Angry Minnesotans Take 3D Printer Away From Gunmaker

[Do4600]

My problem with this is that if these people are successful these weapons will fall into the hands of people we really don't want to have these weapons as well as people we want to have these weapons. A plastic handgun is the absolute perfect tool for an assassination, it's virtually undetectable, untraceable and could be produced in a matter of hours at a relatively low cost.

In a country where gun ownership is legal, owning a plastic handgun is basically an admission of guilt that you are about to commit a heinous crime. The reason for this is that if you are able to legally buy a handgun through the regular channels the only reason you would have a plastic handgun is to not take responsibility for firing it.

While the implications & dangers associated with such a project are obvious, they have a definite point here. Imagine what it would be like if oppressed & impoverished parts of the world could cheaply & quickly develop the means to defend themselves. I can't help but wonder if such technology wouldn't help balance the scales in countries like Iran, Libya, Sudan, The Republic of The Congo

That image right there is the perfect argument in favor of Defense Distributed. Smart money says the next village that group rolls into will wish it had the means to better arm itself.

Best case scenario, they're able to kill a few more of them before they're completely decimated, a few plastic weapons would not be able to repel them. It would get more of them killed because they would be more confidant with a plastic gun than no gun. What I think it would do is teach the raiders to shoot earlier. Making everybody armed just makes everybody scared of everybody else, in a place like The Republic of The Congo or Sudan, it would mean that the unarmed people would never band together against the armed people because they are all armed. The communities protecting themselves with weapons would not know a raiding party from another community protecting itself with weapons. It would devolve into Day Z where the only option is shooting first. In places like the United States it works that people carry guns because we live in a society that is very non-violent by comparison.

 

[Do4600]

Oddly enough, these predictions NEVER come to pass.

"On January 8, 2011, U.S. Representative Gabrielle Giffords and eighteen other people were shot during a public meeting held in a supermarket parking lot in Casas Adobes, near Tucson, Arizona. Six of those shot died, including Arizona District Court Chief Judge John Roll; one of Rep. Giffords' staffers; and a nine-year-old child, Christina-Taylor Green. Giffords was holding a constituent meeting called "Congress on Your Corner" in the parking lot of a Safeway store when prosecutors allege Jared Lee Loughner drew a pistol and shot her in the head, subsequently firing on other people."

Extended magazines allowed? Supermarket's awash with blood.

 

[Do4600]

Oddly enough, these predictions NEVER come to pass.

"On January 8, 2011, U.S. Representative Gabrielle Giffords and eighteen other people were shot during a public meeting held in a supermarket parking lot in Casas Adobes, near Tucson, Arizona. Six of those shot died, including Arizona District Court Chief Judge John Roll; one of Rep. Giffords' staffers; and a nine-year-old child, Christina-Taylor Green. Giffords was holding a constituent meeting called "Congress on Your Corner" in the parking lot of a Safeway store when prosecutors allege Jared Lee Loughner drew a pistol and shot her in the head, subsequently firing on other people."

Extended magazines allowed? Supermarket's awash with blood.

Standard glock 19 magazine size is 17 rounds. Witnesses placed between 15 and 20 shots fired before he tried to reload. He didn't actually use the 33 round capacity. Then he drops the reload. Then someone hits him with a chair. Not seeing how extended mags helped him.

I can't believe you're arguing this. He used half the magazine and injured 20 people, of those 20 six of them died from their injuries. Now imagine what would have happened if he had actually used the whole magazine that was available to him?

Or take the 2012 Aurora shooting. Guy had 138 shots between all his weapons. Injured 70, killed 12 and could have been so much worse if the drum magazine he was using hadn't malfunctioned a third of the way into it.

If the only guns citizens had legal access to had six shots; when people go absolutely crazy, which they always will, it would at least mitigate the damage a single person can do. That's what I want, I want to limit the individual killing power a single person can have in this country. Because they don't need excessive killing power, we have things called laws and also things called police which deter crime. This isn't Darfur, there aren't roaming gangs of heavily armed people bent on killing you on sight. If you can name a single feasible situation within the continental United States where you would need to fire 100 5.56 cartridges without reloading in order to survive I would love to hear it.