I knew the name Dave Grossman sounded famiiler, but I coundn't quite place it.Andy Chalk said:The name Dave Grossman may not be as instantly recognizable as, say, Jack Thompson or Michael Atkinson, but for those who follow this sort of thing the retired Lieutenant Colonel is a well-known figure...
The amusing thing is that these vicious killers that have been playing Grand Theft Auto since they were six will already think Dave Grossman is a massive tool, even if they've never heard of the other Dave Grossman.Dave Grossman said:"There is a generation of vicious, vicious killers out there," he said. "The videogames are their trainers. They've been playing Grand Theft Auto every spare moment since they were six years old."
I am well aware of Swift's 'Modest Proposal', and the difference here is that he spent a great deal of time working on that, while you only spent a few minutes at most.deathbydeath said:Actually, it was satire. I was poking holes in his views by taking them a step further to their logical conclusion, which is irrational. Any humor to be gained from that was from you and you alone. See Jonathan Swift's "A Modest Proposal" for something similar.TheDoctor455 said:Don't care if you're joking or not. Not funny.
And not okay to say.
Genocide, or even proposed genocide is not to be taken lightly.
And right there, you have given me all the reason to never listen to you again.Grossman said:"There is a generation of vicious, vicious killers out there," he said. "The videogames are their trainers. They've been playing Grand Theft Auto every spare moment since they were six years old."
Yes, and then the police, armed with machine guns mow them down as they walk out the exits so we make sure that we get the killer. There are no innocents in the videogame age, every kid who has ever picked up a controller is a serial killer waiting to happen.deathbydeath said:"We must prepare for violence like firefighters prepare for fires..."
Wait, is he suggesting that when someone gets shot in a school, a bell rings and all the students shuffle out in an organized manner?
Bullshit. Guy was a Lt. Colonel. He did not do any damn work he sent the enlisted to go do the real killing. He just told other people to go do work and get killed.DVS BSTrD said:As opposed to people like you who make their CAREERS out of being vicious killers."There is a generation of vicious, vicious killers out there," he said. "The videogames are their trainers. They've been playing Grand Theft Auto every spare moment since they were six years old."
I think you might be confusing "deference" with "academic credentials". Just because he is a professor in psychology, doesn't mean any serious psychologist will respect him. As a matter of fact, Grossman is probably more useful to the field of psychology as a subject, rather than as a researcher.anonymity88 said:When I read comments like this and realise that these people are actually well respected and treated with deference by some people I get very scared.
Indeed, why is it no-one blames news sources like Fox News and The Daily Mail, when they quite literally exist to increase hatred and misunderstanding amongst citizens?devotedsniper said:Oh look another one blaming games, yet films and books get no such blame or better yet how about we focus on the real problems?
I have to say, neither of you are right. Killology is a stupid word in any situation, because it's too hard to pronounce a short word of 4 syllables in which 3 of those syllables have an 'l' sound - phonetically speaking it's a crime against language. And that's why it has even less chance as an album name, because it would have to go through rigorous market testing first. However, should you ditch one of the syllables and just make it "Killogy", well... then that's workable.Sutter Cane said: