unoleian said:
I guess somebody'getting a little uppity about being repeatedly corrected. Apologies for my heinous efficient time-management. Keeps attention spans short.
The Elder Scrolls is indeed a registered trademark. Says so right on the box...
I was corrected, and made my statement on that corrections few posts after that, I am not uppity about being corrected, i am being uppity because people dont read a few more posts to see the rebuttal.
And you are wrong about your "correction". They do not own (C) on "The Elder Scrolls" They own it on the FULL title name. Look at your Oblivion Case, it says "The Edler Scrolls IV: Oblivion (C).
NOW, the TM's apply to the "Style" In which the words are formed. Lets take a look shall we:
http://tess2.uspto.gov
(Hit Basic Search, Type in The Elder Scrolls, and hit the second TM.) For some reason they dont allow you to link directly to the TM.
This is one of their Trade marks(For Oblivion). Notice how it is under the catagory of "Mark Drawing Code" Stating that the own TM's on The Elder Scrolls (or any mention there of) Under the Font or Style in which you see it under. The way in which the words in the logo for Bethesda and Zenimax are also TM'd, this applies to the style of the words and logos. This is why Zenimax and Bethesda also have (C) on their respective names as well.
The Do not own a TM under JUST The Elder Scroll. But on how the words are presented, not under the Standard Characters. (which would be just the words themselves)
Now i could go out, and make a Book Store called The Elder Scrolls, as long as it looks nothing like the Style they use. And I wouldnt be able to have it as a fantasy themed store. But if i just bought a Barnes and Nobles and renamed it, there would be no problems.
This is an issue of the same genre, under the same catagory of games and media, this is where Majong and Notch are in the wrong. They want a STANDARD Tm (i am assuming) of the name Scrolls, this would screw Zenimax, and they HAVE to fight it.