Are Elves better than Men?
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I'm referring to the books, rather than the game, which I haven't played either.Knight Templar said:
The Witchers are an exclusive order of monster hunters who go through a ritualistic training and induction process which almost kills them but leaves them with supernormal powers.
The Gray Wardens are an exclusive order of monster hunters who go through a ritualistic training and induction process which almost kills them but leaves them with supernormal powers.
The Witchers are in a long period of decline, their numbers are few, they are mistrusted by many and looked down upon by most.
The Gray Wardens are in a long period of decline, their numbers are few, they are mistrusted by many and looked down upon by most.
The nations of the Witcher are riven by internal discord and racial tension, especially towards Elves, and they are threatened by a seemingly invincible army of Evil.
The nation of Ferelden is riven by internal discord and racial tension, especially towards Elves, and they are threatened by a seemingly invincible army of Evil.
The Last Hope for defeating this invincible army of Evil is a new recruit to the Witchers (Ciri) brought in by one of their most highly regarded members (Geralt)
The Last Hope for defeating this invincible army of Evil is a new recruit to the Gray Wardens (You) brought in by one of their most highly regarded members (Duncan)
The elves in tolkien aren't actually physically stronger, men are supposed to have that on them at least. In the book Hurin's Children, the main character is half and half, and is trained by the elves, so he has their speed and skill, but with the superior physicality's of humans, so is better than most of the elves.
mmm, don't recall any reference to them being stronger than humans (in Tolkien's work I mean), in fact I remember a duel in one of their books were a humam literally beat an Elf in hand to hand combat (The Sons of Hurin if memmory serves), and I found many indirect references that though they are inmortal, they envy human destiny when killed, after all humans are free from this world.
Other authors have also depicted the elves as a more advanced race, yet physically weaker (though magically more powerful), at this momment I recall only a series that specifically indicates that elves are stronger (yes, Eragon)
that being said, they are often portrait as a more advanced race, culturally but not technologically (after all they have a huge respect for nature), and with a higher dominion (at least at first) of magic.
geez I'm a nerd
Other authors have also depicted the elves as a more advanced race, yet physically weaker (though magically more powerful), at this momment I recall only a series that specifically indicates that elves are stronger (yes, Eragon)
that being said, they are often portrait as a more advanced race, culturally but not technologically (after all they have a huge respect for nature), and with a higher dominion (at least at first) of magic.
geez I'm a nerd
I hate it when a fantasy uses races just to avoid explanation, "Oh Joredhrl's an elf, we can assume he's fast, strong, beautiful and solemnly deep". When these stereotypes are played with (like in Dragon Age) I can dig it. Humans are so much more diverse and unique, we have women as beautiful as elves, men as short as dwarves and people as ugly and hate filled as orcs.
I'd love to see a fantasy about a short human whose constantly mistaken for a dwarf.
I'd love to see a fantasy about a short human whose constantly mistaken for a dwarf.
Better how are those pointy eared freaks better the only fantasy race that is better than humans are the smart blonds (if you are blond and smart sorry about that)
Tolkien's elves ran away to some other place.
Besides, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVwYKtgFYCc
Besides, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVwYKtgFYCc
And they don't sparkle in sunlight or stare at you like they want to stab you!johnx61 said:
Damn I hate that Meyer *****!
Tolkein was a linguistics professor and his hobby I think he wanted to make the elvish language the most aesthetically pleasing and 'best' language (from other languages he found particular pleasing to the ear including Welsh and Finnish apparently), so I guess the elves are an extension of that aesthetic. So his elves are supposed to be beautiful, and probably 'better' but not so gauche as to go around advertising it either. Most other elves are based on his, usually exact copies.
The dragon age elves give me a sort of Boudicca vibe: I get the feeling of a celtic people being ground down by roman occupiers, 'uncivilised', 'barbarians' in as much as they culturally separate from the dominant culture, and relegated to second-class citizens. In this case, it depends on whether or not you consider the Celts to have been 'better' than the Romans.
The dragon age elves give me a sort of Boudicca vibe: I get the feeling of a celtic people being ground down by roman occupiers, 'uncivilised', 'barbarians' in as much as they culturally separate from the dominant culture, and relegated to second-class citizens. In this case, it depends on whether or not you consider the Celts to have been 'better' than the Romans.
