Anonymous Takes Out Go Daddy

[SonOfVoorhees]

Anon have such a childish mentality its unbelievable. Its like me checking house security, trying doors and windows, and if they are open then i can walk in and steal stuff. An its just cos im helping....im not the criminal, its your fault for not securing your window and doors. lol.

There is a lot of freedom on the internet. What they want is the freedom to steal, pirate and take whatever they want for nothing. Thats the freedom they want.

 

[Clankenbeard]

GoDaddy was started by Bob Parsons. (He stepped down as CEO in 2011.) This dude is an ex-marine self-made man with a shit ton of money. He has made a name for himself by finding a niche in any business endeavor that he's tried and exploiting the hell out of it to beat down the competition. He was Magna Cum Laude in accounting after he was wounded in Vietnam. He taught himself computer programming, to later sell his program Intuit for $64 million. He's essentially a hard working badass. I have a few domain names and a hosted web site on GoDaddy and their customer service is better than anybody's. I like the way he does business. I like him and what he stands for. Check him out: http://www.bobparsons.me/index.php

GoDaddy claims: ( http://www.godaddy.com/newscenter/release-view.aspx?news_item_id=410 )
"The service outage was not caused by external influences. It was not a "hack" and it was not a denial of service attack (DDoS). We have determined the service outage was due to a series of internal network events that corrupted router data tables. Once the issues were identified, we took corrective actions to restore services for our customers and GoDaddy.com. We have implemented measures to prevent this from occurring again."

If it was an external attack, Bob is the kind of guy to chase this sort of thing down. Maybe it'll get interesting for Anonymous. Probably not, but it's a fun concept. I'm reminded of the Mad TV sketch where a guy woke up from a 5-year drunk. He was told that he was president and had cured cancer. "How did I cure cancer?" "You took nine of the heads of the world's largest corporations and gave them all cancer. Within 7 months we had 4 different cures." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=va71a7pLvy8

 

[Spitfire]

You may have noticed that Go Daddy, the largest internet domain registrar and web hosting company in the world, isn't currently online. You can thank Anonymous for that, specifically @AnonymousOwn3r [https://twitter.com/AnonymousOwn3r], the "security leader" of the amorphous internet collective, who claimed personal responsibility, independent of Anonymous, for the attack.

So, which one is it? Did Anonymous carry the attack, or the guy on Twitter, claiming to be their "security leader"?

 

[ElPatron]

I like how you equate "a man is entitled to the sweat from his brow" and "throwing people in gas chambers" as the same level of evil.

Did you have to quote the whole thing? Anyway, I did not equate anything to Hitler.

I equated X to X, Y to Y and murder to murder. Last time I checked, civilized countries allow at the very least "equal force" in self-defense situations so I don't think it's an hypocrisy to kill someone to prevent death.

Killing Hitler was A) Because there was this whole war thing going on and B) Because of genocide. There's a difference between murder and killing. Saying "censorship is wrong and if you disagree you don't get a say" is just being a hypocrite.

Just to get this out of the way, killing Hitler would not stop the war or the genocide. Hitler himself had people who could take over in case of his death.

Second, there are reasons to rise against a government or assassinate people. I don't know about you, I'm not going to check your profile and I won't judge you for your place of birth. But were your parents or grandparents living under a dictatorship?

Because I think it's pretty damn justified to silence or even kill a handful of powerful fat cats for the sake of millions of underdogs.

 

[Caverat]

Second, there are reasons to rise against a government or assassinate people. I don't know about you, I'm not going to check your profile and I won't judge you for your place of birth. But were your parents or grandparents living under a dictatorship?

Because I think it's pretty damn justified to silence or even kill a handful of powerful fat cats for the sake of millions of underdogs.

I'd agree, depending on what you are calling a dictatorship. If you live in the US, and are speaking of your own society, I would be hard pressed to believe you are older than 12. If you are... Maybe you should talk to your grandparents about the hardships you implied they had.

Regardless, your allusions to such situations are 100% irrelevant to the infantile DDOS attacks against GoDaddy.com.

 

[babinro]

I'm self employed and couldn't work for my call center because of this downtime.

Good to know some random person wanted me to miss out on 3 hours of pay just to test something.
Not to mention the 100+ other reps impacted by this.

I'd be nice if these random people could get caught and appropriately disciplined for their actions.

 

[Aeshi]

Killing Hitler was A) Because there was this whole war thing going on and B) Because of genocide. There's a difference between murder and killing.

Isn't all this irrelevant by virtue of the fact that Hitler committed suicide?

 

[Moth_Monk]

Meh, GoDaddy is back up now anyway. /yawn

 

[Nimzabaat]

So Anonymous censors the internet to fight "censoring the internet"... That's taking the high ground for ya!

"Oh no, they tried to assassinate Hitler because he was murdering people! Those devilish rascals!"

I have no reason to side with Anonymous but this kind of comments makes it hard to see them as the bad guys.

So GoDaddy.com, a business with many working class customers that was supporting protecting people's rights to make money for their labour, is taken down by a (self-described) member of a terrorist organization. You are equating that with stopping the Holocaust, WW2 etc. Well first off, Hitler was the bad guy, GoDaddy is (if only in this situation at least) the good guy. So your comparison is completely off base. Well, if Hitler was Mr (self-described) Anon and GoDaddy's customers are the Jews, THEN I see your point. Sort of. I think.

EDIT: Stop escalating things to "Hitler" level. Nothing in your lifetime was that bad, so stop throwing it around. People just throw it out there because "it's the worst thing they can think of". Then other people have to keep using it because nobody "de-escalates".

 

[Clankenbeard]

GoDaddy was started by Bob Parsons. *SNIP* I like the way he does business. I like him and what he stands for.

Sorry, are you sure you're not Bob Parsons yourself? You know the giant douchebag behind this crap?
*DOS VIDEO SNIP*

Yes. I am pretty sure I'm not Bob Parsons. I see you feel very passionately about him in a negative way. That's fine. You have chosen two videos to post as your response and called him a giant douchebag. This seems a little over the top.

His Superbowl commercials put GoDaddy on the map. While you may not care for them, his first three years of advertising brought in about 5-6% more market share per year of the total number of domain names in the US. The commercials were risque, but they were massively appealing to the majority.

I hadn't seen the second video where he shot an elephant. I wouldn't do it. But I don't know if that makes him a douchebag. I'd say it makes him an opportunist. He isn't dumb. I suspect he saw this as his best opportunity to shoot an elephant. It was "trampling crops" and the villagers all wound up butchering the elephant for meat very quickly. This was probably the best conceivable situation in which a person in the public eye could down an elephant and not be completely attacked by the media. (And it didn't work.) I considered his response about the glut of elephants in the area. It may be true--I honestly don't care enough to do research. But let's face it, why would Bob be in that area with a giant gun unless he was there to shoot an elephant.

 

[Steve the Pocket]

Please, some country, any country, find these idiots and make them rot in jail. I'm sick of tired of them breaking the laws and shitting all over us under the disguise of "we're doing it for you".

Yeah, let's impose a draconian tyranny on the internet and use massive violations of the penal code just to get a few script kiddies in jail.

I fail to see how prosecuting people for what is unquestionably already a crime constitutes "massive violations of the penal code." And it's cute how you used the phrase "script kiddies" that hacker defenders so love to use. As if what they did should be legal just because it's easy. News flash: If a guy enters your house and steals your TV, it's still burglary even if you left your door unlocked.

So Anonymous censors the internet to fight "censoring the internet"... That's taking the high ground for ya!

"Oh no, they tried to assassinate Hitler because he was murdering people! Those devilish rascals!"

I have no reason to side with Anonymous but this kind of comments makes it hard to see them as the bad guys.

No, this would be more like if we had decided to retaliate for the holocaust by nuking all of Germany into oblivion. GoDaddy's customers did nothing to deserve their websites going down, and GoDaddy themselves aren't going anywhere.

 

[Epona]

Please, some country, any country, find these idiots and make them rot in jail. I'm sick of tired of them breaking the laws and shitting all over us under the disguise of "we're doing it for you".

You prefer those who promote internet censorship?

 

[Andrewtheeviscerator]

Please, some country, any country, find these idiots and make them rot in jail. I'm sick of tired of them breaking the laws and shitting all over us under the disguise of "we're doing it for you".

You prefer those who promote internet censorship?

No I would rather people fight internet censorship by legal means, instead all they're doing is justifying these laws to regulate the internet. I've added my signatures to petitions against things like Sopa and Pipa because those people went about it the right away, legislatively. I'm not going to promote a bunch of privileged kids who watched V for Vendetta once and now think they have to go around "protecting" people.

 

[chadachada123]

I...really don't see this as a big issue at all.

Yes, there are some innocent casualties, but most of the damage is being done to people that deserve it.

Do I support breaking the law? No. Did I smile when I read this story? Yes.

There are bigger fish to fry.

 

[The Towel Boy]

I personally enjoy some things that Anonymous does, like this.

 

[Epona]

Please, some country, any country, find these idiots and make them rot in jail. I'm sick of tired of them breaking the laws and shitting all over us under the disguise of "we're doing it for you".

You prefer those who promote internet censorship?

No I would rather people fight internet censorship by legal means, instead all they're doing is justifying these laws to regulate the internet. I've added my signatures to petitions against things like Sopa and Pipa because those people went about it the right away, legislatively. I'm not going to promote a bunch of privileged kids who watched V for Vendetta once and now think they have to go around "protecting" people.

That's ok, people doing more than signing a few petitions probably don't think your methods are useful either.

Sorry man, when you are fighting against those who can bribe lawmakers signing petitions may not always be enough.

 

[chadachada123]

Please, some country, any country, find these idiots and make them rot in jail. I'm sick of tired of them breaking the laws and shitting all over us under the disguise of "we're doing it for you".

You prefer those who promote internet censorship?

No I would rather people fight internet censorship by legal means, instead all they're doing is justifying these laws to regulate the internet. I've added my signatures to petitions against things like Sopa and Pipa because those people went about it the right away, legislatively. I'm not going to promote a bunch of privileged kids who watched V for Vendetta once and now think they have to go around "protecting" people.

This is only because media sites are giving Anonymous undeserved atteniton.

Do you think that every black man and woman during the civil rights era obeyed the law and tried to use the legal venues for law-changing? Hell no. There were plenty(?) of black men/women that joined extremist anti-white groups and broke the law to threaten or harm white people.

I don't want to at all imply that their numbers were equal to the law-abiding men, but they existed in just as large of a number at least as Anonymous does. While plenty of great men like Martin Luther King Jr existed, so too did plenty of men like Malcolm X exist.

It just so happens that in this case, the law-breakers are getting more attention than the law-abiders.

 

[dfphetteplace]

I'm happy anytime some terrible company gets screwed. Good for Anon.

 

[ElPatron]

I'd agree, depending on what you are calling a dictatorship. If you live in the US, and are speaking of your own society, I would be hard pressed to believe you are older than 12. If you are... Maybe you should talk to your grandparents about the hardships you implied they had.

I am not American.

This is not about "hardships". It's about getting kidnapped to some African prison-island and beaten by the secret police if you were found listening to Russian music. Or having 5 friends at home at 1AM. It's about crime statistics being tampered with to make the country look safer. It's about political opponents being ambushed by thugs with submachine-guns and make it look like it was the Commies who did it.

This is not about quality of life, it's about freedom that our military fought for.

Regardless, your allusions to such situations are 100% irrelevant to the infantile DDOS attacks against GoDaddy.com.

Okay. But I wasn't talking explicitly about that either.

I fail to see how prosecuting people for what is unquestionably already a crime constitutes "massive violations of the penal code."

Unless the meaning of "rotting in jail" now means 6 months in jail/300 hours of community service, I think that a life sentence for running Low Orbit Ion Cannon does not follow the penal code.

And it's cute how you used the phrase "script kiddies" that hacker defenders so love to use. As if what they did should be legal just because it's easy. News flash: If a guy enters your house and steals your TV, it's still burglary even if you left your door unlocked.

>implying inplications^99

"Script kiddie" isn't an apologist term. It's an insult. And cute analogy, but it was wrong.

I never said hacking should be legal. Guess what, conspiring against tyrannical governments is illegal too.

No, this would be more like if we had decided to retaliate for the holocaust by nuking all of Germany into oblivion. GoDaddy's customers did nothing to deserve their websites going down, and GoDaddy themselves aren't going anywhere.

Wop, Germans weren't responsible for WWII but they had 13 year old boys defending the last few blocks controlled by the Reich. Iraqui citizens aren't at fault for having insurgents among them. Collateral damage.

member of a terrorist organization.

>anonymous
>terrorists

That's laughable. Anyway, one man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist. I bet that if the US gained independence in the 21st century the British would call them terrorists. Bashar Al-Assad's government (and a few months ago, the Russian government too) considered the rebels "terrorists".

Hitler was the bad guy

"And the Hadjis hate the American way of life and want to take our freedomz!" World isn't black nor white.

I just mentioned Hitler because to my knowledge he survived at least two assassination attempts. I figured that if I just got Godwin's Law out of the way it would be win-win.

I didn't compare GoDaddy to Hitler, I just used him to explain that sometimes what looks like an hypocrisy is not.

 

[Andrewtheeviscerator]

Please, some country, any country, find these idiots and make them rot in jail. I'm sick of tired of them breaking the laws and shitting all over us under the disguise of "we're doing it for you".

You prefer those who promote internet censorship?

No I would rather people fight internet censorship by legal means, instead all they're doing is justifying these laws to regulate the internet. I've added my signatures to petitions against things like Sopa and Pipa because those people went about it the right away, legislatively. I'm not going to promote a bunch of privileged kids who watched V for Vendetta once and now think they have to go around "protecting" people.

That's ok, people doing more than signing a few petitions probably don't think your methods are useful either.

Sorry man, when you are fighting against those who can bribe lawmakers signing petitions may not always be enough.

So your saying that we should be just as bad as them, if so then how can we say we're any better. We can't take the high ground and tell people how wrong they are because they can say that we're just as bad, and in anonymous' case they are just as bad as the people who proposed SOPA.

Everyone has the right to free speech even the ones we disagree with. I don't agree with the people who created SOPA but I believe they have the right to say their opinions and we should argue against them instead of just taking away their rights.