Another Incident in Portland
- Thread starter Specter Von Baren
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The homicide rate in Portland is below average for the country and you live in the Midwest! Rate’s going up everywhere due to the recession anyway! Portland’s great, actually. Then again over the course of my life I’ve spent much more time in the parts of Oregon with much higher homicide rates than Portland, so I may just be happy to live outside of the depressing parts of Oregon.
I could say that some people investigate more thoroughly on 4chan.
But the vast majority just make shit up.
So, I'd say sorta on your comment with a very big asterisk.
Like, I'm no longer on any board looking for any form of truth. That's not 4chans purpose or the way it's being used. Truth and 4chan generally don't go together. BUT there are some people who are fantastic
Random people do bad thing.
Attack Random person who is vaguely associated with them.
That really doesn't sound like a great defence there: "Your honour some people who we just assume he knows did something bad to us earlier in the night so this was self defence to attack him"
I await more info before I'll judge this it could well have been self defence.
What I will comment on is the rather awful look of the videos of people celebrating the persons death because he has different politics.
Not saying "It was self defence" but actively celebrating an opponent being killed and seeing it as a good thing. If we see them holding the shooter up as some great hero then we know things are likely to get worse.
I'm hearing (Dunno how true) the suspect was previously picked up in connection to prior rioting in Portland but ha charges against him dropped with no explanation.
In fairness so were AntiFA supporting twitter accounts.
I mean 4chan have been outright wrong less times than an MSM sites has blamed Same Hyde for a Mass shooting so far.
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Who is celebrating this guys death on the escapist ? I haven't seen anyone in here doing so. I just stated the events that occurred that day, and I don't think they are even related to one another. The guy using bear mace on people still didn't need to die here. They shouldn't have had guns down there to begin with.
The people shooting paintball guns and other projectiles from trucks was a separate issue of violence that had occurred that day and they need to really find those responsible as well and arrest them.
There’s a few vids but that’s largely crowd mentality after the fact. I don’t take it overly seriously compared to, I dunno, the fucking forty pages we spent arguing about whether murder’s cool and how national media isn’t much above that garbage argument itself. And if you wanna clear example of where the Alt-Right’s already at...
that was an organizer of the event a week ago, Saturday was much more heavily armed. There’s probably been a number of legitimate scenarios where shooting a RW guy would’ve easily counted as self defense with all the weapon brandishing, but luckily none of them have shot someone yet.
It's fortunate then that there are other places to get information from than cable news and troll boards.
No-one on the Escapist was but there are videos out there of people cheering about his death.
It's scene like this that suggest a far larger problem brewing
Yeah see, I find that label honestly trite and idiotic. To me MSM is more like bought news or biased news. Fake implies they're merely making stuff up when most of the time they're just interpreting things in a way off-kilter way to mislead or control people.
It’s an excellent take though I do feel it’s important to mention the incidents of violence by PP and those connected to it more directly. Cider Riot attack, MAX stabbing, and the Proud Boys randomly assaulting people in broad daylight and getting tipped off by the cops before any investigations occur. PP gets to directly communicate and organize with police despite everything on their record. It kinda sucks.
And yet it's funny how many people who say that of the MSM seem happy to take their news from sources that are objectively worse.
The people who say that are just saying it because Trump says it and weren't saying it before. It's more like a sign of belonging to a group than an earnestly held belief like the one I was expressing.
This is the same thing as when you watch a video and then in the comments people are using the same exact language to express the same idea instead of putting it in their own words and making it fit their individual view some.
Some people are just super easy to influence and some are super impressionable so they will just spout other's words as thought they're their own with no self-awareness.
If you think it is this small group of people making asshats of themselves is the far larger problem brewing, you would have had to ignore the entire past decade because the right wing terror attacks have been extreme.
THIS IS the far larger problem brewing:
‘Escalating’ far-right violence in U.S. to pose greatest terrorist threat: experts - National | Globalnews.ca
The report comes amid a wave of new terror schemes alleged to have been perpetrated by white supremacists and anti-government groups across the United States.
globalnews.ca
Violence by far right is among US’s most dangerous terrorist threats, study finds
Center for Strategic and International Studies analysis of domestic terrorist incidents found majority have come from far right
www.theguardian.com
Right Wing Extremist Attacks in the West Surge by 320%
The last five years has seen an increase in right wing extremist attacks in western countries, according to the Global Terrorism Index.
visionofhumanity.org
Hidden in Plain Sight: Racism, White Supremacy, and Far-Right Militancy in Law Enforcement
The government’s response to known connections of law enforcement officers to violent racist and militant groups has been strikingly insufficient.
ALL of US intelligence agencies have been telling us this is the far larger problem brewing. The FBI warned us that right wing terrorists have infiltrated the US military, judicial system, police and all levels of government and have formed terror cell militias throughout the country and yet somehow a small group of people chanting about a dead Trump supporter who bear maced people is the worrying problem..
Of course that is s shitty thing to do, but perspective is needed here.
They're more dangerous because they're often lone gunman attacks and that's only so far because in 2020 we're at what 31 people killed by the rioters so far so we might be about to see that number flip the other way as things keep going.If you think it is this small group of people making asshats of themselves is the far larger problem brewing, you would have had to ignore the entire past decade because the right wing terror attacks have been extreme.
THIS IS the far larger problem brewing:
‘Escalating’ far-right violence in U.S. to pose greatest terrorist threat: experts - National | Globalnews.ca
The report comes amid a wave of new terror schemes alleged to have been perpetrated by white supremacists and anti-government groups across the United States.Violence by far right is among US’s most dangerous terrorist threats, study finds
Center for Strategic and International Studies analysis of domestic terrorist incidents found majority have come from far rightRight Wing Extremist Attacks in the West Surge by 320%
The last five years has seen an increase in right wing extremist attacks in western countries, according to the Global Terrorism Index.Hidden in Plain Sight: Racism, White Supremacy, and Far-Right Militancy in Law Enforcement
The government’s response to known connections of law enforcement officers to violent racist and militant groups has been strikingly insufficient.www.brennancenter.org
ALL of US intelligence agencies have been telling us this is the far larger problem brewing. The FBI warned us that right wing terrorists have infiltrated the US military, judicial system, police and all levels of government and have formed terror cell militias throughout the country and yet somehow a small group of people chanting about a dead Trump supporter who bear maced people is the worrying problem..
Of course that is s shitty thing to do, but perspective is needed here.
So... you're placing all the illegal stuff outside of the protest in the same category as the protesters?
I must have mixed the two of them up! I'm not sure if I can only chalk it up to RoE. RoE change according to the situation and are handed down to you by officers. I don't know how you'd view this as an independent armed person in civilian life. This is why I am not sure whether it's more accurate to use TD or RoE.
According to US intelligence, it is right wing extremists that are killing far more people and are far more dangerous THAN ANY OTHER GROUP. Are you trying to tell me that you have information they don't?