it might end up being the only indie title I buy.
I know not all indie developers engage in these smear campaigns. In fact most of them welcome the competition from, and respect, the bigger developers. However, some of these more stuck up indie developers need to learn to shut up.
Yeah, nimble. Rip off "Crush the Castle", toss some cartoony smiles on it and sell it to a bunch of hipsters with iphonesY who don't know any better. You're so wise and revolutionary and creative and talented, please great sensei, tell us how it's done.
I feel sorry for the creators of the 10-15 flash games I've played on addictinggames.com that angry birds pretty much ripped off.
When mobile (and I mean cell phone games; portable game systems like the Gameboys and PSPs have always been pretty close to the static consoles) games can deliver the same sort of enjoyment that I get from playing Fallout 3, Civilization IV, Mass Effect, Team Fortress 2, and Starcraft; then they will "kill" the console market. Until that point, they're nothing more than small "one-trick ponies" which you play for a bit, then move onto something else.
Guy gets a bit of success and talks huge. Anyone surprised?
Consoles may die, but not on the premise of these titles.
Consoles may die, but not on the premise of these titles.
As consumers, so long as we continue buying the products that we enjoy, most likely, companies will continue to supply them. If Call of Duty is any indication, there is a VERY strong audience for games over $5.
... If he can manage to get a game that is as enriching as Starcraft 2 or Shogun Total War 2 or Europa Universalis and make it work on a cellphone with no loss of depth, no loss ofcontrol, no loss of graphical power...
THen we'lltalk.
THen we'lltalk.
Lol.
That's complete tripe. I for one would never think that mobile gaming could ever come close to comparing with console gaming. Sure I love mobile games/devices, I'm playing some Pokemon White on my DS right now and I like to play games on my phone from time to time. But you can't match the sheer depth and enormity of a console game with something like a mobile device. For one your are heavily limited to control mechanics when it comes to a mobile device. I wouldn't even want to try to play something like Mass Effect 2 or Super Mario Galaxy on a phone or iPhone/iPad heck I wouldn't even want to play games like that on a DS or PSP. The controllers that we have today are specifically developed to make the games do as much as possible with as little of effort. You wouldn't be able to do that on a phone unless you want to start adding Controller peripherals to it... and that is just kind of weird. Also the graphical and data limitations of a phone/smaller device compared to a console. I know iPad and other type things are getting lots better with graphics and they can come up with some pretty amazing graphics, but it's still fairly limited in comparison to a console. This guy is just extrapolating to infinity and beyond. He sees a trend in mobile devices so obviously he thinks that trend will continue forever and never reach a limit, just a small guy with a bloated ego, he'll learn eventually i'm sure.
That's complete tripe. I for one would never think that mobile gaming could ever come close to comparing with console gaming. Sure I love mobile games/devices, I'm playing some Pokemon White on my DS right now and I like to play games on my phone from time to time. But you can't match the sheer depth and enormity of a console game with something like a mobile device. For one your are heavily limited to control mechanics when it comes to a mobile device. I wouldn't even want to try to play something like Mass Effect 2 or Super Mario Galaxy on a phone or iPhone/iPad heck I wouldn't even want to play games like that on a DS or PSP. The controllers that we have today are specifically developed to make the games do as much as possible with as little of effort. You wouldn't be able to do that on a phone unless you want to start adding Controller peripherals to it... and that is just kind of weird. Also the graphical and data limitations of a phone/smaller device compared to a console. I know iPad and other type things are getting lots better with graphics and they can come up with some pretty amazing graphics, but it's still fairly limited in comparison to a console. This guy is just extrapolating to infinity and beyond. He sees a trend in mobile devices so obviously he thinks that trend will continue forever and never reach a limit, just a small guy with a bloated ego, he'll learn eventually i'm sure.
Not sure about anyone else, but I like being able to relax and sit away from a screen. I don't really like tiny handheld systems. Give me a controller and a big screen over a tiny touch pad any day. LONG LIVE THE CONSOLES!!! ALSO LONG LIVE THE PC!!! (but not the mac. f*** macs)
when i read this i LOLD.HOw does a phone replace a consle?I can imagina a RPG on a phone,TERRIBLE.Portables like the PSP and Ds are the way to go. Nuff' said