Anti-Gaming Television Episode Earns Official Complaint

[Trekkie]

Holy crap, gamers are actually responding intelligently :O

btw is "The Wright Stuff" the equivalent of FOX in the land of fish and chips?

no but The Daily Mail (the news paper that this so called journalist is from) is basically British fox news.

 

[The Wykydtron]

So they're ignoring all the things that made these people turn to gangs and all that? Alright then.

Holy crap, gamers are actually responding intelligently :O

btw is "The Wright Stuff" the equivalent of FOX in the land of fish and chips?

Not quite. Its a day time chat show for naive, moral guardian-esque housewives on an incredibly unpopular TV channel.

Our equivalent of FOX is probably the Daily Mail (tabloid paper), which the stupid woman in the article writes for.

Wright himself is just a smug twat.

I thought "The Sun" was your version of FOX?

Nah The Sun is just a professional troll, the majority of people in the UK quickly learn that whatever The Sun says is complete bullshit

Now the Daily Mail on the other hand...

Just imagine a paper that prints "Bloody Foreigners!" every day and you have the Daily Mail

Some people actually believe it though :/

OT: I don't have time to post Edgeworth everytime someone blames Video Games for violence/raep/death of a hamster

Though i like the way she basically says "evidence?! who needs evidence?!"

Spoiler

Without evidence you have no case... Mr Wright XD

 

[Exocet]

One day,just one day,I would like the parents of the deceased to come forward and just say:"What the fuck it wrong with you?Our child was gunned down and you're going around using our lose to push your agenda."
Preferably followed by insulting gestures and more hurtful words,but that's asking a bit much.

 

[The Long Road]

The best thing to do here is to ignore it. Whether or not they can convince people that games cause violence is irrelevant. Eventually, gaming will overrun them with economics and lawyers.

Games are a billion-dollar industry, and that number is only going to climb, especially with economies worldwide ready to recover from recession. It provides jobs to thousands of people and gets money moving in the market. If talking heads really become a problem, the big publishers will release their lawyers into the world and start charging people with various slander-related crimes. The actual grounds for the case may not be enough to win, but the threat itself could go a long way to getting networks to think twice about financing and clearing anti-gaming episodes.

Though another massive industry, tobacco, has fallen to media criticism, gaming doesn't have any definitive data about its ability to do harm. Every study that says that games turn little innocent children into murderous gangbangers is countered by one that says there is either no effect or a beneficial effect on intelligence, learning ability, coordination, dexterity, etc.

So basically, just wait. This may convince some people, but it won't convince the people who matter. Eventually, the anti-game lobby will be drowned by publisher counter-arguments or simply fade into obscurity.

 

[FightThePower]

Oh yeah, and this annoyed me too:

"We don't really need reports to tell us [that violent video games cause anti social behavior] do we?" she asked. "Common sense tells you if you expose a child to violent imagery and a lot of it for many hours a day for many years on end, it's going to have an effect."

Psychology is not common sense. A lot of things you'd think would be the case due to 'common sense' are not true - sometimes they're the complete opposite. Really just shows the complete lack of knowledge of any of the people presenting this show.

 

[Cipher1]

There on Channel 5 at half 11 in the morning what more proof do you need that there nobodies.

 

[SinisterGehe]

Seeing as I've started playing M-rated games at 9, read some violent novels along the way and watched violent movies, the fact that I haven't turned into a gun-toting psychopath should be good enough evidence against your theory, Ms. Diamond.

I been playing K-18 games and movies since I was 4.
I am afraid of guns and heavy machinery, so much that army duty was not recommended for me, I didn't pass the health check either due to my neurological condition but anyway.

None of the people I know that have played violent videogames since they were kids are violent maniacs. I am very much sure that no one has, the people who are violent have other issues that should be dealt with instead of banning video games. Minors shouldn't be playing K-18 Games to begin with so, who do we blame the issues of minors to something that shouldn't be factoring their lives anyway.
If parents let their kids play these games, it is not the fault of the industry it is fault of the parents. It is like blaming car industry because someone drove on someone and he died because of it.

 

[Prof. Monkeypox]

Was there even any clue that the killers were at all interested in videogames? You know, besides the fact that pretty much everyone born in the last 20 years is interested in videogames.

Or, if they were hardcore gamers, how do we know they even liked Modern Warfare- they could have liked flight sims for how relevant this story was to anything related to the facts.

 

[sunburst]

I expect trashy chat shows to blame crime on gaming and use bullshit language like common sense in lieu of evidence to support their claims. I hardly even notice that crap anymore. But this is going too far. This wasn't a couple nutters shooting up their school without apparent motives. By using an obvious act of gang violence to launch another tirade against violent games, they're cheapening the real world issues at play here. The Wright Stuff is actively impeding public understanding of the causes of gang crimes. And there can be no solutions without understanding. With gang culture being such a giant problem in so many places, including Hackney, garbage like this leaves me so disappointed in humanity.

 

[Prof. Monkeypox]

Though i like the way she basically says "evidence?! who needs evidence?!"

We don't need no stinking evidence.

 

[dalek sec]

Well glad to hear we're fighting back in a proper way, just not spamming these people with porn and shock images. The only thing we can really do is just wait for this generation to pass on and hopefully some of the ignorance will go with them but I doubt it.

 

[Blood Countess]

this is the same effect as after Columbine they blames Doom and Manson's music and ignored the fact the shooters were crazy and obsessed with Hitler but they prefer to attack easy scapegoats

Yeah the comment about not needed reports show they had nothing and just like fox news playing on people's stupidity, ignorance and fears and nothing more

 

[kane.malakos]

Ah yes, the old "we all know it's true anyway, so anything that disagrees is biased" argument. That's some GREAT science right there...

 

[Canid117]

Holy crap, gamers are actually responding intelligently :O

btw is "The Wright Stuff" the equivalent of FOX in the land of fish and chips?

Nah, it's a nothing show. I'm not just dissing it for hurting my beloved gaming either, it is of literally no cultural or political interest. They could say whatever they wanted and no one would hear it.

Unfortunately a lot of stay at home mums and middle aged people do watch it and hang on its every word. Thankfully it's not entirely right wing garbage like fox news.

You guys have your newspapers for that.


Zing!! Amiright?

 

[RA92]

That is a new low.

This, honestly. It's one thing to spew bullshit, and another to cash in on a tragedy by sensationalizing it by coupling it with bullshit.

 

[emeraldrafael]

Whoa. This definitely calls for a round of applause. Congrats to those speaking for gamers and their elegant and mature response. And their pointing out that footage of an M rated game was shown when children can be watching. I'm curious how the Wright Stuff will respond.

Its very sad the girl died in a gang shooting. Those are never fun, for anybody. Though personally (Just living in the US) I've seen more violence on the news then I have in games, so I would go after news first.

Also:

"We don't really need reports to tell us [that violent video games cause anti social behavior] do we?" she asked. "Common sense tells you if you expose a child to violent imagery and a lot of it for many hours a day for many years on end, it's going to have an effect."

Because "common sense" is an acceptable substitute for formal research. Good to know.

Awesome.

 

[beema]

The kids were in a gang trying to shoot another gang... what the hell does that have to do with video games? That kind of shit has been happening forever, with or without games.

Glad they brought up the hypocrisy in airing a segment of said violent game on the air when kids could watch it. Idiots.

 

[D33dl3]

I find it annoying that the media in general find this to be acceptable. ..... any chance we can tell Anonymous that these fkrs were having a go at them

so glad there was no violence b4 video games.