Anon already had quite an impact with the other revolutions in the middle east, i.e. Egypt. True, it is highly unlikely that anything will happen strictly because of them, but add whatever they do to whatever other factors are present and the same thing can happen as in Egypt.deadman91 said:BAAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA! This is fucking hilarious!
What the fuck are they gonna do? Do they honestly think anyone in Iran honestly gives a fuck whether a bunch of hackers stand with them? Does Anon think that if it knocks out a few websites they'll usher in some great revolution that will sweep across the nation and usher in a new era of secular prosperity?
The Ayatollah has stayed in power through proxy wars, real wars, protests, riots, famine, elections... Do they think that a bunch of westerners wagging their virtual fingers will get him to break a sweat?
If there is AnonOps then there must be some sort of power structure, if only for the duration of an operation. But if a few members went off on there own that is still no reason to blame the whole group. If a football player gets arrested, do we blame the team?SaneAmongInsane said:Says it right there they don't discredit the idea some of their hackers may of did it on their own for their own lulz. Plus how the hell would they know if they did it or not when they have no power structure?JET1971 said:http://anonnews.org/?p=press&a=item&i=848SaneAmongInsane said:So Anon steals our credit card information but then tries to save face by attack Iran?
*Le Sigh*
I'm getting quite sick of computer hackers and how they seemingly have no moral compass to keep their absolute power in check.
Iran has no nukes. none 0 nada.Charlie Emerson said:My bet on what they should do. Hack nuke codes, gain control and change codes to something really awesome, like DOUBLESGET! or somthing along those lines
It doesn't. Anonymous is incredibly hard to explain. Anyone who has a computer can claim to be anonymous. It originated on the four-chan image board, which due to the way they are set up allow anonymous posting. This leads to everyone posting under the name anonymous, and jokes that Anonymous was a single person.MiracleOfSound said:Roughly how many people are in Anonymous?
Is it like a small group of hackers or is it a massive worldwide group of people who are above average with computers?
I don't understand how it works.
A better example....PS3fanboy said:If there is AnonOps then there must be some sort of power structure, if only for the duration of an operation. But if a few members went off on there own that is still no reason to blame the whole group. If a football player gets arrested, do we blame the team?SaneAmongInsane said:Says it right there they don't discredit the idea some of their hackers may of did it on their own for their own lulz. Plus how the hell would they know if they did it or not when they have no power structure?JET1971 said:http://anonnews.org/?p=press&a=item&i=848SaneAmongInsane said:So Anon steals our credit card information but then tries to save face by attack Iran?
*Le Sigh*
I'm getting quite sick of computer hackers and how they seemingly have no moral compass to keep their absolute power in check.
Iran doesn't have nukes. Israel would never let it happen, and neither would we. That being said, Anon always confuses me. Sometimes they pick worthwhile targets like this, and sometimes they go out of their way to harass somebody who really doesn't deserve it. I honestly don't get the members who see themselves as a kind-of cyber "robin hood" organization, because all they really are are a bunch of nerds (not intended to be an insult) that go around mildly annoying people they don't like. They're more like the cyber equivalent of a bunch of kids throwing rocks at old man Druthers's house because he won't give their ball back.Jules57 said:Oh yes anon lets give people with nukes and a less than standard civil rights act a reason to not like us. Also if they do , do it I doubt very much it will make a difference, last time I checked guns worked without wifi
You know what, that would be nice. Hell, that would be fantastic. And I'd be ecstatic if it did.PS3fanboy said:Anon already had quite an impact with the other revolutions in the middle east, i.e. Egypt. True, it is highly unlikely that anything will happen strictly because of them, but add whatever they do to whatever other factors are present and the same thing can happen as in Egypt.deadman91 said:BAAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA! This is fucking hilarious!
What the fuck are they gonna do? Do they honestly think anyone in Iran honestly gives a fuck whether a bunch of hackers stand with them? Does Anon think that if it knocks out a few websites they'll usher in some great revolution that will sweep across the nation and usher in a new era of secular prosperity?
The Ayatollah has stayed in power through proxy wars, real wars, protests, riots, famine, elections... Do they think that a bunch of westerners wagging their virtual fingers will get him to break a sweat?
Anonops leadership is a core group, lets say oldest members or best leadership skilled members. they pretty much vote on a spokesperson and a target. the members and the core group change with time, and spokesperson changes with targets. its not the same thing as a government, and has no lines dividing location like governments. its anarchy within democracy in a way.PS3fanboy said:If there is AnonOps then there must be some sort of power structure, if only for the duration of an operation. But if a few members went off on there own that is still no reason to blame the whole group. If a football player gets arrested, do we blame the team?SaneAmongInsane said:Says it right there they don't discredit the idea some of their hackers may of did it on their own for their own lulz. Plus how the hell would they know if they did it or not when they have no power structure?JET1971 said:http://anonnews.org/?p=press&a=item&i=848SaneAmongInsane said:So Anon steals our credit card information but then tries to save face by attack Iran?
*Le Sigh*
I'm getting quite sick of computer hackers and how they seemingly have no moral compass to keep their absolute power in check.
It's a large number of people worldwide who are united by the ideas of free speech and Teh Lulz.MiracleOfSound said:Roughly how many people are in Anonymous?
Is it like a small group of hackers or is it a massive worldwide group of people who are above average with computers?
I don't understand how it works.
Yes, because the things they've done in Libya, Africa, etc. Have never helped anyone in the history of ever.Dango said:So Anon is helping people who actually need help for once? It's about damn time.
canadamus_prime said:So Anon is now picking their targets based on American propaganda eh? ¬_¬
Just how do they plan on attacking a 3rd world nation anyway? I doubt Iran has the greatest Internet access.
Gentlemen, I give you .... Stuxnet.Magenera said:What are they gonna do to Iran? Or more specifically what can they do to Iran.
I was just going of what I knew. I didn't know about the rising education levels and such. My main point, anyway, was that other things would be required. That Anon by itself would not cause a revolution.deadman91 said:You know what, that would be nice. Hell, that would be fantastic. And I'd be ecstatic if it did.PS3fanboy said:Anon already had quite an impact with the other revolutions in the middle east, i.e. Egypt. True, it is highly unlikely that anything will happen strictly because of them, but add whatever they do to whatever other factors are present and the same thing can happen as in Egypt.deadman91 said:BAAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA! This is fucking hilarious!
What the fuck are they gonna do? Do they honestly think anyone in Iran honestly gives a fuck whether a bunch of hackers stand with them? Does Anon think that if it knocks out a few websites they'll usher in some great revolution that will sweep across the nation and usher in a new era of secular prosperity?
The Ayatollah has stayed in power through proxy wars, real wars, protests, riots, famine, elections... Do they think that a bunch of westerners wagging their virtual fingers will get him to break a sweat?
But it's not. What happened in Egypt happened under an Egyptian context. Rising education levels, greater access to information, both of these happened without a rising standard of living. The protesters had the support of some of the most important religious leaders in the country, notably those in the Muslim Brotherhood. And most importantly, the army stayed way the hell out (for the most part) and backed the new government when it came into power.
This will not happen in Iran. Honestly I think people need to let Iran sort itself out. They're smart, often educated, long-thinking people who figured out a long time ago that change will be gradual, it will not happen over night.
I'd be happier if Anon was targeting Saudi Arabia.
I will toss another $5 ontop of yours. also you have some good points. then the western interferance was indoctrinated into them, i hope they can see past that.TheMadTypist said:Weeeell, from what I've read about Iranians, they're not too happy with everything that's going on in their government, but if any outside power tries to come in they'll unify against 'em. I would guess if anon wants to do anything of note they'd have to have a significant iranian chapter involved in whatever they're doing, or else it would be ruled as "western interference".
I'll be watching this one, it'll be interesting to see what they try to pull. If they don't cause any international incidents or similar this could be a step towards recovering whatever public support they lost in the Sony debacle. I've got five bucks that say Ahmadinejad will declare them a shadowy hand of American government though.