Anti-DRM Group Aims Bricks At Nintendo

[Canadamus Prime]

Wow a group who is against DRM isn't hacking a site or bringing a service down. I can respect these guys way more then any other "we want freedom with our hardware" group.

Well that's true. I may not agree with their cause, nor do I understand what they hope to achieve by mailing cardboard bricks to Nintendo, but I can at least respect them for making a legal protest.
Why do they need to be able to mod their console anyway??? If you wanna play custom software, that's what a PC is for. No restrictions there.

Well I modded my systems so I can store all the games I bought on one card so I can go to college with just my DS and enjoy all the DS games I own without carrying all the carts (same goes with my psp). After you hit the 40 game mark it kinda gets on ones nerves to manage so many games (and after I had some stolen I'm am a little more paranoid).

Well my answer to that is don't take all 40+ games with you to college. Just take your top 5 or top 10.

I see lots of you are very quick to condemn these company's attempts to fight piracy, but don't offer any alternative solutions. I find that rather counter-productive, esp. since you seem equally as quick to condemn piracy.

 

[Arehexes]

Wow a group who is against DRM isn't hacking a site or bringing a service down. I can respect these guys way more then any other "we want freedom with our hardware" group.

Well that's true. I may not agree with their cause, nor do I understand what they hope to achieve by mailing cardboard bricks to Nintendo, but I can at least respect them for making a legal protest.
Why do they need to be able to mod their console anyway??? If you wanna play custom software, that's what a PC is for. No restrictions there.

Well I modded my systems so I can store all the games I bought on one card so I can go to college with just my DS and enjoy all the DS games I own without carrying all the carts (same goes with my psp). After you hit the 40 game mark it kinda gets on ones nerves to manage so many games (and after I had some stolen I'm am a little more paranoid).

Well my answer to that is don't take all 40+ games with you to college. Just take your top 5 or top 10.

I see lots of you are very quick to condemn these company's attempts to fight piracy, but don't offer any alternative solutions. I find that rather counter-productive, esp. since you seem equally as quick to condemn piracy.

A lot of people say don't take so many, but I can't sit and play 5 games (I bounce around a lot between games quickly it's not funny), it's also based on my mood (cause I don't want to always play Etrian Odyssey all day). And don't confuse the fact I own a flash cart or mod systems as "I condemn piracy", seeing how I go out of my way to find the physical copies of games I own if I want it besides pirating it (I some how ended up with 3 copies of Izuna Legend of the Unemployed Ninja on the DS...). I mean heck I can't even play new psp games anymore without having to rip the UMD myself now but I will still buy them (I was sadden when I couldn't play Tactic Ogre on my psp at all without patching the iso of it). But still just owning such a means doesn't mean you condemn it. What I don't condemn is what both sides do, most pirates fill it's free so why not download it (well if you like it you should buy it to support the company who made it), and companies need to stop acting like everyone is a pirate (or those who could pirate does so automatically).

And my idea was to have a system in place where you have a cart with storage which would let you make a copy of your game but linked to your system with a ID number on the system itself (use a algorithm to generate the ID number based on the hardware's ID number). But people act like it's a way just to steal (it is but the different is instead of posting it online you can't share it). Or format the microSD card in a way where a computer can not boot it without it forcing to reformat it (some home brew on the wii does this, where you have you have to format your hard drive but if you do it won't be readable on a computer without formatting it and erasing all the data).

 

[weirdee]

Wait, I think somebody mixed up the difference between goods and services here...

The 3DS is a good that you buy from the store....you're not borrowing it or renting it, you own the stupid thing. And unlike a public location like a library or restaurant, whatever you're doing with it doesn't really concern other people unless you're programming it to fire deadly lasers or something.

It would be like hewlett packard disabling all of your printers because you refused to use their brand of ink cartridges in them.

Just take any product that you own, and consider a harmless activity that you could do with it, which isn't a use that the company wouldn't have originally considered that you would do, and then think of allowing them to make it worthless just because they find your activities suspicious, or disapprove of you using it in that way, no matter what the circumstance was.

Hell, they could probably brick the 3DS if you used an action replay on it, a time honored tradition of those who enjoy going too far with their games to have any concern about their save files enabled by a product widely sold in stores such as gamestop for years without any kind of disapproval from nintendo at all. There goes AR's source of income!

 

[BrunDeign]

Incidentally, my Web host donates to this organization, I think.

And Nintendo... is... THE LAW.

See, I don't know if you were joking or not, but that attitude, and the fact that so many people seem to genuinely believe it ? that corporations have, or should have, the power to dictate power on a level that should be reserved for governments ? bothers me a lot more than what those corporations have been doing with that power... at least, so far.

Has no one here ever seen the Sylvester Stallone Judge Dredd movie? This response seems to tell me that you haven't at least.

1. What I meant is that nintendo has the power to turn your 3ds into a brick which is equal to an xbox 360 getting a rrod (3ds brick = xbox 360 rrod). In this instance nintendo HAS THE POWER TO TURN YOUR 3DS into a brick so it's like microsoft having the ability to give your xbox 360 a RROD (which they doesn't). Does that seems right to you, a company having the ability TO BREAK a stuff that you have paid for?

2. No I've paid for the electronic device, you can discontinue support to my device, ban me, or void my warranty but it does not mean that they can BREAK my device.
I have a dell laptop (electronic device) which graphic card I have replace, to dell I have done something illegal thus they have voided my warranty but they still cannot take away or BREAK my laptop.
Or another metaphor, if you have an iPhone (electronic device) and you decide to jailbreak it (illegal) then basically apple can push an update that would brick your iphone BUT you have a choice not to update your phone thus in the end apple has STOPPED SUPPORT for you device (no further updates) but on the 3ds nintendo doesn't stop support for your device, they literally BREAKS your device. Not voiding your warranty, banning me from online functions, or not supporting my device but BREAKING IT to the point it has lost it's value.

3. I don't know what you mean about that

1. Well in both instances as long as you feel that the circumstances allow you to get a new piece of hardware and the companies guidelines allow it, you can turn them both in. For the 360 it's warranty. For the 3DS it's if you feel, and can prove, that you're 3DS was unfairly "bricked." Nintendo wouldn't have this option if they knew they couldn't back it up legally so quite frankly I'm not sure why we're having this argument. Also when you put down "doesn't" instead of "don't" it made me chuckle. Just saying.

2. I stand behind my opinion that it's the price you pay for doing something blatantly illegal - and not jailbreaking and the switching of graphics cards because for the former I think they already judged it as legal and for the latter that's apples and oranges in comparison to the 3DS - on your electronic device. If you do something to your 3DS that would actively take money from Nintendo, like the R4 stuff (I'm not too keen on what they can do), you are effectively stealing money from Nintendo and should have your 3DS bricked.

3. Sylvester Stallone's Judge Dredd. Look up "I AM THE LAW" on Youtube.