Anonymous Takes Out Go Daddy

Nimzabaat

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ElPatron said:
Andrewtheeviscerator said:
Please, some country, any country, find these idiots and make them rot in jail. I'm sick of tired of them breaking the laws and shitting all over us under the disguise of "we're doing it for you".
Yeah, let's impose a draconian tyranny on the internet and use massive violations of the penal code just to get a few script kiddies in jail.

"People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both."

That is Ben Franklin or whatever. There's dozens of variations on that quote and I'm not bored enough to google dead people.

Nimzabaat said:
So Anonymous censors the internet to fight "censoring the internet"... That's taking the high ground for ya!
"Oh no, they tried to assassinate Hitler because he was murdering people! Those devilish rascals!"

I have no reason to side with Anonymous but this kind of comments makes it hard to see them as the bad guys.


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Interested to see what the reason was for taking it down.
It's most likely typical hacker BS. They get their jollies from messing with people digitally. For no other reason then they have the ability to do so.
That reminds me of that black dude in the film Hackers. Doesn't actually understand hacking, never really had contact with hackers so when he tries to vilify hacking he just spits out some non-sense on camera.

Really, there are better explanations than "some men just want to watch the world burn" and that pseudo-internet-psychology doesn't actually replace knowledge. Which none of us have, and shouldn't pretend to have.

Dangit2019 said:
When will news guys and idiots on twitter learn? ANONYMOUS IS A GROUP THAT ANYONE CAN SAY THEY ARE PART OF. It is not official, it is not organized, so why do people keep pretending it is?
Esotera said:
Some guy on twitter with Anonymous in his name said that he took down GoDaddy, therefore it must be true...

I can't believe that every news site has jumped on this without any verification, and inflated the already massively undeserved reputation Anonymous has. I'm betting that it wasn't a hack and is a technical issue from GoDaddy's crappy infrastructure.

This times a hundred million. I also know of "some guy" in the Secret Service that used the internet to expose how Jews did 9/11, so he *must* be legit.
I like how you equate "a man is entitled to the sweat from his brow" and "throwing people in gas chambers" as the same level of evil.
 

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If anyone from Anon wants to do something useful with their lives that a majority of people will give a damn about they should try and take down Facebook or Twitter or both at the same time. Oh, and they will have to prove that it's them.
 

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Bradeck said:
As a paid subscriber to GoDaddy, and a small business owner who depends on his website, I am honestly trying to figure out what legal recourse I have here. I mean my business is effectively shut down by hackers.

My business insurance has a clause for "damage due to terrorist attack" and I am trying top decide if this counts as domestic terrorism. Even I think that's a little alarmist, but the point remains. My website has been down now for 48 hours. That's A LONG time in a service related industry.

I'll admit, I am NOT the best person to ask when it comes to whether or not X company is in bed with Y political stance. But that's no reason to effectively attack and possibly kill my business. This was a really poor choice of protest, and I am left now with lost time and money, and still no website.

Any advice?
Mount a dossier. Keep track of every single loss. They catch this guy; be prepared.
You possibly have a case on the civil side of the law, since he/she incured your financial loss.

Start mounting a lawyer bill for extra points. >8]
 

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I'm sorry, but we still care? Didn't anyone give 'em the memo that the Anon fad is over now?
o.0?! wait!? we where supposed to care about them? >.> <.< when was this? as i clearly missed it
 

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Anon have such a childish mentality its unbelievable. Its like me checking house security, trying doors and windows, and if they are open then i can walk in and steal stuff. An its just cos im helping....im not the criminal, its your fault for not securing your window and doors. lol.

There is a lot of freedom on the internet. What they want is the freedom to steal, pirate and take whatever they want for nothing. Thats the freedom they want.
 

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GoDaddy was started by Bob Parsons. (He stepped down as CEO in 2011.) This dude is an ex-marine self-made man with a shit ton of money. He has made a name for himself by finding a niche in any business endeavor that he's tried and exploiting the hell out of it to beat down the competition. He was Magna Cum Laude in accounting after he was wounded in Vietnam. He taught himself computer programming, to later sell his program Intuit for $64 million. He's essentially a hard working badass. I have a few domain names and a hosted web site on GoDaddy and their customer service is better than anybody's. I like the way he does business. I like him and what he stands for. Check him out: http://www.bobparsons.me/index.php

GoDaddy claims: ( http://www.godaddy.com/newscenter/release-view.aspx?news_item_id=410 )
"The service outage was not caused by external influences. It was not a "hack" and it was not a denial of service attack (DDoS). We have determined the service outage was due to a series of internal network events that corrupted router data tables. Once the issues were identified, we took corrective actions to restore services for our customers and GoDaddy.com. We have implemented measures to prevent this from occurring again."

If it was an external attack, Bob is the kind of guy to chase this sort of thing down. Maybe it'll get interesting for Anonymous. Probably not, but it's a fun concept. I'm reminded of the Mad TV sketch where a guy woke up from a 5-year drunk. He was told that he was president and had cured cancer. "How did I cure cancer?" "You took nine of the heads of the world's largest corporations and gave them all cancer. Within 7 months we had 4 different cures." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=va71a7pLvy8
 

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Andy Chalk said:
You may have noticed that Go Daddy, the largest internet domain registrar and web hosting company in the world, isn't currently online. You can thank Anonymous for that, specifically @AnonymousOwn3r [https://twitter.com/AnonymousOwn3r], the "security leader" of the amorphous internet collective, who claimed personal responsibility, independent of Anonymous, for the attack.
So, which one is it? Did Anonymous carry the attack, or the guy on Twitter, claiming to be their "security leader"?
 

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Nimzabaat said:
I like how you equate "a man is entitled to the sweat from his brow" and "throwing people in gas chambers" as the same level of evil.
Did you have to quote the whole thing? Anyway, I did not equate anything to Hitler.

I equated X to X, Y to Y and murder to murder. Last time I checked, civilized countries allow at the very least "equal force" in self-defense situations so I don't think it's an hypocrisy to kill someone to prevent death.

Spot1990 said:
Killing Hitler was A) Because there was this whole war thing going on and B) Because of genocide. There's a difference between murder and killing. Saying "censorship is wrong and if you disagree you don't get a say" is just being a hypocrite.
Just to get this out of the way, killing Hitler would not stop the war or the genocide. Hitler himself had people who could take over in case of his death.

Second, there are reasons to rise against a government or assassinate people. I don't know about you, I'm not going to check your profile and I won't judge you for your place of birth. But were your parents or grandparents living under a dictatorship?

Because I think it's pretty damn justified to silence or even kill a handful of powerful fat cats for the sake of millions of underdogs.
 

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ElPatron said:
Second, there are reasons to rise against a government or assassinate people. I don't know about you, I'm not going to check your profile and I won't judge you for your place of birth. But were your parents or grandparents living under a dictatorship?

Because I think it's pretty damn justified to silence or even kill a handful of powerful fat cats for the sake of millions of underdogs.
I'd agree, depending on what you are calling a dictatorship. If you live in the US, and are speaking of your own society, I would be hard pressed to believe you are older than 12. If you are... Maybe you should talk to your grandparents about the hardships you implied they had.

Regardless, your allusions to such situations are 100% irrelevant to the infantile DDOS attacks against GoDaddy.com.
 

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I'm self employed and couldn't work for my call center because of this downtime.

Good to know some random person wanted me to miss out on 3 hours of pay just to test something.
Not to mention the 100+ other reps impacted by this.

I'd be nice if these random people could get caught and appropriately disciplined for their actions.
 

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Spot1990 said:
Killing Hitler was A) Because there was this whole war thing going on and B) Because of genocide. There's a difference between murder and killing.
Isn't all this irrelevant by virtue of the fact that Hitler committed suicide?
 

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ElPatron said:
Nimzabaat said:
So Anonymous censors the internet to fight "censoring the internet"... That's taking the high ground for ya!
"Oh no, they tried to assassinate Hitler because he was murdering people! Those devilish rascals!"

I have no reason to side with Anonymous but this kind of comments makes it hard to see them as the bad guys.
So GoDaddy.com, a business with many working class customers that was supporting protecting people's rights to make money for their labour, is taken down by a (self-described) member of a terrorist organization. You are equating that with stopping the Holocaust, WW2 etc. Well first off, Hitler was the bad guy, GoDaddy is (if only in this situation at least) the good guy. So your comparison is completely off base. Well, if Hitler was Mr (self-described) Anon and GoDaddy's customers are the Jews, THEN I see your point. Sort of. I think.

EDIT: Stop escalating things to "Hitler" level. Nothing in your lifetime was that bad, so stop throwing it around. People just throw it out there because "it's the worst thing they can think of". Then other people have to keep using it because nobody "de-escalates".
 

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NightowlM said:
Clankenbeard said:
GoDaddy was started by Bob Parsons. *SNIP* I like the way he does business. I like him and what he stands for.
Sorry, are you sure you're not Bob Parsons yourself? You know the giant douchebag behind this crap?
*DOS VIDEO SNIP*
Yes. I am pretty sure I'm not Bob Parsons. I see you feel very passionately about him in a negative way. That's fine. You have chosen two videos to post as your response and called him a giant douchebag. This seems a little over the top.

His Superbowl commercials put GoDaddy on the map. While you may not care for them, his first three years of advertising brought in about 5-6% more market share per year of the total number of domain names in the US. The commercials were risque, but they were massively appealing to the majority.

I hadn't seen the second video where he shot an elephant. I wouldn't do it. But I don't know if that makes him a douchebag. I'd say it makes him an opportunist. He isn't dumb. I suspect he saw this as his best opportunity to shoot an elephant. It was "trampling crops" and the villagers all wound up butchering the elephant for meat very quickly. This was probably the best conceivable situation in which a person in the public eye could down an elephant and not be completely attacked by the media. (And it didn't work.) I considered his response about the glut of elephants in the area. It may be true--I honestly don't care enough to do research. But let's face it, why would Bob be in that area with a giant gun unless he was there to shoot an elephant.
 

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ElPatron said:
Andrewtheeviscerator said:
Please, some country, any country, find these idiots and make them rot in jail. I'm sick of tired of them breaking the laws and shitting all over us under the disguise of "we're doing it for you".
Yeah, let's impose a draconian tyranny on the internet and use massive violations of the penal code just to get a few script kiddies in jail.
I fail to see how prosecuting people for what is unquestionably already a crime constitutes "massive violations of the penal code." And it's cute how you used the phrase "script kiddies" that hacker defenders so love to use. As if what they did should be legal just because it's easy. News flash: If a guy enters your house and steals your TV, it's still burglary even if you left your door unlocked.

ElPatron said:
Nimzabaat said:
So Anonymous censors the internet to fight "censoring the internet"... That's taking the high ground for ya!
"Oh no, they tried to assassinate Hitler because he was murdering people! Those devilish rascals!"

I have no reason to side with Anonymous but this kind of comments makes it hard to see them as the bad guys.
No, this would be more like if we had decided to retaliate for the holocaust by nuking all of Germany into oblivion. GoDaddy's customers did nothing to deserve their websites going down, and GoDaddy themselves aren't going anywhere.
 

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Andrewtheeviscerator said:
Please, some country, any country, find these idiots and make them rot in jail. I'm sick of tired of them breaking the laws and shitting all over us under the disguise of "we're doing it for you".
You prefer those who promote internet censorship?