Anonymous Declares "Infowar" on Wikileaks Opponents

[SenseOfTumour]

Hmm, again my cynicism rises 'You know this Jullian Guy leaked documents and affected national security?'

'yeah..so what? you need to tighten your security then.'

'Oh, um, in that case he raped someone.'

'Right, get the pitchforks and flaming torches!'

Is how it's appearing to me right now.

Then I'm going to contradict myself partially, by bringing up the case of Gary McKinnon, a brit, with autism, who hacked the Pentagon's computers looking for information about aliens, and is now in a constant legal battle with the US, as they want him deported so they can jail him for 60 as a terrorist.

Without being flippant, this seems another case of the letter of the law being used when the spirit should have been.

Yes, he broke in, yes you all feel foolish to have had millions of dollars of security exposed as worthless by one guy, but he never had any evil intent, the rational thing to do would either a mild punishment or dammit, HIRE the guy to show you where your damn weaknesses are.

Instead of stamping all over these people to lock them away forever from their families, how about you hire them, let them help you improve what you're doing wrong. I'm sure this Julian guy thinks he's doing the right thing, even if he's perhaps doing it the wrong way or doing it carelessly.

Also, with no disrespect meant to the 9/11 victims, as I sense it'll get brought up in response to my comment, but, I really don't think terrorism is as bad as the government like to make it out to be, the more you tighten security and show your fear, the more they've won.

 

[Jabberwock xeno]

This is the future of warefare; not physical battles, but attacks via information.

 

[milkkart]

well heres hoping some some of the old school anons with proper skills will get in on this and do some real damage that script kiddies like me can't with the LOIC.

 

[Kije]

This took longer than I thought. But its better than never I guess...

 

[Leuchtender Soldat]

Knowledge is Power.

 

[Lord_Ascendant]

Well Then, I must be off to war!
EDIT:

I personally think the internet, probably 4chan, will rise up into some sort of global revolution. Hopefully with robots and the bear cavalry. Just sayin'

Is this what you were expecting?

Maybe....>.> also a few of these

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Knowledge is Power.

Hide it well? ~ WH40k Space Marine Librarian

 

[AlexWinter]

Yes, he broke in, yes you all feel foolish to have had millions of dollars of security exposed as worthless by one guy,

Good points overall but I don't think he actually breaks into government files, the documents are uploaded by other people and they are moderated by Assange.

However, I might be wrong.

 

[Leuchtender Soldat]

Knowledge is Power.

Hide it well? ~ WH40k Space Marine Librarian

No, Whip it out before the other guy does.

 

[Delusibeta]

And by the way, Wikileaks not only revealed important facilities in America, but in UK and in many other countries. So yes, the radical-bombing members of the IRA could possibly use the list. Use your head.

I wonder how much of that list can't be found by Googling "Nuclear power plants/Airports/Factories/Docks/Major cities/whatever in UK/US/Austalia/whatever".

 

[CLEVERSLEAZOID]

A man releases dox on governments.

All of a sudden, man is wanted for sexual assault.

Anyone else call bullshit?

BS(Most Likely) or Not, he's gonna disappear.

I was just discussing this issue with my father.

We both agreed there was no way they could just 'disappear' him, because it'd be far too obvious that he'd upset the wrong people. At least if they drum up these rape charges and get him shoved in prison, the majority of the ignorant general public will believe it and won't question why.

The whole thing is an absolute joke. The people need to know at least -some- of the things the government do. Obviously that makes it hard for spies and the like, but to be honest, should we be spying on each other in this day and age? It's all to do with corruption of power, and there really isn't much we can do about it.

Yes, he broke in, yes you all feel foolish to have had millions of dollars of security exposed as worthless by one guy,

Good points overall but I don't think he actually breaks into government files, the documents are uploaded by other people and they are moderated by Assange.

However, I might be wrong.

You are correct Alex, the files were uploaded to him and his small team, and they went over the documents to prove the legitness of the dox, and then posted them to their site. I believe that they must have some pretty horrific stuff they haven't released, just for the reason it'd be too much for the public to find out about.

I'm also quite surprised by the lack of any media publications themselves properly going over the cables and reprinting them. I guess they've all been commanded by the powers that be not to. Then again I haven't really poked around too much on the internet for this information, and the only articles about this whole debacle I've read in the UK newspapers only seem to be based on the fact that he 'posted top secret stolen government documents online, and was wanted for sexual assault charges'.

 

[Normalgamer]

I can fix all of this, just give me 5 minutes alone with that piss ant, Assange.

He's a pissant for telling the truth? Your "Solution" seems a bit barbaric.

 

[erto101]

Personally I'm convinced that the rape charges are bogus. How they emerged just doesn't make much sense.

the companies that have attempted to sever its online and financial ties continue to claim that they did so not because of political pressure but because of terms of service violations or technical issues.

Cowards and liars.

He is charged with haveing unprotected sex xD
The two women had sex with him by choice. In one case the condom broke and he didn't stop. The other girl runs a blog on how to get revenge on men, say by getting them framed for "rape".

If the condom breaks and you don't stop even though the gril tells you to, you can be charge with rape in Sweden

 

[Leuchtender Soldat]

A man releases dox on governments.

All of a sudden, man is wanted for sexual assault.

Anyone else call bullshit?

BS(Most Likely) or Not, he's gonna disappear.

I was just discussing this issue with my father.

We both agreed there was no way they could just 'disappear' him, because it'd be far too obvious that he'd upset the wrong people. At least if they drum up these rape charges and get him shoved in prison, the majority of the ignorant general public will believe it and won't question why.

The whole thing is an absolute joke. The people need to know at least -some- of the things the government do. Obviously that makes it hard for spies and the like, but to be honest, should we be spying on each other in this day and age? It's all to do with corruption of power, and there really isn't much we can do about it.

Actually it's fully reasonable for an inmate with a hatred of rapists(a lot of them HATE! them) to be placed in the same cell where there's 'suddenly a suicide' Look at the pedophile priests.

 

[Random berk]

I'm sorry but to hell with this rapist. His alleged sexual-assault crime aside, the man has exposed HIGHLY classified material on the damn internet. No, I don't mean historical documents concerning the Iraq and Afghanistan Wars. Those documents are history are fully protected by the First Amendment's Freedom of the Press, look up the Pentagon Papers for a similar case involving the Vietnam War and government leaks. I know the man is Australian, but I'm going to judge him by the American legal system.

However, what is NOT PROTECTED is divulging secrets that pose a national security threat. Like say the locations of HIGHLY IMPORTANT sites according to Homeland Security. If I was a terrorist (be it for Al-Qaeda, Neo-Nazi, IRA, etc.) then a list like that is essentially a travel log of where to commit the most horrific result. That's not freedom of the press, that's putting people's lives in danger. So please do not act all surprised when you see politicians in my country calling for his head, he's not some righteous savior...he's a fucking asshole

I can see voicing my own opinions on the matter in this quote will result in a flame duel, so I'll voice another aspect of my curiosity. Why do you include the IRA in your list of feared terrorists? As far as I'm aware of, the U.S has never been a high priority target for Gerry Adams and his crew.

 

[Mcface]

I'm sorry but to hell with this rapist. His alleged sexual-assault crime aside, the man has exposed HIGHLY classified material on the damn internet. No, I don't mean historical documents concerning the Iraq and Afghanistan Wars. Those documents are history are fully protected by the First Amendment's Freedom of the Press, look up the Pentagon Papers for a similar case involving the Vietnam War and government leaks. I know the man is Australian, but I'm going to judge him by the American legal system.

However, what is NOT PROTECTED is divulging secrets that pose a national security threat. Like say the locations of HIGHLY IMPORTANT sites according to Homeland Security. If I was a terrorist (be it for Al-Qaeda, Neo-Nazi, IRA, etc.) then a list like that is essentially a travel log of where to commit the most horrific result. That's not freedom of the press, that's putting people's lives in danger. So please do not act all surprised when you see politicians in my country calling for his head, he's not some righteous savior...he's a fucking asshole

First of all.. his 'actions' are such that anyone of us could be accused of.. this is just a massive smear campaign being organised and funded by the people he is outing....In this day and age you REALLY should be more aware of the lies and methods used against people to keep them quiet or to distract PEOPLE LIKE YOU away from what is REALLY going on. You should start thinkig for yourself instead of swallowing what the establishment throws at you.

Secondly.. of all the shit you have seen and read about the details of what is being revealed by this peson.. ARE YOU REALLY SURE that we shouldn't know about this.. and if we do all just BURY OUR HEADS IN THE SAND who will stop things from getting worse, a TRUE FASCIST SOCIETY..because they are certainly not going to get any better.

As for the arguement 'but people are going to be harmed.. waaaa'.. really?.. then they shouldn't be involved.. THAT is what is causing 'harm' to come to them, not the revelations them self.

Assange is a BLOODY HERO, because he knew fine well he would be roasted,(regardless of his current legal status) and Anonymous are the only ones left who have the balls and resources to stick up for our rights (granted them may have more chaotic motives.. but the result is the same.)

There are some things that NEED to stay secret. At least for now. No justice is being done by leaking ongoing, or soon to be under way operations in the middle east, which could have cost a lot of lives. Also, a lot of this stuff with all of the nuclear bombs, we are all better off not knowing.

Our tax dollars are funding the war, we have a right to know what is really going on.

It's not about "whats going on".
We don't need to know troop movements and positions, weaknesses and strengths. Yes we need to know what happens after a battle. but NOT before it.

 

[Xaio30]

Modern Warfare: Now with information instead of guns!

 

[SenseOfTumour]

A man releases dox on governments.

All of a sudden, man is wanted for sexual assault.

Anyone else call bullshit?

BS(Most Likely) or Not, he's gonna disappear.

I was just discussing this issue with my father.

We both agreed there was no way they could just 'disappear' him, because it'd be far too obvious that he'd upset the wrong people. At least if they drum up these rape charges and get him shoved in prison, the majority of the ignorant general public will believe it and won't question why.

The whole thing is an absolute joke. The people need to know at least -some- of the things the government do. Obviously that makes it hard for spies and the like, but to be honest, should we be spying on each other in this day and age? It's all to do with corruption of power, and there really isn't much we can do about it.

Yes, he broke in, yes you all feel foolish to have had millions of dollars of security exposed as worthless by one guy,

Good points overall but I don't think he actually breaks into government files, the documents are uploaded by other people and they are moderated by Assange.

However, I might be wrong.

You are correct Alex, the files were uploaded to him and his small team, and they went over the documents to prove the legitness of the dox, and then posted them to their site. I believe that they must have some pretty horrific stuff they haven't released, just for the reason it'd be too much for the public to find out about.

I'm also quite surprised by the lack of any media publications themselves properly going over the cables and reprinting them. I guess they've all been commanded by the powers that be not to. Then again I haven't really poked around too much on the internet for this information, and the only articles about this whole debacle I've read in the UK newspapers only seem to be based on the fact that he 'posted top secret stolen government documents online, and was wanted for sexual assault charges'.

Yes, I meant more Gary McKinnon was breaking in, just out of curiousity, his autism meaning he probably didn't realise quite how serious it was, when he was just wanting to see if the US were hiding stuff about aliens.

As for the media, I'm fairly convinced, at least in the UK, the tabloids only care at all now there's a sexual angle.

As for googling info on terrorist targets, the UK has some funny ideas about that too, there's dozens of places on the official secrets act that you can't know anything about, but they'll have road signs leading to the places, official websites telling you about what they do, etc. Hell, almost everyone local knows London's MI5 HQ is at Thames House Millbank which it shares with the Northern Ireland Office. Yet by typing this, I've probably broken the Official Secrets Act, and even now could be guilty of child abuse by the morning, as it's far easier to smear someone than bother to actually make a legal case.

Ask a passer by who's local what 'that building is' tho, and most will go 'oh yeah, MI5.'

I remember seeing a Mark Thomas special on the secrets act, and just how much stupid stuff is deemed 'secret' yet in full view of everyone.