Apple Brainwashes Gay Cure App from iTunes

[GreigKM]

People need to realize that freedom of speech only extends to anything not "obscene" or infringing on the rights of others. You can't just spew bigotry and expect to be protected. Good on Apple for removing this.

 

[Ca3zar416]

People who made this application in the first place are jerks. That's pretty much what I get out of it.

 

[Braedan]

If this app was removed, I expect shortly to see all apps involving anything gay or lesbian be removed as well. Equality is the name of the game.

You should be expecting the removal of all apps trying CURE religion.
They didn't remove an app because it's religious, they removed it because it's hateful.

People need to realize that freedom of speech only extends to anything not "obscene" or infringing on the rights of others. You can't just spew bigotry and expect to be protected. Good on Apple for removing this.

and while I agree with you, freedom of speech is not a valid argument in this situation as Apple is NOT the government.

 

[Tenky]

If this app was removed, I expect shortly to see all apps involving anything gay or lesbian be removed as well. Equality is the name of the game.

This app promotes hate or intolerance towards gays, as in saying it's something you can be cured of. Those pro-gay apps do not promote any sort of hate nor to they attack those fundamentalist 16th century school of though churches.

That's what's wrong with it... not what the owners or creators think! Free speech FTW.

 

[Megacherv]

I'm expecting a parody now showcasing the app 'Straight Cure'

Get it made people!

 

[Eri]

If this app was removed, I expect shortly to see all apps involving anything gay or lesbian be removed as well. Equality is the name of the game.

You should be expecting the removal of all apps trying CURE religion.
They didn't remove an app because it's religious, they removed it because it's hateful.

I'd hardly call an app trying to cure "the gay" hateful. If they aren't trying to force it on anyone, I see no problem. Would you call an app saying how great it is to be gay and everyone should try it "hateful"?

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How does someone believing gay can be cured, promote hate? I'm pretty sure it doesn't. You can believe Stalin was right and keep it to yourself, and it's not spreading hate just because you believe it.

 

[Joepow]

If someone posted an app that claims you can cure the disease of being black it would be national news

Exactly what I was about to post. Well said, sir.

 

[Simalacrum]

Good for Apple! Gay Cure my arse, science even has a reason for homosexuality these days, its perfectly natural!

 

[peter337]

I don't think there's anything wrong with this app. If you don't like it, don't use it. I'm not saying I agree with it. In fact, I disagree with it. But people should have the right to believe what they want.

Like all Jewish people should be exterminated? Like all Muslim's are terrorists? Like all black people should be slaves?

Belief an be an extremely powerful thing, so no, I don't think ignorant beliefs should be tolerated.

I hear that quite a bit now, but no one seems able to define an "ignorant belief" to me. Why is it that, for example, your view is fine, but another view is "ignorant" and thus not tolerated?

An ignorant belief would be one wherein you hold a belief against the evidence or with no evidence, for example, all Muslims are terrorists, or it's wrong to be gay, respectively.

 

[Elamdri]

Although removing something simply because it might offend people is just silly >.> Grow up guys

No it's not, it's the most unsilly thing in the world. Apple exists to make money, if people aren't buying Apple products because they're offended by Apple policies, then Apple is not making money.

 

[Croaker42]

Eh, apples store, apple can choose what to host.

Although removing something simply because it might offend people is just silly >.> Grow up guys

/This
Businesses need to stop bending over backward for overreaction but hurt sentiment.
Do I agree with the people that developed the App? No
But if we look at it in a non religious fashion....
Perhaps their are people who genuinely don't want to be gay but were "born" that way. Don't they deserve a chance?

 

[TheYellowCellPhone]

When 140,000 people say they want to see the removal of your app that's been up for around a month...

...Eh, you've got a problem.

 

[Legion]

I don't think there's anything wrong with this app. If you don't like it, don't use it. I'm not saying I agree with it. In fact, I disagree with it. But people should have the right to believe what they want.

Like all Jewish people should be exterminated? Like all Muslim's are terrorists? Like all black people should be slaves?

Belief an be an extremely powerful thing, so no, I don't think ignorant beliefs should be tolerated.

I hear that quite a bit now, but no one seems able to define an "ignorant belief" to me. Why is it that, for example, your view is fine, but another view is "ignorant" and thus not tolerated?

Simple.

My views are not saying someone should suffer agony for eternity for daring to love someone with the same chromosomes. My views do not spout hate on others simply for being different from me, even when they aren't hurting someone.

If I claimed black people were a "disease" (not that I'd so much as consider it) I'd receive death threats. Homosexuality is pretty much the only area left in the world where it is accepted to be intolerant of it. Despite the fact that it hasn't actually caused any harm to anyone.

If this app was removed, I expect shortly to see all apps involving anything gay or lesbian be removed as well. Equality is the name of the game.

If those apps say that being straight is wrong, then yes.

 

[peter337]

If this app was removed, I expect shortly to see all apps involving anything gay or lesbian be removed as well. Equality is the name of the game.

You should be expecting the removal of all apps trying CURE religion.
They didn't remove an app because it's religious, they removed it because it's hateful.

I'd hardly call an app trying to cure "the gay" hateful. If they aren't trying to force it on anyone, I see no problem. Would you call an app saying how great it is to be gay and everyone should try it "hateful"?

If you're trying to cure something, you're saying there's something wrong with it and it should be removed. Although that doesn't necessarily imply hate, given the context of this being a Christian group, I think it's fair to say it probably is hate.

 

[William MacKay]

I agree with this app and I am not a christian.

that makes you worse. christians can at least say 'its against our religion', as if it were pacifists. anti-LGBT atheists sicken me more.

 

[Harbinger_]

Is there an 'app' to cure christianity/stupidity too? I'd imagine this fellow wouldn't be very pleased if there was.

Yes because clearly having an interest in religion or spirituality is a disease. Seriously, grow up.

 

[Gigano]

Not a fan of censoring this thing, ridiculous bigotry as it shows.

Is it an utterly pathetic and backwards expression of some sorry view that there could ever be anything wrong with something as utterly harmless as homosexuality? It certainly is.

Is it an expression of a scientifically unsupported and just utterly hopeless conception that ingrained character traits could even be "cured"? Yes to that as well.

The way to engage such backwards views - which aren't hard to refute and ridicule - is to let them come to the surface though, rather than remain under the slimy rock they were born from, then mercilessly tear into them with logic and the equally strong conviction that homosexuality is entirely natural and ethically unproblematic.

Only when they speak up can their words be struck down.

 

[BabyRaptor]

Someone make a "Cure Christianity" app and let's watch how quickly the Religious Right starts howling. That would be an attack on their freedoms! I can just hear Sarah PayMe now.

But us non-heterosexuals...We're not human, the cause of everything bad in the world, ETC...so who cares if you offend us?

 

[T'Generalissimo]

The problem with the suggestion that Apple should have left it up there in the name of freedom of speech and such is that Apple's previous behaviour concerning their app store leaves no room for them to do that without implying that the company approves of this app. In the context of having removed apps for innuendo and other hilariously minor stuff Apple wouldn't really be able to credibly claim that they're taking a neutral, laissez-faire attitude if they didn't remove this; they would just look like they agree with the sentiments of the app.

Now, whether Apple's policy is the right one to take is a different issue entirely, but I don't think they're likely to give up even an inch of control of any of their platforms in any way, it's just not they're style. The app's developers probably should have been aware of that fact and looked for a more open distribution channel.

 

[CM156_v1legacy]

Someone make a "Cure Christianity" app and let's watch how quickly the Religious Right starts howling. That would be an attack on their freedoms! I can just hear Sarah PayMe now.

But us non-heterosexuals...We're not human, the cause of everything bad in the world, ETC...so who cares if you offend us?

As a rather far-right Christian, I would find that rather funny. Why? Because I know that the point of that app was to offend, rather than offer a service. Let?s look at the app in question though. If the point was to offend, if no one became involved with a protest of it, it would not serve its purpose. But if the app makers did truly feel that ?gay? was something you could cure, why do you care?